So a hypothetical here.
Im a newbie and i live in altona. I wander down to KSS my local kite shop and ask for some lessons. Where are my lessons going to be held? Altona beach? Am I insured whilst undertaking the lessons? (or do i need my own insurance?) Is a permit or such required to conduct a lesson in a public place?
Im just curious, as a frequent kiter at Altona i have witnessed or heard about from friends many instances of injuries - ambulances, kites over lines - power outs, flouting of the keeping clear of the pier rule etc etc etc, this the usual, and yes its concerning, but now a kite school is going to dip in as well?
Now not saying that this (StKilda in the West) is going to make it worse, maybe we will have a bunch of well informed locals who are interested in playing by the rules to keep access.
But realistically, when the season is on, the lessons will be pumped out in any conditions and the required attention to details will slide. More incidents will be caused either directly - during in lessons or indirectly - after lessons when all the fresh learners come to the beach they know. Disputing this futile, its fact, heaps of new learners into an already crowded area with a known sketchy launch, its going to happen.
A little bird told me there might be 9 instructors ready to go.... (9 x 6 days per week x 4 lessons per day = 216 lessons per week, say 4 lessons per newbie, thats 50 newies per week - must be totally wrong seems like way to many, but i have been wrong before ;-)
Any comments?
If you have an issue with a business take it up with them personally rather than gobbing off on a public forum like a nob. Sounds like your just bitching, someone call the WAAMBULANCE.
Just saw the post.
Ok first of all we don't teach in Altona.
We want to get a permit but not in the location you kite at, in fact way down the other end in the kite zoned area. We dont do massive runs of students like you have seen in other locations.
Injuries happen in sports but i think we can reduce them if people are taught properly and we dont teach in winds above 25knots. So we teach in 15-25knots and if the wind is unpredictable we cancel the lessons.
Yes of course we have insurance, we use the same insurance company that quite a few schools use in Australia.
Do you ride the Naish Torch? Blue/black? Please don't kite in the area past Romwai st near the pier, its not a launch or landing zone. There is a bin and a seat go south of that point if thats you.
Anyway you are more than welcome to come around to the shop and ask more questions if needed.
Yes your calculations are way out, we did 4 students today and 2 of them are going back overseas in a week but loved the lessons and got up on the board!
Owned by the facts, once again. Its a pitty how the actual facts get in the way of a good WAAAAAAAAA...............get a life.
Well worth the mention manic skier! This issue needed to be brought to attention if there are to be lessons anywhere around Altona.
No they don't , does this need to be in another language
Kss do not teach in Altona at all not even Altona meadows , they have to travel to surrounding beaches
no ,what they said is they dont have permission to teach at altona , they teach at other beaches not controlled by altona council .
why not pop in the shop and have a chat if your that concerned , and not take second hand wrong information , then twist it to use on the forum
one , why assume anything ? go and ask kss if it bothers you that much
two , i dont work for kss , so dont assume that either
three , do you have some hidden motive behind this thread ,
we have waited for so long to have a shop in altona , so why start this thread and try to cause trouble
..and that will about do. 
Sorry, these forums are not the place to be having 'kangaroo courts' about people or businesses.
manicskier - please PM or call Steve directly on 0405 626 318 -- or contact details via his website.
Hope it all pans out well for you.
Apologies, topic locked.
