Hi to all who kite (or are thinking of kiting) around Scarborough Beach, WA!
As the last of the winter winds gust out (today) and the summer seabreezes start to kick in, I know we're all looking forward to a great season ahead but also to harmonious and safe kiting in the area.
Below are the revised guidelines which WAKSA will be publishing as hard copies also. The main difference is that we can now set up and launch North of the City Beach groyne again, but no launching / landing on the grass area / car park (ie, as we did before last summer).
As new kiters come to this stretch of beach, please help sustain our piece of heaven:
1. Please print out the Guidelines and have a copy spare to give to anyone you see setting up at the beaches - if they're local, they can then pass it on to someone else too, and if they are visiting, this will inform them.
2. If you haven't joined our group already, please Private Message us on the Seabreeze system with your email address OR email us at scarboroughkiters (at) yahoo (dot) com. [We don't publish emails here as spambots will pick them up]
Our numbers carry weight in any negotiations necessary.
3. Step in and politely 'educate' anyone not following the guidelines. The few minutes you may spend coming ashore or speaking to someone is a small investment for our future.
Good winds and big smiles to all! 
ALL THE OFFICIAL WA METRO KITESURFING LOCATION GUIDELINES ARE AVAILABLE HERE:
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Where-to-kitesurf-in-Western-Australia-official_4992834.aspx
Should have said "from 50m North of the northern City Beach groyne = 'Floreat groyne'".
There should, of course, be no kiting between the two groynes.
Visitors, the groynes are the breakwaters, long fingers of large rocks jutting out from the beach, the southern one has a watch tower on it.
Someone was looking for maps of the area? These are the updated ones above. WAKSA crew printing some but they have been busy organising some great events for us all!!
Aren't those guidelines pretty much what were suggested by responsible kiters about 2-3 years ago, yet they were abused and redthumbed ad nauseum? All they were trying to do was prevent conflict.
NOW that councils are all thinking about bans etc etc (ie: too late) suddenly it is a good idea..........
Needs an edit under "Respect" though. Instead of just "fellow kiters" how about "...... and other water users such as windsurfers and surfers who may have different manoueverability or pick up and ride waves in a different manner to kiters. Be aware of what others may be about to do, or need to do to get out out through the break, and be courteous"
If you're looking for respect, then go and. Look in your relevant forum instead of stoking the fire here.
There are good people in all walks of life and sports, lay off, your act is getting old.
Well well, so much for the guidelines. 15th of November...
Im sitting in Clancys Fish Bar City Beach 1pm having lunch, crew of 5 or 6 lauch and begin their downwinder by kiting right through the swimmers.
Later in the arvo, the situation at Brighton road was that the bulk of kiters are kiting north of the border path. South in the legit area there were only 3 kites up, north 2 dozen, poledancer area almost completely being taken over. Nice one. People are just ignoring the guidelines.
Glad I got my personal stretch of ocean up north 5x2km all to myself
yep -multiple kites in the water being washed through windsurf zone.
(by Windsurf zone i mean the 100m or so of beach that the windsurfers have been using to go sailing for the last 15 years or so- not an official zone)
multiple kite riders hanging in the windsurf zone in various states of relaunch ,crash and running through
old mate on the flysurfer was up to his usual tricks - go down the line - loose tension in lines and then twisted foil going all over the sky and into the water- seen this one about 10 times now from the same guy.
maybe somebody needs to word him up as he doesnt seem to be learning from his repeated **** ups
i was having a day off so it made for an enjoyable watch from the beach as i didnt have to deal with this annoying ****.
there were some nice waves cracking through
Niall was getting plenty of nice hacks as usual and showing respect by working the zone just to the south,
i dont think the zone officially kicks in till Dec 1 so perhaps the guidelines will be ignored till then
Hi again people,
There is the strongest of possibilities that many are still unaware of these guidelines with new kiters arriving daily! Beach signage is due up in December - WAKSA have been working with the Councils on this.
As a reminder, we are all able to do something to help sustain our piece of heaven (windsurfers and visiting kiters included):
1. Please print out the Guidelines and have a copy spare to give to anyone you see setting up at the beaches - if they're local, they can then pass it on to someone else too, and if they are visiting, this will inform them.
2. If you haven't joined our group already, please Private Message us on the Seabreeze system with your email address OR email us at scarboroughkiters (at) yahoo (dot) com. [We don't publish emails here as spambots will pick them up]
Our numbers carry weight in any negotiations necessary.
3. Step in and politely 'educate' anyone not following the guidelines. The few minutes you may spend coming ashore or speaking to someone is a small investment for our future.
This is a few minutes better spent than reading the forums and posting a few paragraphs about perpetrators (or ignorant people) who probably don't visit here anyway!
Looking forward to more huffs and puffs of the Freo Doctor kind! 
welcome back Bo, you only ever pop up to have a dig...it amazes me you are always there to see everything go down.
although I dont condone any bad etiquette, you cant expect every kiter out there to be glued to the internet and on top of all the changing rules and guidelines as they come to air.
Thanks Paul, I wasnt aware I had left
I happen to live nearly on Brighton Beach, kite, swim, bodyboard, cycle, have coffees multiple times a day sometimes.
I also like truth, even if its inconvenient
Coffee, for sure Paul. The Fig is pretty cool new brewhouse eh?
Regarding speaking to people, that's often unrealistic. In this case I'd have had to say goodbye to my delightful lunch partner, run after this crew all the way from City Beach to Trigg, hailing and gettin the finger in return, only to find myself outnumbered, jeered at, told to get fokkd etc.
And then in the arvo trying to catch and engage 2 dozen kiters would have made Don Quichote and his windmills look unremarkable.
Anyhow the fact that the the rules havnt kicked in, the signage is coming and the suggestion that crew hadnt heard about the rules are at least partially valid, so lets see what happens.
Me, I have a stretch of coast further north for kiting thats free of swimmers (apart fom seal an dolphins) and kiters too for that matter. I just don't get how we all have huddle together, kites touching, lines tangling, hemming in polers, swimmers, just to show our little bunny load and hops and those dreaded boardshorts over wetsuits. Yep, Im the weird old guy with the duck sun hat 
The Fig is pretty cool new brewhouse eh?
Down winders... So today cranked. Smiles all round. And I managed to abide by the rules and stay out of the red zones. But I must point out: there were no swimming signs up at scarbs and I counted 2 ppl (surfers) in the water at floreat and 2 ppl (surfers aswell) in the water outside the amphitheater. And I know kiters were humming thru both zones. My question is: who's going to get upset if there's kites motoring thru there when there's NO-ONE in there? Surely the council need to consider this? Also I'm positive there are HEAPS of kiters who don't read these forums so until proper signage is erected EVERYWHERE authorities are dreaming if they think kiters will comply. (ye who doesn't know doesn't comply. )
On this subject of beach guidelines and etiquette sometimes you would think common sense may come into play and people can look at a situation and make a judgement call.
The reason I mention this is that recently on a number of occasions at the north end of Contacios we've had a learn to surf group turn up. Logically you would think on a virtually deserted beach where there are 6 kiters in the water and some rigging up on the beach that you would take your 20 or 30 learners maybe 50mtrs upwind. Better still 100mtrs well out of the way.
But no, what does this genius do, he puts his 3 flags up right where everyone is and commandeers 50mtrs of beach. Maybe he has some arrangement with the council, maybe he has really bad eyesight and doesn't notice us, it's hard to know.
As the beach gets busier I thinks it's easy to respect other beach users and kite in our zones it's just a shame that some individuals seem totally ignorant of others.
Whinge over, hope this arvo will be as good as yesterday.
Reading these forums, I hear alot of kite bashing from the wind surfing community, today at Scarbs after finishing a downwinder I deceided to watch the windsurfers from the pipe.
Low and behold I witnessed a surfer take off on this wave, get dumped, and then get run over from a windsurfer. Talk about unlucky.
Perhaps the windsurfing community should pipe down suggsesting that kiters alone are the problem. Both sports have their risk.
That being said, surfing amongst 15 windsurfers aint that smart.
Hey Dudes,
Got pulled a side yesteray by a senior clubbie who was on duty at Flozza. He asked that we let everyone know to stay at least 100m away from the swimmers near the surf club. He thanked everyone who was doing the right thing, but he was also openly pissed off that some dude on a green / blue n white kite came right through the flags an buzzed some kids swimming at about 3pm.
The guy said we were suppose to be 100m clear of all swimmers at all times ( even when the flags were down ) ?????
Locals must take it in to their own hands, good stuff WAKSA.
Locals should be less shy about interacting when they see wrong.....it is not a good thing.........dats fo sure.
Season is starting out with strain, and that would be normal given the long wait and explosive growth. I am positive that the locals will sort themselves out as the new kiters get to know each other.
If you are new to a spot...............talk to the locals and learn the rules.
good on you guys WAKSA, these beach's are a disaster waiting to happen without some good solid guidlines set out. all the kiters packed in at scabs meter's away from the public, wouldn't be long until fins make face contact and there's some serious issues on route.
I did a DW on Sunday and some D#$^ Head on a North kite (I think it was yellow as far as I can recall) was kiting North of the black pipe at Scarbs. The guy was show boating bigtime, tried to get his attention as I was passing but he either could not hear me or chose not too.
Jumped off my board and bobbed around for a bit to catch him on his outward tack but no luck either.
If I was not a fat ass I would have tried to catch him but my upwind ability is crap and the last time I chase someone down they chased after me with a 9" knife (even though I tried to ram him with my car) - ah the good old days in Africa.
We all make mistakes by getting caught up in the thrill and accidently going to deep into restricted zones but the D%$# head was blatantly showboating in the restricted zone.
Cheers
Rich
Ahh it's summer again and with it come out all the twin tip Mow-the-lawners at Scarbs and contacios.
I am going to have my grumpy old man whinge here:
Dear Lawnmower,
Please be aware ther are a few guidelines to make the beach a happy place and promote peace, love and harmony with your fellow kiters and beach users.
The First 2 rules of kiting are and will always be:
1. Downwind kite stay low, upwind kite stay high
2. Look behind before turning
If everyone disciplined themselves in these we could double the kiters out without it feeling like a crowd
If you are learning then please go somewhere without waves for your own sake if no one elses.
If you're not actually wave riding you should stay out of the surf zone, what is wrong with gybing 70m out. Otherwise you can really end up hogging the surf zone because you never go downwind
Wave riders have right of way, remember they can't watch other kiters and the wave when riding so try to avoid them, but having said that everyone must take care.
Please don't jump in the surf zone [unless youre doing aerials] as it's too crowded already, everyone thinks youre a knob and only you thinks its cool.
If you do try and jump then its a good idea to learn to land especially when you're coming down on my head.
If it's 30kts then the 12m might not be the best choice as you will be flying around with it at full mast like a right turkey pissing everyone else off as they try to get by.
When you launch or land you're kite why not just ask for help, no one will mind and they would prefer that than being lacerated by run away kite lines.
When getting help remember your 'thumbs up' means ready to let go and launch, and a 'pat on your head' is your request to land.
When you do land the kite don't just leave your lines draped right across the beach and walk off- roll them up first they are hazard and nuisance to everyone else, and the ranger really hates to have to get salt under his 4WD.
Happy Kitiing
Niall
