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Great Article about big Noahs

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Created by wishy > 9 months ago, 18 Sep 2014
wishy
WA, 1501 posts
18 Sep 2014 10:46PM
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www.watoday.com.au/opinion/a-surfers-perspective-on-the-case-for-shark-culling-in-wa-20140918-10ilkj.html

I saw something massive thrashing around out there today.
Right on dusk and definitely not a dolphin.

Spitfire
WA, 398 posts
19 Sep 2014 5:39AM
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Why can't we start tagging these big sharks so we can track more and more of them when they are in our waters.

gokid
QLD, 491 posts
19 Sep 2014 10:08AM
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I saw 4 two m sharks in 3 kite sessions in Northern NSW last summer,

Kited right over to top of 2 sharks swimming side by side,

Kited back out 2 or 3 more times just to make sure they were't dolphins,

Next day saw another 2 m shark,

Kited back and forth a few times checking it out,

Accidently fell 3 m in front of it,

to busy looking at it and not where I was going,

Dove the kite as hard as I could to get out of the water,

Was pretty intense couple of seconds

There was a guy taken by a shark 2 weeks ago at Bryon Bay,

www.facebook.com/will.harding.102/posts/10152637597951668?notif_t=like

Close to where I was kiting

indogus
QLD, 26 posts
19 Sep 2014 10:44AM
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Great article from someone who hasn't lived in WA for more than 13 years at least. With a whole lot of hearsay evidence based on people who he grew up with. I don't doubt that there are plenty of sharks out there following fishing boats. Let's apply some logic there. If there are less fish available, then wouldn't sharks congregate around areas/places where there is a high concentration of food available? Doesn't mean the sharks are then heading for the beaches for dessert.

I also like the serial killer shark who has a modus operandi. Couldn't big sharks come up with better ideas for killing other than their jaws? I mean why bite in half and consume when there are other options like strangulation or poisoning?

Shark attacks are a tragedy. Perhaps there is a link between smaller fish populations and more people in the water...

Sammyjay
VIC, 180 posts
19 Sep 2014 11:13AM
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"Great" article? I hope you're being sarcastic there.

Its been written with no scientific support on the actual shark population, just "sightings of sharks".

Who are we (humans) to decide which species get to live untouched and which ones are culled because they're too big or have taken people in the ocean. Its their domain, they've been there for millions of years. We have a growing population which means more people in the water, so yes, that fact alone will mean the amount of shark attacks will increase. What about shark attacks per 100 persons? Do we know these values?

It disgusts me that people want to cull "rogue sharks" or sharks they deem to "have a taste for human flesh"

For anyone directly effected by shark attacks you have my deepest sympathy, the loss of someone dear to you is always tragic no matter the source. But the "solution" doesn't involve killing the sharks.

There really is no perfect solution, we live on this planet with animals that eat other animals, that's a fact of life. So there is always a risk of paths crossing and the tragic occurring.

****ing humans ruining this world.

mbuckley
WA, 54 posts
19 Sep 2014 9:21AM
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Just saw a sign that said, "King Waves Kill." Is anyone doing anything to cull these Rogue monsters?

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
19 Sep 2014 4:00PM
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wishy said..
www.watoday.com.au/opinion/a-surfers-perspective-on-the-case-for-shark-culling-in-wa-20140918-10ilkj.html

I saw something massive thrashing around out there today.
Right on dusk and definitely not a dolphin.


A great article?

It's nothing more than some bloke (who lives in Ireland) regurgitating fisherman's tales with not a shred of evidence to be seen.

"couple of big rogue great whites that, in recent years, have developed a taste for human flesh"

That sentence there should tell you everything you need to know about how much knowledge on the subject this guy has.

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
19 Sep 2014 9:50PM
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I love seeing all these comments from the "well-meaning but largely misinformed and sentimental types"


pattiecannon
QLD, 593 posts
21 Sep 2014 12:22AM
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indogus said..
Great article from someone who hasn't lived in WA for more than 13 years at least. With a whole lot of hearsay evidence based on people who he grew up with. I don't doubt that there are plenty of sharks out there following fishing boats. Let's apply some logic there. If there are less fish available, then wouldn't sharks congregate around areas/places where there is a high concentration of food available? Doesn't mean the sharks are then heading for the beaches for dessert.

I also like the serial killer shark who has a modus operandi. Couldn't big sharks come up with better ideas for killing other than their jaws? I mean why bite in half and consume when there are other options like strangulation or poisoning?

Shark attacks are a tragedy. Perhaps there is a link between smaller fish populations and more people in the water...


If a Rottweiler bit and maimed your child with one single attack, it's life would be terminated with or without your consent.

In byron, a shark bit a local, twice, then hung around after the victim was removed from the water and was subsequently followed out to sea by the coast guard.
As you all know, the local died. Double standard's here? YES.

This particular shark could easily be one and the same as one of the WA killers. If so this would make it a serial killer.
This shark was never tagged so we will never know more, but after the next one, we will all be forced to wonder.

Meanwhile hundreds of local sharks hung out, like they do every day, bothering no-one 'cept fish and turtle's.

In WA not one Great White was caught in the cull. However, report's suggest GW's were responsible for most of the 5 fatalities of the last 2 years.

GW's are known to travel the length and breadth of Australia.

What do you think?

I think ton's of catfood went to waste.






FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
21 Sep 2014 10:04AM
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pattiecannon said..
In byron, a shark bit a local, twice, then hung around after the victim was removed from the water and was subsequently followed out to sea by the coast guard. As you all know, the local died. Double standard's here? YES.


If that happened, they knew they had the right animal and could have destroyed it, then yes, that's ridiculous.


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This particular shark could easily be one and the same as one of the WA killers. If so this would make it a serial killer.
This shark was never tagged so we will never know more, but after the next one, we will all be forced to wonder.



Do you write badly researched sensationalist articles for anyone who will print them?

If not I think you've missed your calling in life.

The original article claims that a couple of rogue giant sharks are responsible for all the attacks in WA (without any evidence whatsoever).

Now you've gone a step further and claimed that they could be responsible for all the attacks in Australia!

People get attacked on both sides of the USA and South Africa, so it stands to reason that it must be a couple of rogue giant sharks with a taste for humans that are responsible for all attacks worldwide!

I mean, White sharks from South Africa have been to WA and back, so it could be possible!


Enough.

What this problem needs is lots more scientific research and lots more information so we can make informed decisions.

maxjp12
VIC, 32 posts
21 Sep 2014 12:54PM
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pattiecannon said..

indogus said..
Great article from someone who hasn't lived in WA for more than 13 years at least. With a whole lot of hearsay evidence based on people who he grew up with. I don't doubt that there are plenty of sharks out there following fishing boats. Let's apply some logic there. If there are less fish available, then wouldn't sharks congregate around areas/places where there is a high concentration of food available? Doesn't mean the sharks are then heading for the beaches for dessert.

I also like the serial killer shark who has a modus operandi. Couldn't big sharks come up with better ideas for killing other than their jaws? I mean why bite in half and consume when there are other options like strangulation or poisoning?

Shark attacks are a tragedy. Perhaps there is a link between smaller fish populations and more people in the water...



If a Rottweiler bit and maimed your child with one single attack, it's life would be terminated with or without your consent.

In byron, a shark bit a local, twice, then hung around after the victim was removed from the water and was subsequently followed out to sea by the coast guard.
As you all know, the local died. Double standard's here? YES.

This particular shark could easily be one and the same as one of the WA killers. If so this would make it a serial killer.
This shark was never tagged so we will never know more, but after the next one, we will all be forced to wonder.

Meanwhile hundreds of local sharks hung out, like they do every day, bothering no-one 'cept fish and turtle's.

In WA not one Great White was caught in the cull. However, report's suggest GW's were responsible for most of the 5 fatalities of the last 2 years.

GW's are known to travel the length and breadth of Australia.

What do you think?

I think ton's of catfood went to waste.








The two situations are in completely different contexts.

Rottweilers live among the community (on land) and if their owners allow something like that to happen
then yes it should be destroyed, because a kid, person or unassuming pet is not safe in their own backyard.

We are visitors to the ocean and as such bear total responsibility for anything that may happen; be it shark attack,
jellyfish sting or sunburn. If you do not want to risk getting attacked by a shark go to a swimming pool. or go and buy
a lottery ticket cause you'd have to have pretty similar odds of either occurring.

Give them the respect they deserve in their own domain and either leave them alone completely or develop non-lethal
attack mitigation methods.


JacobMatan
WA, 431 posts
21 Sep 2014 6:55PM
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Yeah I am out killing the king waves every session just basically shralping them to death
vvvvvvvvv

JacobMatan
WA, 431 posts
21 Sep 2014 6:56PM
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mbuckley said...
Just saw a sign that said, "King Waves Kill." Is anyone doing anything to cull these Rogue monsters?




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