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Created by alexglasso87 > 9 months ago, 6 Nov 2008
alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
6 Nov 2008 2:02AM
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So I have an innovation which i want to prototype

Any ideas of Firms that may concentrate on wind sport product design?

Or anyone studying design at uni?


Cheers.

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
6 Nov 2008 9:04AM
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Best take your inovation to America. No one home here.

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
6 Nov 2008 9:10AM
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I'm studying Industrial Design at UNI 3rd year. Do some detailed drawings and then approach one of the kiteboarding companies. I can do 3d CAD modeling as well as rapid prototyping if need be.

alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
6 Nov 2008 10:05AM
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KIT33R said...

Best take your inovation to America. No one home here.


would love to do that but being a uni student just doesnt fund me, kinda sucks but.

alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
6 Nov 2008 10:06AM
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lex123 said...

I'm studying Industrial Design at UNI 3rd year. Do some detailed drawings and then approach one of the kiteboarding companies. I can do 3d CAD modeling as well as rapid prototyping if need be.


ok so where are yo based?

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
6 Nov 2008 11:57AM
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alexglasso87 said...

KIT33R said...

Best take your inovation to America. No one home here.


would love to do that but being a uni student just doesnt fund me, kinda sucks but.


In that case. If your inovation is any good, get a provisional patent on it ASAP. It is worthless unless patented. If you can't afford this, team up with someone with cash (friends, fools, family). Universities have ways and means of taking inovation to market as well.

The Aus. government has departments that help new business get off the ground
www.ausicom.com/ . Also Aus Industry, especially if there is export potential.


How do I know. I'm going down this road at the moment (10 years on). It's not easy.

alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
6 Nov 2008 11:07AM
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KIT33R said...

alexglasso87 said...

KIT33R said...

Best take your inovation to America. No one home here.


would love to do that but being a uni student just doesnt fund me, kinda sucks but.


In that case. If your inovation is any good, get a provisional patent on it ASAP. It is worthless unless patented. If you can't afford this, team up with someone with cash (friends, fools, family). Universities have ways and means of taking inovation to market as well.

The Aus. government has departments that help new business get off the ground
www.ausicom.com/ . Also Aus Industry, especially if there is export potential.


How do I know. I'm going down this road at the moment (10 years on). It's not easy.



thanks for your help. 10years hey. lets hope were not going down the same innovative path ;)

thanks for your help

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
6 Nov 2008 12:53PM
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I'm based in sydney, attending UWS. Patents are a geat idea or at least IP. Check your idea against existing patents before you attempt to go any further with it.

alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
6 Nov 2008 1:41PM
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lex123 said...

I'm based in sydney, attending UWS. Patents are a geat idea or at least IP. Check your idea against existing patents before you attempt to go any further with it.


are patents very expensive

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
6 Nov 2008 3:43PM
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Are patents expensive? Simple answer "Yes". Patent attorneys add significantly to the cost as well. It all depends where you want to patent your invention. Just for Australia - not to costly. You have to pay per country (EU is now one country thankfully). World wide big $$. Provisionals are a start and are good for a couple of years before the big costs come in ie tens of thousands of dollars. Provisional give you time to establish backers and raise venture capital.

You have to way up how much your invention is eventually worth compared to what it will cost to get to a worldwide market.

It may not be worth going down the patent line for a small item that has a limited market but if you have something that everyone (10 million people) will want and you can make it for $10 each then it is worth persueing.

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
6 Nov 2008 4:09PM
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As i said at the start. your best bet would actually be just geting some IP on your design and then approching a kiteboarding company to financially back it. Of course this will mean that they will own the patent on the design but im sure if they like it they will be more than willing to pay for it. We have the same problems entering design competitions, we spend all year producing a product to have it freely advertised as part of the competition for everyone else to ripoff. Us UNI students are too poor to afford welll pretty much anything. Getting proper protection on a design would mean selling my car and kites.

alexglasso87
QLD, 10 posts
7 Nov 2008 12:24PM
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lex123 said...

As i said at the start. your best bet would actually be just geting some IP on your design and then approching a kiteboarding company to financially back it. Of course this will mean that they will own the patent on the design but im sure if they like it they will be more than willing to pay for it. We have the same problems entering design competitions, we spend all year producing a product to have it freely advertised as part of the competition for everyone else to ripoff. Us UNI students are too poor to afford welll pretty much anything. Getting proper protection on a design would mean selling my car and kites.


haha that is so true.
Well i emailed cabrinha and they replied with asking me to send through information on it and if they like it they will contact me directly, is this a risk (take it it is but guess its the only real way for me to go about it. think i mite just do it cause im going to bali in a week and cash is all into that.

Thanx for all your help guys.

Alex

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
7 Nov 2008 2:54PM
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Once you disclose your inovation to others it is very difficult clain ownership of it. Beware, sharks are not only in the water.

richswing
WA, 724 posts
7 Nov 2008 2:00PM
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Hey Guys,

Just out of curiosity, what is Design / Industrial Design? What type of subjects,etc are done? How many years, etc?

My career is painfully problematic, always have problems and I am over it now.

I have kinda had enough of what I do and for a couple of years have been looking for an alternative - I would love to become a kite hobo but don't think that would support my family and I wouldn't be able to afford new gear even though I can't now.

Cheers
Rich

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
7 Nov 2008 6:03PM
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richswing said...

Hey Guys,

Just out of curiosity, what is Design / Industrial Design? What type of subjects,etc are done? How many years, etc?

My career is painfully problematic, always have problems and I am over it now.

I have kinda had enough of what I do and for a couple of years have been looking for an alternative - I would love to become a kite hobo but don't think that would support my family and I wouldn't be able to afford new gear even though I can't now.

Cheers
Rich


Industrial design is Product design mate. Covers physical products through to designing systems.

As far as subjects go well um think a mix between engineering and design. We do subjects sucha s maths, material science etc as well as design Studio's and reasearch subjects which are aesthetics and target market based.
Then we also have to do a number of industrial graphics courses to cover CAD work which is a must in todays industry.

My degreee is a 4 year, 3 years to get a deg in design and technology + 1 year to do either honours or course work to get an Industrial Design degree.



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