I think wearing a helmet and vest is a good idea.
When I come off in the surf and I am closer to the shore than my board I am always wary of a wave picking it up and hurling it at me.
I wear them, I like them, but I wouldn't want someone telling me I have to.
I know of one way to stop getting hurt kiting.
It's also coincidentally the only known prevention for all types of cancer...
Go kill yourself!
(I think i'll accept the risks) ![]()
PS. Reli, did you know that Lawn Bowls has the highest death rate of any sport...
Yeh - I should have clarified that I meant 4 line C kites not greater de-power hybrids/bows etc.
Now - as I said - the practicalities of creating let alone implimenting rules/laws etc are a minefield for sure. No-one (yes, myself included) wants to see them. Still from the behaviour that is becoming more prevalent, (and the lowly IQs shown here at SB) it is going to get more crowded, more dangerous, more selfish and (possibly) become essential..
Does anyone think the rules around the Lucky Bay area are unessesary or wrong? Do you think 100% self-regulation would suffice? Doubt it mateee.
As for helmets. I don't fancy having someone wiping my butt (not even you fat boy) for the rest of my life, or losing my hearing so I wear one. I would love to be less restricted and have ridden that way on rare occasions (like the time I got my Gath ripped clean-off after a bad kiteloop!!), and enjoyed it, but make that call for myself.
Hands up who wears no helmet on a motorbike? Relly may just be keen for wiping duty if needed...After getting cleaned up (twice) by idiot tin tops I was eternally grateful to be wearing a full-face number I can tell ya...
OK, hopefully some folks have had their purge for the day. I was not entirely serious about all the points here and deliberatly threw out a couple of cats to possibly get some discussion ("How does that work agian??" say most SB users) and fully expected lots of behind LCD heroes to flex their dual-core muscles. But seriously hardly anyone has offered any ideas or even argument. HTFU is not an argument BTW - twit.
Paul - top marks for getting half an argument together, great improvement. Keep trying you will get there with some extra tutoring..
Awww - now don't get all un-HTFU and cranky on me mateee... all sh!t n giggles isn't it?
Relly... sigh... Relly, I would be severely calloused on my two typing fingers by the time I even scratched the surface of your many, many, obvious personality afflictions that require you to grab for as much cheap, and purile attention as you can every single day... Keep at it mate... Hey, I mean heaps of people think Rove is sharp and funny, so you are playing to a welcome audience mate.. If you ever do think of something constructive, don't go all shy on us though.. I won't be holding my breath though...![]()
Now to all those displaying an awe insipring amount of creativity in the HTFU stakes.. can I use that some time? I mean fresh new ideas like that don't come along every day now.... Oh like what-everrrr... yes fresh and new awright...
Being soft (as oposed to hardening up) BTW is joining the pack mentality, having no original thoughts of your own and being a poossy whipped little lick-spittle follower.. Wake up fools, I believe your drivers license alledges you to be adults...
Yaaawwwnnn wake me up when you make it double IQ points or can hold a non-abusive (even for novelty value), relatively intelligent (not neccesarily agreeing with me mind you) or even partially sensible conversation...![]()
Until then ride safe all... unless you are some of the above, in that case "No brain, no pain"
We come from different worlds Funkster
If you notice i don't need to insult you or get personal or cast aspersions on your character i just play.
Enjoy your tea.![]()
Geeze .. people are getting a bit tense in here, usually it happens around a full moon, this time it's the new moon. Variety is good.
Summers is getting closer every day! ![]()
I would like to suggest all Seabreeze forum vistitors should wear a helmet and leash while hammering away at the keyboard.
Sounds like more potential danger due to agro in off season that on the water.
Hey Damo, nice to hear you got some wind...........man, Perth is depressing at the mom. Everyone bitchen as it is cold, dark and no friggen wind.
Enjoy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Relo you freaking crack me up mate. What sites are you browsing to find those photos in the first place lol.![]()
I think the biggest thing is to know your gear. Know how your safety works blindfolded while you are scratching your butt and eating a bananna. When I start on a different setup, I religoulsy go over all the safety releases several times seeing how quick I can hit them.
Always ride to your ability
Stay away from the public
Impact Vest
Know how to read the ocean and not panic when you are stuck out the back in big swell
Learn basic handsignals
Look before you turn
Look before you jump
Dont jump in the shallows
Dont jump near objects
Dont jump near kiters
Dont wear a board leash
Dont be a hero in front of beachgoers by spraying them or showing how good you are at dodging swimmers
Double check for surfers when tacking towards the beach (they can sometimes be hidden behind waves)
Ride with a group
Watch out for each other
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I think people are just going mad because of the lack of good wind. I wake up almost every morning hoping for a warm NE to come over Narra so I can kite til the sun sets at 8pm. I miss them so much
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Echostorm I agree with you 100%.
It should all come down to rider discretion.
And none of that needs policing.
I think a compressed version of that would be the PERFECT sign to have at a few beaches.
Gruezi, if your looking for a sign, it needs nothing more than what echostorm wrote. Except maybe something about chatting to the local crew to see if there are any unusual rules.
I was out in fun (big waves and huge wind) conditions a while back, and came off in front of the biggest wave I've faced. Not panicking is a good one. Deep breath, check kite position, and dive dive dive.
Go fellas go, thanks Eco, great stuff....would certainly fit on a piece of paper to start.
Y'all want signs...I personally hate signs as they are a kiting hazard and ugly to boot, but they have their place....depends on who pays and maintains them.
I think the biggest thing is to know your gear.(and sleep with it)[/u] Know how your safety works blindfolded while you are scratching your butt and eating a bananna. (whaaaat?)When I start on a different setup, I religoulsy go over all the safety releases several times seeing how quick I can hit them.(poor buggers what did they do to deserve that )
Always ride to your ability (if you don't have any at least wear boardies over your wettie)
Stay away from the public (particularly if you are hopeless and don't want to look like a kook)
Impact Vest ( under your rashie to make you look muscly)
Know how to read the ocean and not panic when you are stuck out the back in big swell ( or if you can't make sure you read a good book)
Learn basic handsignals ( middle finger upwards as you jump over a poleboarder)
Look before you turn ( there might be someone watching you ,make sure its a good one)
Look before you jump ( same as above)
Dont jump in the shallows ( your face headplanted in the mud with your arse in the air isn't a good look whan you stuff up)
Dont jump near objects ( jump on them )
Dont jump near kiters ( they'll punch your lights out )
Dont wear a board leash 9(well thats bloody obvious isn't it )
Dont be a hero in front of beachgoers by spraying them or showing how good you are at dodging swimmers ( why not?at least you didn't hit them))
Double check for surfers when tacking towards the beach (they can sometimes be hidden behind waves) and make sure you spray them when you find them ,it'll really piss em off )
Ride with a group ( you can compare notes on how cool your moves were at the end of the session)
Watch out for each other ( particularly when one of those surfers are coming up to deck ya)
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Hey Funkstar ![]()
In Perth - the W.A.K.S.A are apparently having 'discussions with local Councils due to indivdual poor expressions of ability...
How about a simplified sign at the least that says...
..................NEW TO KITEBOARDING ?....................
...Please ask experieced kiters for 'FRIENDLY' advice...
........... on setup and help for safe Launching......
The word friendly
(yes all you cut throat backstabin pirate forum writers
)will make you people more approachable, if you are tooo shyyy or just a snob ![]()
If anyone has ever gotten into a bit of bother, its nice to know - that person may just be the one who returns the favour..
O.k next Pirate please ![]()
ps. If your in Perth, get off this forum - WE GOT WIND ![]()
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If kiting was safe i would not be doing it, it would be boring.
Someone hurting someone else by their actions is a big deal and should be dealt with harsh consequences, but hurting yourself - wheres the problem.
What is it going to go the way of Calfornia where a 30 year old skateboarder can be fined $150 US for not wearing elbow pads - great!
This website has been invaded by safety guy.
Alot of the ideas are pretty good. Bringing these points up at least gets us thinking and we realise that alot of the problems we see with kiteboarding isn`t just something that we experience at our local spot but is wide spread.
Personally I think a very goog idea to start off with is the use of signs on or at entry to beaches. Especially the beaches that get crowded in summer by every day beach users (swimmers etc). At least these signs give the public and life guards back up to tell off the problem kiters. The point brought up earlier that we should be much more pro active at our local kite spots is very good. And this could be done diplomaticaly so that it doesn`t look like the locals are being aggresive. A simple `G`day mate, saw you get into a bit of trouble there. You know the locals (or better still blame the poleis) don`t really like that kind of stuff round here.` You get my point?
I`ve just started using the spot at Safety Bay (WA) and have found the kiteboarders to be a friendly bunch right from the start, always have time for a chat and advice. So if one of them came up to me to say I`ve done something not acceptable I wouldn`t be offended. Actually I`d appreciate it cause I`d feel that they don`t mind me using the spot but just want things safe for all of us.
At the end of the day, kiteboarding is fun for most of us because it is extreme and dangerouse. But that doesn`t mean it should be extreme and dangerous for the people around us. Nothing wrong with trying the cazy tricks and jumps that will make you crash like an out of control racing car, but just be aware of your surroundings. And look out for each other.