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Finest Light Wind Combo

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Created by AKSonline > 9 months ago, 11 Sep 2010
16 Sep 2010 12:26PM
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Have to agree with Darren on everything he is saying. I've tried many different board combos with the Zephyr, and riding you normal winds smaller TT the bottom end is just not there below 14-15 knots, its goy nothing to do with skill just the physics that the kite needs apparent wind and a small board will just not allow the kiter and kite to get up enough speed - there's just too much drag happening.

BUT, put it with a bigger board in lighter winds and it will really amaze.
I've also tried it back to back with a Flysurfer Speed3 15M, several times and they both have a similar bottom end and will not get going on a 1.48x46 TT in under 10-12 knots.
However on an even bigger directional ( I tried Underground 5'8" kipuna, but there would be better light wind boards)/race board they will get you going upwind, cruising around having fun from around 8-10 knots.

16 Sep 2010 1:46PM
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Just FYI - Ian Young preceded Matt Colefax as Australia's first kitesurfer by approx 18 months, I had also been kitesurfing for several months prior to Matt showing me and letting me fly the first Wipika classic kite he had just imported, at Mooloolaba beach in 1998.
Matt Colefax was the first to import and sell inflatable Wipika brand kites in Australia, but he was not the first kitesurfer in Australia, sorry. Matt has a lot of experience and his opinion should be well regarded, no argument there.

Big kites never left, the point of difference now is that all the other brands you are trying to gain cred from do not produce 2 line kites with zero depower and marginal safety systems.

SUP is great, in no wind on flat water or downwind in windy conditions, its also pretty cool in waves if they are kept away from guys paddling on normal boards for waves. The paddle is what works best for SUP.

For light winds we already have the best tools for the job, read he thread. Race type boards with a larger depower inflato or foil are way better to use in light winds for all the right reasons - safety/relaunch/performance/price/versatility.



max14
SA, 220 posts
16 Sep 2010 2:14PM
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Waxy we are all good mate... Not hard feelings from this end :) oh and by the way, big congratualtions on the birth of your son. Will have to have a drink at the beach for ya when the seabreezes kick in :)

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
16 Sep 2010 2:22PM
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I'm going to have to be KBitch for a while until i've finished the physio on my foot, but will be out there with the camera or just floating around on my SUP with a fishing rod. There will definitely be some time for beers

Surfer62
1357 posts
16 Sep 2010 1:10PM
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T one said...

dude, i ride a 135 pro toy and am well lit in 14knots on my zeph. im around 100kg give or take. demo the 2 options... i know what i'd be doing!


For the naysayers, lightwind or strongwind, who cares, just enjoy the moment, heaps of good cheap 2nd hand big kites around, no need to spend big $$$$$$.

Tone, at Sanur in August on one of the very light days I was following you upwind on my bargain $350 2008 15m and 135 tt, you were on your zeph and 145tt, I wasnt exactly powered but still enjoying cruising over the lagoon in boardies !! Thats a novelty for a mexican. C u there again next July.

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
17 Sep 2010 12:10AM
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yeah but i bet there was waves everywhere except sanur lagoon.

T one
NT, 321 posts
17 Sep 2010 7:13AM
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of course there was, but it's not ideal trying to wave kite in 9-12 knots. save that for a better day...
and while we're at it, found the zeph to be ok in cross off to cross on, parks well, but struggle a bit in direct or near direct onshores

Hi surfer, yep it's a great place to kite. i'll be there... i'm back over there tomorrow, but just surfing this time i think.
cheers T

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
18 Sep 2010 11:43PM
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T one said...

of course there was, but it's not ideal trying to wave kite in 9-12 knots. save that for a better day...
and while we're at it, found the zeph to be ok in cross off to cross on, parks well, but struggle a bit in direct or near direct onshores

Hi surfer, yep it's a great place to kite. i'll be there... i'm back over there tomorrow, but just surfing this time i think.
cheers T


... Hey Tone, you let everyone think you going away for work, you sneaky bugger, off for a quick surf instead, nice work dude!!! Have fun!

T one
NT, 321 posts
20 Sep 2010 3:27PM
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dont tell the missus
i have to go thru bali on the way there and back, and it would be a crime not to have a quick surf/kite eh? looks like its crankin there today, but im sitting on the equator with a solid 3 knots.

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
20 Sep 2010 4:09PM
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T one said...

dont tell the missus
i have to go thru bali on the way there and back, and it would be a crime not to have a quick surf/kite eh? looks like its crankin there today, but im sitting on the equator with a solid 3 knots.


... ha ha ha, good one dude. It was really windy today but had to work but it was an unusual day in that one of my jobs I had to get a lift out to the boat parked out in the harbour, and when I took one look at all the wind I feared the worst and thought its gunna be one of those days for sure, looks like I'm going to get wet. But as it turned out, I was picked up in a twin V8 2 x 350 horsepower 10m RIB that did 65 knots over the water no matter what the conditions were. It was a blast, and actually felt like hanging on to your old jetski!!

Good luck with your 3 knots ... oh, and your work stuff too!

cheers,

Robbie

schmik
NSW, 235 posts
20 Sep 2010 8:29PM
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Owning a flysurfer I have done a lot of light wind kiting.

Best tip = lose weight ;)
Next get a larger flatter wider board but not so big you can't have a bit of fun on it. There is hardly any chop when it is that light so a flat board won't be a PITA
Get the biggest kite you can that will still fly and be fun. This is tricky. Too big and it turns lit crap, is very hard to relaunch and is too slow to work (up and down).

Can't comment on the Zephr but i have flown:

Speed 2 19m silver arrow, speed 2 15m Delux, Speed 2 15 standard, Speed 3 15 standard, speed 3 15 delux.

The best of these, IMO, was the speed 2 15 delux. Small enough to work, turns ok and relaunches great. Pity I don't own one. I can, just, hold it down at 25kn.
Speed 3 has lost some of the bottom end and IMO this is why they released a 21m... to get the same bottom end as the 19m silver arrow (speed2) used to have.

But the speed 3 turns a lot better and has heaps of top end. I'd say 30kn would be ok on the speed 3 15m.

And... being a flysurfer fan also find them a little on the expensive side.
If i had $ to burn i would buy the 21m speed without a 2nd thought. That thing is not for jumping... it is for gliding.

mike



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