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Guidelines Scarb / City Beach NOV 2011 onwards

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Created by ScarbKiters > 9 months ago, 8 Nov 2011
tgladman
WA, 500 posts
22 Nov 2011 9:59PM
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so have we established what the 'rules' or 'etiquette' are regarding D/Wers thru the red zones when there is literally NO-ONE in the water? -obviously when there's ppl it goes without saying. but i'll bet there'll be many occasions this summer when kiters r cruising D/W and there's not a soul enjoying a tranquil swim in 30kn on-shores?

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
22 Nov 2011 11:17PM
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Safe and harmonious kiting. Keeping our piece of heaven.

So personally, I don't see the prob when the red zones are such a small percentage of the available coastline. I stay out of them regardless. We are 'being watched' in a sense, being a new, rapidly growing sport with an 'extreme' tag.

Same goes for staying away from fishos, swimmers, body boarders, surfers, dogs, etc.

And guess what? I'm still as stoked and as tired at the end of my session! I don't end thinking, man if only I'd had those 5 extra carves.....

default
WA, 1255 posts
23 Nov 2011 9:13AM
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Andrash said...

niall barrett said...


1. Downwind kite stay low, upwind kite stay high
2. Look behind before turning

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If you're not actually wave riding you should stay out of the surf zone
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Wave riders have right of way, remember they can't watch other kiters and the wave when riding so try to avoid them

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Please don't jump in the surf zone [unless youre doing aerials] as it's too crowded already
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Great post, Niall.
I would strongly suggest to include the above parts rephrased into the guide. Keeping peace with the clubbies and beach goers is top priority, but keeping peace amongst us should not fall too far behind. Those few km's are the only stretch in the metro area where there are reasonable (or not always) swells. Those not particularly there for wave riding have 10's of km to have fun elsewhere.


yeah great post...maybe you could also add:

**please dont stand on the shore line (talking to buddies or whatever) with your kite out over the water.

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:23AM
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niall barrett said...


.....Please don't jump in the surf zone [unless youre doing aerials] as it's too crowded already, everyone thinks youre a knob and only you thinks its cool....



Please don't surf in the jump zone, the jump zone begins at the first kicker and ends at the last roller, cheers.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:36AM
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niall barrett said...

Ahh it's summer again and with it come out all the twin tip Mow-the-lawners at Scarbs and contacios.

I am going to have my grumpy old man whinge here:


Dear Lawnmower,

Please be aware ther are a few guidelines to make the beach a happy place and promote peace, love and harmony with your fellow kiters and beach users.

The First 2 rules of kiting are and will always be:
1. Downwind kite stay low, upwind kite stay high
2. Look behind before turning
If everyone disciplined themselves in these we could double the kiters out without it feeling like a crowd

Happy Kitiing


Niall



It amazes me that more people don't know this simple little rule.

Gstar
WA, 391 posts
24 Nov 2011 2:48PM
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wishy said...



Please don't surf in the jump zone, the jump zone begins at the first kicker and ends at the last roller, cheers.


Funny. That too is how I see Scarbs most of the time, although I have had the odd grovel in the shorebreak, otherwise it's pretty much a great spot for kickers.....I thought the 'surf zone' was Trigg Point.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
24 Nov 2011 5:39PM
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Dear big wave dreamer - please don't assume everything ocean-side belongs to those on a surfboard being towed thru the surf zone by a kite (as opposed to surfing the wave).

I'm sure we can all find a little bit of joy on the coast without yet another us vs them situation of TT vs SB.[}:)]

IMO there is no justification to a SB having any more cred or ROW in mushy onshore slop. These are blobs of mush vaguely resembling waves and almost impossible to say where the wave begins and ends.

If you are 1st into the breaking zone - regardless of the craft - then go for it and expect a reasonable distance from surrounding craft.

Yes - I ride a twinny (but don't cut anyone's grass) and if I am in the zone 1st with ROW have equal right to the zone.

Twin-tips take differant lines and approaches to the breaking waves and it pays to keep that in mind. Certainly I keep in mind the most likely trajectory of the SB tow-ins north and south of me when i'm approaching the zone.

Equal respect = equal fun.

Simple.



Totally agree on these BTW

The First 2 rules of kiting are and will always be:
1. Downwind kite stay low, upwind kite stay high
2. Look behind before turning
If everyone disciplined themselves in these we could double the kiters out without it feeling like a crowd


Amen.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
24 Nov 2011 6:13PM
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The lonely voice of reason..

Fooosh said...

Safe and harmonious kiting. Keeping our piece of heaven.

So personally, I don't see the prob when the red zones are such a small percentage of the available coastline. I stay out of them regardless. We are 'being watched' in a sense, being a new, rapidly growing sport with an 'extreme' tag.

Same goes for staying away from fishos, swimmers, body boarders, surfers, dogs, etc.

And guess what? I'm still as stoked and as tired at the end of my session! I don't end thinking, man if only I'd had those 5 extra carves.....





To those grumbling about a hundred metres of sensibly excluded zoning..
compared to the kilometres of go for gold kiting area..
the glass is half 7/8 full!

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
25 Nov 2011 1:23AM
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Thanks funky but I think we've moved on to cups now....

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/If-I-wanted-to-live-in-Melbourne/

tightlines
WA, 3502 posts
25 Nov 2011 9:05AM
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^Call me greedy but I like jugs.

Whoops getting a bit off topic.

ScarbKiters
WA, 81 posts
6 Dec 2011 4:49PM
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Not Cool.

Floreat SLSC have reported that a kiter had gone into the flagged area and then lost his board. He was spoken to by the patrol member.

It is 1 incident that they've highlighted - we've had a major event go through (Red Kite fundraiser) with no problems and countless other kiters doing the right thing - but it is still not cool.

Could everyone who kites in the area please keep an eye out for 'information deficient' kiters and have a chat to them about the Guidelines (See first page of this thread please, if you haven't read it yet).

Many thanks,
Shan.



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