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Kite for 25kg girl.

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Created by peter2008 > 9 months ago, 4 Sep 2012
peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
4 Sep 2012 5:23PM
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Hi, got a 5.5m kite for my 25kg daughter, but can't keep her on the ground.
She is just too light for it. In less wind it won't fly.

My son is fine on the 5.5 on the sand but Im sure he'll want more in the water.

Question. What size inflato should a 25kg girl be able to learn with?

I did have help from a mate to hold her down, and teach her the very basics, she can fly a kite, I just need one small enough for her weight.

Am wanting to get both my kids up on boards this summer, so far so good. The trainer kite is worn out.

AndyEliotH
QLD, 356 posts
4 Sep 2012 5:28PM
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Ozone Uno 2.5m inflatbale 4 line kite with full depower

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
4 Sep 2012 3:30PM
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ozonekites.com/products/water-kites/uno

AndyEliotH
QLD, 356 posts
4 Sep 2012 5:34PM
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Thats the one

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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4 Sep 2012 3:44PM
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Hi Peter,

You could also look at a 4m Ozone Reo. Ozones are built lightweight and fly in very little wind much better than most other brands that build small kites for nuking winds and heavier riders. The UNO is good but needs a bit of wind to fly and pull a child.

Good luck,

DM

bobajob
QLD, 1535 posts
4 Sep 2012 6:09PM
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I've got a daughter of similar weight and that reo option sounds good. What sort of board would you put the little tackers on?

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
4 Sep 2012 6:17PM
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I like the sound of the reo.

Now where to get my hands on a price?.

Board..... I have I 132 , but need around a 120 for my daughter.
Just got the 132 for free for her to learn with. Had to repair it, but it's a new board.

MagicMike
WA, 210 posts
4 Sep 2012 7:07PM
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Can I just say how lucky your daughter is to have a dad willing to teach her how to kite. When I was that young I would have loved to grow up with the sport.
Ps the small ozones are excellent in the lighter winds,

bjw
QLD, 3686 posts
4 Sep 2012 9:42PM
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That is awesome.

T one
NT, 321 posts
4 Sep 2012 10:08PM
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Good onya for getting them into it early. They're gonna luv ya for it!
Started my young fella off on a 4m DNA when he was around 25 kg, but in light winds up here, Mostly 12-15, it was a very difficult kite to fly. Have since used it in a cyclone and it's fine.... But I digress , got him onto a 7m reb ( again in the light stuff) when he was around 28 kg, and he never looked back. I guess the point of this is, that as DM mentioned, you really want a kite for a light rider, not a heavy wind kite, so yeah, maybe a reo or such, maybe a small reb?
Good luck with it, and keep us posted!
Cheers T

T one
NT, 321 posts
4 Sep 2012 10:14PM
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Oh, and re the board, you need something way smaller. My son is still on his old 115 wipika ($100 in gero, thx Nate)... despite me buying him a shiny new 123...
And he's prob over 40 kg now... Huge difference where very small bones and muscles are concerned...

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
4 Sep 2012 11:16PM
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Cat and reo have very similar power but i reckon the reo is much lighter,also shinn make a grom specific kiteboard called the masterjack check out flyozone.com and shinnworld.com for both,

easto
116 posts
5 Sep 2012 12:08AM
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Try running shorter lines ( a set of 15m,5m and 2m) and if you dont want to cut them down then double them back to your bar...drops half the power and gives you more options works a treat on any 4 line kite.We use this option to teach alot of younger kids.

geloof68
54 posts
5 Sep 2012 4:25AM
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Uno 2.5m and all Ozone 4m inflatables will be perfect (Uno, Reo and Cat) for a 25 kg child. Epic has a kids TT (118*32). You can also buy her a skimboard if you have relatively flat water conditions over there.

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
5 Sep 2012 12:28PM
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peter2008 said...

I like the sound of the reo.

Now where to get my hands on a price?.



Kitepower stock Ozone
www.kitepower.com.au/

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
5 Sep 2012 6:36PM
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easto said...

Try running shorter lines ( a set of 15m,5m and 2m) and if you dont want to cut them down then double them back to your bar...drops half the power and gives you more options works a treat on any 4 line kite.We use this option to teach alot of younger kids.


Handy info.
I have a few sets of short lines.... Thinking.....

Jr Walks
WA, 284 posts
5 Sep 2012 6:46PM
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Just my 2 cents BUT

From my experience Smaller lines = Faster kite = Less time to react to a problem, considering how all kites these days have ridiculous amounts of depower when the safety has been pulled/pushed you can assume that having a slower kite or one with longer lines gives more time to react and get the safety active.

Also get your trainer kite either repaired or purchase a new one. When conditions are too light or too strong they can be on it increasing their skill.

The5MetreKid
QLD, 179 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:56PM
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At 38kg i learnt on a 6m, on standard lines, learnt to fly on a deserted beach and got heaps of hours getting comfortable flying the kite on the land in light winds (sub 15) untill i was ready to go in the water. I learnt on a 132, didnt make to much difference when learning, though at 25kg i would go any bigger than 125... Also i found shortening the chicken loop made a huge difference to the amount of bar through I had and makes it easier to reach OTB depower. Now 55kg and ride a 9m and 7m with a 127 board....

Slashrockson
NSW, 126 posts
6 Sep 2012 9:13AM
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As a matter of interest, whats a good age to get them into it? Got a 9 & 12yo I think they are old enough but having trouble getting them interested. I think too much time waiting for dad to come in when younger might have been the problem, now they don't want to come to the beach if I mention kiting cause its boring!!! Appreciate ideas from other dads.

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
6 Sep 2012 10:11AM
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Slashrockson said...

As a matter of interest, whats a good age to get them into it? Got a 9 & 12yo I think they are old enough but having trouble getting them interested. I think too much time waiting for dad to come in when younger might have been the problem, now they don't want to come to the beach if I mention kiting cause its boring!!! Appreciate ideas from other dads.


... in my opinion, you got to know your kids to know what age you can start them kiting. If, like a lot of kids, they don't see results straight away then they give up too soon, especially if you have a bad day. If you can find what motivates them and work on that. Some kids are a bit more mature than others and can see past the fact that you got to do safety stuff which can be boring to them. Kids don't have patience and just wanna "do it"! Safety is paramount and I was not going to compromise safety at all and if they don't show you how to be safe then they don't go. Its a fine line between 'safety' and fun!

I started to teach my son and he constantly got bored when I harped on about safety. I constantly got, "dad, when can I have fun, not this boring stuff again"! Then one day I yelled at him, one too many times 'cause he wasn't showing me a safe attitude. Because he was compromising a safety issue, I snatched the kite off him and he didn't touch kiting for another year.

Then one day, he came to me quietly and asked to teach him again, and this time he said he'll listen properly when I talk about safety. Now he was self motivated to do it, suddenly he did the right thing and suddenly it was all fun!!!

Like you, all my kids complained the beach was boring as they had to sit and wait for hours while I was off having fun. One day I figured I'd change it.

The first step I found was to peak their interest by taking them body dragging. Leave the board on the beach, give up half an hour of your time and let them hang onto your harnes while you do a bit of body dragging. The fun and laughter, especially if you dive the kite hard and get yanked out of the water. Then, when on the beach you can mention that they can do that too,,,, if they want too! The seed was sewn.

Now my son now is almost worse than I am, every waking moment he's thinking of kiting, constantly talks about it, converstions always leads to how he can tweak his S Bends and "dad, why don't you handle pass, its great fun"! Little sh!t is getting better than me! He got himself a job at a fast food place so he can save money and buy himself new gear!! Motivation!!!

Anyway, hope this helps,

cheers,

Robbie

Kym1
QLD, 29 posts
6 Sep 2012 5:47PM
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What about weights in her harness? maybe that's a stupid idea, but probably cheaper than a new kite every year whilst she's growing.

Slashrockson
NSW, 126 posts
6 Sep 2012 8:17PM
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Good one Puetz, keep it safe and make it FUN sounds like the way to go. And bodydragging behind me sounds like a good starting point. As the wife says I need to spend more quality time with them so if I can get them hooked I can spend some real quality 'air' time with them.
The only one who'll think its boring then is wifey.

Thanks for the tip.

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
7 Sep 2012 8:10AM
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I've got no problem with them being motivated, it's just a case of having the range of equipment to enable them to get out flying, like me, in almost any conditions.

Now having a second car, and the kids being at an age that I can safely let them on the beach without me, even though we use beaches that are unlucky to see more than 5 people a day, we still have our kids safety in mind. And we just would not go out on the water and leave the kids on the beach alone.

Weights in the harness....... Ummmm, not even I would do that, sorry.

Anywho.... Have a lead on a 4m ozone cat. Will see how it pans out.

eppo
WA, 9713 posts
7 Sep 2012 7:35AM
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Puetz said...

Slashrockson said...

As a matter of interest, whats a good age to get them into it? Got a 9 & 12yo I think they are old enough but having trouble getting them interested. I think too much time waiting for dad to come in when younger might have been the problem, now they don't want to come to the beach if I mention kiting cause its boring!!! Appreciate ideas from other dads.


... in my opinion, you got to know your kids to know what age you can start them kiting. If, like a lot of kids, they don't see results straight away then they give up too soon, especially if you have a bad day. If you can find what motivates them and work on that. Some kids are a bit more mature than others and can see past the fact that you got to do safety stuff which can be boring to them. Kids don't have patience and just wanna "do it"! Safety is paramount and I was not going to compromise safety at all and if they don't show you how to be safe then they don't go. Its a fine line between 'safety' and fun!

I started to teach my son and he constantly got bored when I harped on about safety. I constantly got, "dad, when can I have fun, not this boring stuff again"! Then one day I yelled at him, one too many times 'cause he wasn't showing me a safe attitude. Because he was compromising a safety issue, I snatched the kite off him and he didn't touch kiting for another year.

Then one day, he came to me quietly and asked to teach him again, and this time he said he'll listen properly when I talk about safety. Now he was self motivated to do it, suddenly he did the right thing and suddenly it was all fun!!!

Like you, all my kids complained the beach was boring as they had to sit and wait for hours while I was off having fun. One day I figured I'd change it.

The first step I found was to peak their interest by taking them body dragging. Leave the board on the beach, give up half an hour of your time and let them hang onto your harnes while you do a bit of body dragging. The fun and laughter, especially if you dive the kite hard and get yanked out of the water. Then, when on the beach you can mention that they can do that too,,,, if they want too! The seed was sewn.

Now my son now is almost worse than I am, every waking moment he's thinking of kiting, constantly talks about it, converstions always leads to how he can tweak his S Bends and "dad, why don't you handle pass, its great fun"! Little sh!t is getting better than me! He got himself a job at a fast food place so he can save money and buy himself new gear!! Motivation!!!

Anyway, hope this helps,

cheers,

Robbie







And is pretty good at it already might I add. Wish it was around when I was his age. Ho hum. Well done Robbie.

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:30AM
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Yeah you can't rush kids these days.

When my parents wanted me to do something I had no choice.
Pitty it was never surfing, kiting, sailing, etc etc.

I had to wait until I could pay for myself to get into something, even had to buy my own two wheeled transport for school.
We soon had a track to school with jumps and big hills all worked out, after school was mostly uphill.

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:54AM
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eppo said...

Puetz said...

Slashrockson said...

As a matter of interest, whats a good age to get them into it? Got a 9 & 12yo I think they are old enough but having trouble getting them interested. I think too much time waiting for dad to come in when younger might have been the problem, now they don't want to come to the beach if I mention kiting cause its boring!!! Appreciate ideas from other dads.


...
Now my son now is almost worse than I am, every waking moment he's thinking of kiting, constantly talks about it, converstions always leads to how he can tweak his S Bends and "dad, why don't you handle pass, its great fun"! Little sh!t is getting better than me! He got himself a job at a fast food place so he can save money and buy himself new gear!! Motivation!!!

Anyway, hope this helps,

cheers,

Robbie







And is pretty good at it already might I add. Wish it was around when I was his age. Ho hum. Well done Robbie.




... cheers Eppo!

My parents gave me sailing when I was a kid, we ended up living on a yacht for 5 years cruising around Australia in my teen years. I loved it, and I still thank my parents almost daily for giving me such a cool life. I always hoped I could give my kids something like that and as it turned out, I gave them kiting. Such a cool thing to share with them.

cheers for now,

Robbie

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
7 Sep 2012 11:18AM
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Slashrockson said...

Good one Puetz, keep it safe and make it FUN sounds like the way to go. And bodydragging behind me sounds like a good starting point. As the wife says I need to spend more quality time with them so if I can get them hooked I can spend some real quality 'air' time with them.
The only one who'll think its boring then is wifey.

Thanks for the tip.


... take the missus for a body drag too!!! Mind you, to get the missus into kiting is a waaaaay harder undertaking and you have to have the patiences of a saint to come out the other end without getting a divorce.

Slowly and steadily is the key. And just like the kids, if they see results, have good days, they want to do it again and again.

Then one day you find out she's ordered another kite without you knowing and its like heaven has opended up, now you don't have to hide your new gear from anyone anymore. If you get the right gear you extend your quiver so when the next bad arse front and storms comes through, you got the right gear.

My 2 cent advise is get something that not only the kids or the missus can use but so can you. If its too kid specific, it might not suit you at all. Then it becomes useful to you, and if they give up, its still ok to hang onto it.

Oh, another tip, helmet and boyancy vest. Get them first so the wife can see you taking charge of safety and she won't give you grief. Plus the kids can bling them up and make it their own and being cool makes them just that little bit more motivated to give it a good go.

cheers,

Robbie

westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:08AM
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Kym1 said...

What about weights in her harness? maybe that's a stupid idea, but probably cheaper than a new kite every year whilst she's growing.


Probably need to think about that one again mate. Reducing the ability to float/swim is not the best idea I think. Especially for a 25 Kg kid!

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
7 Sep 2012 2:00PM
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Can anyone offer a comment on a 2008 4m switchblade please.
Good for light weight, or high wind?

peter2008
QLD, 40 posts
7 Sep 2012 11:02PM
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Options I have found......

2009 4m cabrinha switchblade. New, complete. 500
2010 4m ozone catalyst near new, complete. 550
2011 4m core riot, used 400 + bar

What are your thoughts? Which is the better for a lighter rider?



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