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How to make kiting safer?

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Created by getfunky > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2008
Slack
WA, 685 posts
4 Jul 2008 2:47PM
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I think wearing a helmet and vest is a good idea.

When I come off in the surf and I am closer to the shore than my board I am always wary of a wave picking it up and hurling it at me.

I wear them, I like them, but I wouldn't want someone telling me I have to.

mattyjee
WA, 575 posts
4 Jul 2008 3:04PM
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I know of one way to stop getting hurt kiting.

It's also coincidentally the only known prevention for all types of cancer...

Go kill yourself!

(I think i'll accept the risks)

PS. Reli, did you know that Lawn Bowls has the highest death rate of any sport...

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
4 Jul 2008 5:06PM
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Slack said...



When I come off in the surf and I am closer to the shore than my board I am always wary of a wave picking it up and hurling it at me.


Happened to me twice now. left a nasty gash in my wetsuit. Thankgod it wasnt my skin.

mini_kiter_josh
QLD, 29 posts
4 Jul 2008 5:44PM
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poor relative said...

I propose we disband our wetsuits kite pants hats sun screen and concrete and don these




I Propose we just make funky wear that.!! Hopefully it will stop him typing such nonsense!!!

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
4 Jul 2008 3:56PM
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Yeh - I should have clarified that I meant 4 line C kites not greater de-power hybrids/bows etc.

Now - as I said - the practicalities of creating let alone implimenting rules/laws etc are a minefield for sure. No-one (yes, myself included) wants to see them. Still from the behaviour that is becoming more prevalent, (and the lowly IQs shown here at SB) it is going to get more crowded, more dangerous, more selfish and (possibly) become essential..

Does anyone think the rules around the Lucky Bay area are unessesary or wrong? Do you think 100% self-regulation would suffice? Doubt it mateee.

As for helmets. I don't fancy having someone wiping my butt (not even you fat boy) for the rest of my life, or losing my hearing so I wear one. I would love to be less restricted and have ridden that way on rare occasions (like the time I got my Gath ripped clean-off after a bad kiteloop!!), and enjoyed it, but make that call for myself.

Hands up who wears no helmet on a motorbike? Relly may just be keen for wiping duty if needed...After getting cleaned up (twice) by idiot tin tops I was eternally grateful to be wearing a full-face number I can tell ya...


OK, hopefully some folks have had their purge for the day. I was not entirely serious about all the points here and deliberatly threw out a couple of cats to possibly get some discussion ("How does that work agian??" say most SB users) and fully expected lots of behind LCD heroes to flex their dual-core muscles. But seriously hardly anyone has offered any ideas or even argument. HTFU is not an argument BTW - twit.


Paul - top marks for getting half an argument together, great improvement. Keep trying you will get there with some extra tutoring.. Awww - now don't get all un-HTFU and cranky on me mateee... all sh!t n giggles isn't it?

Relly... sigh... Relly, I would be severely calloused on my two typing fingers by the time I even scratched the surface of your many, many, obvious personality afflictions that require you to grab for as much cheap, and purile attention as you can every single day... Keep at it mate... Hey, I mean heaps of people think Rove is sharp and funny, so you are playing to a welcome audience mate.. If you ever do think of something constructive, don't go all shy on us though.. I won't be holding my breath though...


Now to all those displaying an awe insipring amount of creativity in the HTFU stakes.. can I use that some time? I mean fresh new ideas like that don't come along every day now.... Oh like what-everrrr... yes fresh and new awright...

Being soft (as oposed to hardening up) BTW is joining the pack mentality, having no original thoughts of your own and being a poossy whipped little lick-spittle follower.. Wake up fools, I believe your drivers license alledges you to be adults...

Yaaawwwnnn wake me up when you make it double IQ points or can hold a non-abusive (even for novelty value), relatively intelligent (not neccesarily agreeing with me mind you) or even partially sensible conversation...

Until then ride safe all... unless you are some of the above, in that case "No brain, no pain"

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
4 Jul 2008 3:59PM
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Might go have a nice cammomile tea and wrap up in that spunky (and funky) bubble wrap now...

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
4 Jul 2008 4:22PM
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We come from different worlds Funkster

If you notice i don't need to insult you or get personal or cast aspersions on your character i just play.

Enjoy your tea.

laurie
WA, 3858 posts
4 Jul 2008 4:39PM
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Geeze .. people are getting a bit tense in here, usually it happens around a full moon, this time it's the new moon. Variety is good.

Summers is getting closer every day!

teabagg
NSW, 141 posts
4 Jul 2008 6:41PM
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getfunky said...

Might go have a nice cammomile tea and wrap up in that spunky (and funky) bubble wrap now...


should be an easy fit now with that tail now between your legs.... oh yeah, HTFU!

trevor1
WA, 598 posts
4 Jul 2008 4:54PM
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poor relative said...

We come from different worlds Funkster

If you notice i don't need to insult you or get personal or cast aspersions on your character i just play.

Enjoy your tea.



Um, er, I did notice in one post you called him "Funkwit". Play on words yes (and possibly correct - I don't know), but I would find that personally insulting.

trevor1
WA, 598 posts
4 Jul 2008 4:56PM
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poor relative said...

The point i am making funkwit is kiting will never be 100% safe ever
Thats what makes it exciting the fact that it can be unpredictable

If it was predictable and fully safe then why bother might as well play bowls or ping pong


(I have a thing about pots and kettles today)

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
4 Jul 2008 7:24PM
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laurie said...

Geeze .. people are getting a bit tense in here, usually it happens around a full moon, this time it's the new moon. Variety is good.

Summers is getting closer every day!


I was thinking it was some sort of Friday madness, I also noticed more people than usual driving erratically on Perth roads today.

RayQ
WA, 635 posts
4 Jul 2008 5:38PM
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I would like to suggest all Seabreeze forum vistitors should wear a helmet and leash while hammering away at the keyboard.

Sounds like more potential danger due to agro in off season that on the water.

junglist
VIC, 701 posts
4 Jul 2008 7:55PM
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laurie said...

Geeze .. people are getting a bit tense in here, usually it happens around a full moon, this time it's the new moon.


The decorators are in. Time for a few glasses of cranberry juice.





poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
4 Jul 2008 6:17PM
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trevor1 said...

poor relative said...

We come from different worlds Funkster

If you notice i don't need to insult you or get personal or cast aspersions on your character i just play.

Enjoy your tea.



Um, er, I did notice in one post you called him "Funkwit". Play on words yes (and possibly correct - I don't know), but I would find that personally insulting.



Sorry Funkster

Damo
WA, 641 posts
4 Jul 2008 6:42PM
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walshd said...



I think the best policy here is just to be friendly, watch out for each other and help launch and land other people's kites and they will do the same for you one day.
Keep an eye out for learners or newbies at your spot. Give them advice where needed and alway give someone a hand if they are in a spot of bother.
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i think you hit the nail on the head there walshed. too offten when you see someone doing something stupid at the beach you will also see a group of kiters standing around watching them do it bitching and jokeing about how stupid people can be. in my experience most people only do stupid things on the beach because they dont know any better and it only takes 5 mins of your time to go down and say hi and explain a better way of doing it. if the more experienced kiters setped up and shared more of thier experience with the noobs then the sport would be alot better off. i know alot of guys and galls do it already and a big upps to them but i think there needs to be more of it.

i admit that there will be people every now and again (not mentioning any funky names) that are too arrogant to take a hint and will always think that they know better than everyone els even with thier limmited experience so you cant win all the time but give it a shot anyway. you never know you might even end up makeing friends with them

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
4 Jul 2008 8:39PM
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Hey Damo, nice to hear you got some wind...........man, Perth is depressing at the mom. Everyone bitchen as it is cold, dark and no friggen wind.

Enjoy

echostorm
QLD, 1245 posts
4 Jul 2008 10:46PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Relo you freaking crack me up mate. What sites are you browsing to find those photos in the first place lol.

I think the biggest thing is to know your gear.
Know how your safety works blindfolded while you are scratching your butt and eating a bananna. When I start on a different setup, I religoulsy go over all the safety releases several times seeing how quick I can hit them.

Always ride to your ability

Stay away from the public

Impact Vest

Know how to read the ocean and not panic when you are stuck out the back in big swell

Learn basic handsignals

Look before you turn

Look before you jump

Dont jump in the shallows

Dont jump near objects

Dont jump near kiters

Dont wear a board leash

Dont be a hero in front of beachgoers by spraying them or showing how good you are at dodging swimmers

Double check for surfers when tacking towards the beach (they can sometimes be hidden behind waves)

Ride with a group

Watch out for each other


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Jimmyz
NSW, 446 posts
4 Jul 2008 11:24PM
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I think people are just going mad because of the lack of good wind. I wake up almost every morning hoping for a warm NE to come over Narra so I can kite til the sun sets at 8pm. I miss them so much .

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
4 Jul 2008 9:29PM
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Echostorm I agree with you 100%.
It should all come down to rider discretion.
And none of that needs policing.

I think a compressed version of that would be the PERFECT sign to have at a few beaches.
Gruezi, if your looking for a sign, it needs nothing more than what echostorm wrote. Except maybe something about chatting to the local crew to see if there are any unusual rules.

I was out in fun (big waves and huge wind) conditions a while back, and came off in front of the biggest wave I've faced. Not panicking is a good one. Deep breath, check kite position, and dive dive dive.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
4 Jul 2008 9:42PM
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Go fellas go, thanks Eco, great stuff....would certainly fit on a piece of paper to start.

Y'all want signs...I personally hate signs as they are a kiting hazard and ugly to boot, but they have their place....depends on who pays and maintains them.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
5 Jul 2008 12:29AM
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I think the biggest thing is to know your gear.(and sleep with it)[/u] Know how your safety works blindfolded while you are scratching your butt and eating a bananna. (whaaaat?)When I start on a different setup, I religoulsy go over all the safety releases several times seeing how quick I can hit them.(poor buggers what did they do to deserve that )

Always ride to your ability (if you don't have any at least wear boardies over your wettie)

Stay away from the public (particularly if you are hopeless and don't want to look like a kook)

Impact Vest ( under your rashie to make you look muscly)

Know how to read the ocean and not panic when you are stuck out the back in big swell ( or if you can't make sure you read a good book)

Learn basic handsignals ( middle finger upwards as you jump over a poleboarder)

Look before you turn ( there might be someone watching you ,make sure its a good one)

Look before you jump ( same as above)

Dont jump in the shallows ( your face headplanted in the mud with your arse in the air isn't a good look whan you stuff up)

Dont jump near objects ( jump on them )

Dont jump near kiters ( they'll punch your lights out )

Dont wear a board leash 9(well thats bloody obvious isn't it )

Dont be a hero in front of beachgoers by spraying them or showing how good you are at dodging swimmers ( why not?at least you didn't hit them))

Double check for surfers when tacking towards the beach (they can sometimes be hidden behind waves) and make sure you spray them when you find them ,it'll really piss em off )

Ride with a group ( you can compare notes on how cool your moves were at the end of the session)

Watch out for each other ( particularly when one of those surfers are coming up to deck ya)


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hilly
WA, 7857 posts
4 Jul 2008 10:49PM
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Wear your underpants uh boardshorts over your wettie

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
5 Jul 2008 10:58AM
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getfunky said...

Yeh - I should have clarified that I meant 4 line C kites not greater de-power hybrids/bows etc.

Now - as I said - the practicalities of creating let alone implimenting rules/laws etc are a minefield for sure. No-one (yes, myself included) wants to see them. Still from the behaviour that is becoming more prevalent, (and the lowly IQs shown here at SB) it is going to get more crowded, more dangerous, more selfish and (possibly) become essential..

Does anyone think the rules around the Lucky Bay area are unessesary or wrong? Do you think 100% self-regulation would suffice? Doubt it mateee.

As for helmets. I don't fancy having someone wiping my butt (not even you fat boy) for the rest of my life, or losing my hearing so I wear one. I would love to be less restricted and have ridden that way on rare occasions (like the time I got my Gath ripped clean-off after a bad kiteloop!!), and enjoyed it, but make that call for myself.

Hands up who wears no helmet on a motorbike? Relly may just be keen for wiping duty if needed...After getting cleaned up (twice) by idiot tin tops I was eternally grateful to be wearing a full-face number I can tell ya...


OK, hopefully some folks have had their purge for the day. I was not entirely serious about all the points here and deliberatly threw out a couple of cats to possibly get some discussion ("How does that work agian??" say most SB users) and fully expected lots of behind LCD heroes to flex their dual-core muscles. But seriously hardly anyone has offered any ideas or even argument. HTFU is not an argument BTW - twit.


Paul - top marks for getting half an argument together, great improvement. Keep trying you will get there with some extra tutoring.. Awww - now don't get all un-HTFU and cranky on me mateee... all sh!t n giggles isn't it?

Relly... sigh... Relly, I would be severely calloused on my two typing fingers by the time I even scratched the surface of your many, many, obvious personality afflictions that require you to grab for as much cheap, and purile attention as you can every single day... Keep at it mate... Hey, I mean heaps of people think Rove is sharp and funny, so you are playing to a welcome audience mate.. If you ever do think of something constructive, don't go all shy on us though.. I won't be holding my breath though...


Now to all those displaying an awe insipring amount of creativity in the HTFU stakes.. can I use that some time? I mean fresh new ideas like that don't come along every day now.... Oh like what-everrrr... yes fresh and new awright...

Being soft (as oposed to hardening up) BTW is joining the pack mentality, having no original thoughts of your own and being a poossy whipped little lick-spittle follower.. Wake up fools, I believe your drivers license alledges you to be adults...

Yaaawwwnnn wake me up when you make it double IQ points or can hold a non-abusive (even for novelty value), relatively intelligent (not neccesarily agreeing with me mind you) or even partially sensible conversation...

Until then ride safe all... unless you are some of the above, in that case "No brain, no pain"


So, you finally admit that your an idiot, but try and make yourself feel better by calling everyone else idiots. You must really make your parents proud, you are one very special indvidual.

Coose
VIC, 229 posts
5 Jul 2008 11:18AM
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yeah biggest Douche in the universe

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1896 posts
5 Jul 2008 10:01AM
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Hey Funkstar

In Perth - the W.A.K.S.A are apparently having 'discussions with local Councils due to indivdual poor expressions of ability...

How about a simplified sign at the least that says...

..................NEW TO KITEBOARDING ?....................

...Please ask experieced kiters for 'FRIENDLY' advice...
........... on setup and help for safe Launching......

The word friendly (yes all you cut throat backstabin pirate forum writers )will make you people more approachable, if you are tooo shyyy or just a snob

If anyone has ever gotten into a bit of bother, its nice to know - that person may just be the one who returns the favour..

O.k next Pirate please

ps. If your in Perth, get off this forum - WE GOT WIND

iandvnt
QLD, 581 posts
6 Jul 2008 6:37PM
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If kiting was safe i would not be doing it, it would be boring.

Someone hurting someone else by their actions is a big deal and should be dealt with harsh consequences, but hurting yourself - wheres the problem.

What is it going to go the way of Calfornia where a 30 year old skateboarder can be fined $150 US for not wearing elbow pads - great!

This website has been invaded by safety guy.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
6 Jul 2008 6:02PM
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Waking up in the morning is unsafe....and golfers should wear helmets.

Firiejason
SA, 69 posts
6 Jul 2008 8:00PM
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echostorm said...

Learn basic handsignals


Are there kite specific hand signals that are known across Australia?

Can anyone enlighten me cos I can't say I know any?



Manny
WA, 89 posts
6 Jul 2008 6:50PM
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Alot of the ideas are pretty good. Bringing these points up at least gets us thinking and we realise that alot of the problems we see with kiteboarding isn`t just something that we experience at our local spot but is wide spread.
Personally I think a very goog idea to start off with is the use of signs on or at entry to beaches. Especially the beaches that get crowded in summer by every day beach users (swimmers etc). At least these signs give the public and life guards back up to tell off the problem kiters. The point brought up earlier that we should be much more pro active at our local kite spots is very good. And this could be done diplomaticaly so that it doesn`t look like the locals are being aggresive. A simple `G`day mate, saw you get into a bit of trouble there. You know the locals (or better still blame the poleis) don`t really like that kind of stuff round here.` You get my point?
I`ve just started using the spot at Safety Bay (WA) and have found the kiteboarders to be a friendly bunch right from the start, always have time for a chat and advice. So if one of them came up to me to say I`ve done something not acceptable I wouldn`t be offended. Actually I`d appreciate it cause I`d feel that they don`t mind me using the spot but just want things safe for all of us.
At the end of the day, kiteboarding is fun for most of us because it is extreme and dangerouse. But that doesn`t mean it should be extreme and dangerous for the people around us. Nothing wrong with trying the cazy tricks and jumps that will make you crash like an out of control racing car, but just be aware of your surroundings. And look out for each other.



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