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Created by alverstone > 9 months ago, 29 Jan 2018
alverstone
WA, 533 posts
29 Jan 2018 1:37PM
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Just putting this out there, but after smashing my shoulder several years ago, helping to carry one bloke with a smashed leg down the beach, and watching the increasing popularity of some spots, wouldn't it be a good idea to have a St John Ambulance-approved sign at each of those where people have had accidents? Suggestions; Woodman's, the Pond, Pt Walter, maybe Dutchies, Mullas and Trigg too.
The signs could listing the right number, correct location and nearest cross street. I was at Woodies last night, and for the life of me thought I'd never be able to guess where the nearest cross street was in an emergency.

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
29 Jan 2018 9:09PM
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They've got beaches entrance numbers here in QLD, would be a small cost to add on a bit of description.

good public policy alv, if only the politicians weren't busy ripping down the statues.


George Orwell
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ReefWalker
WA, 117 posts
30 Jan 2018 3:40PM
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Interestingly, I called an ambulance for a guy last year for a kiting accident that occurred between Floreat and Scarborough Beach here in Perth. I quoted the beach access entry number that is displayed prominently on the beach and the 000 operator didn't have a clue what I was talking about...

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
30 Jan 2018 4:05PM
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St John are now in the process of rolling out a new app, (been around a year or so). It works similar to Uber in that it detects your location via your phone. Also has the nearest AED locations in there as well. Also anyone within a 500m radius that works for them gets an alert which will pop up on the apps map to attend.
It still early stages but it has huge potential for avoiding confusion and aiding an incident.

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1081 posts
31 Jan 2018 10:04AM
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Gazuki said..
St John are now in the process of rolling out a new app, (been around a year or so). It works similar to Uber in that it detects your location via your phone. Also has the nearest AED locations in there as well. Also anyone within a 500m radius that works for them gets an alert which will pop up on the apps map to attend.
It still early stages but it has huge potential for avoiding confusion and aiding an incident.


Someone will be close by - there is always someone nearby




Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
31 Jan 2018 12:18PM
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ReefWalker said..
Interestingly, I called an ambulance for a guy last year for a kiting accident that occurred between Floreat and Scarborough Beach here in Perth. I quoted the beach access entry number that is displayed prominently on the beach and the 000 operator didn't have a clue what I was talking about...


Because 000 operators are only there to get you through to the local relevant emergency call centre- just tell them the service, the state/ territory and town/ suburb. they then put you through to either police/ ambo/ fire service that will be able to use more specific info.

ReefWalker
WA, 117 posts
31 Jan 2018 10:24PM
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Beersy said..

ReefWalker said..
Interestingly, I called an ambulance for a guy last year for a kiting accident that occurred between Floreat and Scarborough Beach here in Perth. I quoted the beach access entry number that is displayed prominently on the beach and the 000 operator didn't have a clue what I was talking about...



Because 000 operators are only there to get you through to the local relevant emergency call centre- just tell them the service, the state/ territory and town/ suburb. they then put you through to either police/ ambo/ fire service that will be able to use more specific info.


Nope.... At least not here in WA.
the 000 operator advised me that they were in communications with St John ambulance and a vehicle was on the way. At no time was I put through to anyone else.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
1 Feb 2018 11:00AM
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ReefWalker said..

Beersy said..


ReefWalker said..
Interestingly, I called an ambulance for a guy last year for a kiting accident that occurred between Floreat and Scarborough Beach here in Perth. I quoted the beach access entry number that is displayed prominently on the beach and the 000 operator didn't have a clue what I was talking about...




Because 000 operators are only there to get you through to the local relevant emergency call centre- just tell them the service, the state/ territory and town/ suburb. they then put you through to either police/ ambo/ fire service that will be able to use more specific info.



Nope.... At least not here in WA.
the 000 operator advised me that they were in communications with St John ambulance and a vehicle was on the way. At no time was I put through to anyone else.


Nah man- I worked at 000- all they do is put you through to an operator for the emergency service in your state. Would never have gone straight through.

alverstone
WA, 533 posts
1 Feb 2018 8:03AM
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Rails said..
They've got beaches entrance numbers here in QLD, would be a small cost to add on a bit of description.

good public policy alv, if only the politicians weren't busy ripping down the statues.


George Orwell
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."


- George Orwell, 1984
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Yes, we have similar signs on some major WA and Perth beaches. However, I'm not sure how many know they are there and their purpose.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
1 Feb 2018 12:04PM
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Beersy said..

ReefWalker said..


Beersy said..



ReefWalker said..
Interestingly, I called an ambulance for a guy last year for a kiting accident that occurred between Floreat and Scarborough Beach here in Perth. I quoted the beach access entry number that is displayed prominently on the beach and the 000 operator didn't have a clue what I was talking about...





Because 000 operators are only there to get you through to the local relevant emergency call centre- just tell them the service, the state/ territory and town/ suburb. they then put you through to either police/ ambo/ fire service that will be able to use more specific info.




Nope.... At least not here in WA.
the 000 operator advised me that they were in communications with St John ambulance and a vehicle was on the way. At no time was I put through to anyone else.



Nah man- I worked at 000- all they do is put you through to an operator for the emergency service in your state. Would never have gone straight through.


Unless there was just screaming or noise when you first called, then the operator may have just transferred you without you asking based on the background noise

LtleBitOfBrz
VIC, 24 posts
1 Feb 2018 9:09PM
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There's a 000 app that can be used to provide GPS coordinates.

emergencyapp.triplezero.gov.au/

ReefWalker
WA, 117 posts
1 Feb 2018 10:29PM
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Ok. Fair call. Probably was passed straight through then.
So the ambo operator didn't know about the beach access track numbers then....

rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
2 Feb 2018 8:34AM
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alverstone said..
Just putting this out there, but after smashing my shoulder several years ago, helping to carry one bloke with a smashed leg down the beach, and watching the increasing popularity of some spots, wouldn't it be a good idea to have a St John Ambulance-approved sign at each of those where people have had accidents? Suggestions; Woodman's, the Pond, Pt Walter, maybe Dutchies, Mullas and Trigg too.
The signs could listing the right number, correct location and nearest cross street. I was at Woodies last night, and for the life of me thought I'd never be able to guess where the nearest cross street was in an emergency.



You mean like these... BEN Beach Emergency Number

thewest.com.au/news/sound-southern-telegraph/bens-lifesaving-legacy-ng-b88461784z


Just hassle the council to get one installed... there are govt grants for it.
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/About-Us/Media-releases/Pages/ch-Emergency-Numbers-grant-applications-open.aspx
and
www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2017/12/Beach-Emergency-Numbers-grant-applications-open.aspx

alverstone
WA, 533 posts
2 Feb 2018 12:38PM
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rod_bunny said..



alverstone said..
Just putting this out there, but after smashing my shoulder several years ago, helping to carry one bloke with a smashed leg down the beach, and watching the increasing popularity of some spots, wouldn't it be a good idea to have a St John Ambulance-approved sign at each of those where people have had accidents? Suggestions; Woodman's, the Pond, Pt Walter, maybe Dutchies, Mullas and Trigg too.
The signs could listing the right number, correct location and nearest cross street. I was at Woodies last night, and for the life of me thought I'd never be able to guess where the nearest cross street was in an emergency.






You mean like these... BEN Beach Emergency Number

thewest.com.au/news/sound-southern-telegraph/bens-lifesaving-legacy-ng-b88461784z


Just hassle the council to get one installed... there are govt grants for it.
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/About-Us/Media-releases/Pages/ch-Emergency-Numbers-grant-applications-open.aspx
and
www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2017/12/Beach-Emergency-Numbers-grant-applications-open.aspx




Exactly! Come to think of it, I now remember the story of that sign going up at Falcon.

I'll have a dig around and see what it takes to get a Dept of Sport and Recreation grant for the same, but a bit smaller, at the most used and dangerous kite sites.

Sugegstions; Augusta, Margs, Avalon, The Pond, Shoalies, Woodies car park, Leighton, Dutchies, Scarbs, Trigg, Pinners, Mullas and Lano? They could be included with the ones already there - and upwind of any paths!

Phoney
NSW, 608 posts
2 Feb 2018 7:20PM
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LtleBitOfBrz said..
There's a 000 app that can be used to provide GPS coordinates.

emergencyapp.triplezero.gov.au/


As I said in the other thread, your smartphone can text GPS coordinates.

eg: From an iphone in new message click the information icon in the top right corner and click Send My Current Location.

I've been able to locate friends in a crowd of 10,000 doing that.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
2 Feb 2018 6:02PM
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It would be easier for you to work out where you are (accurately) than for the emergency call taker to figure it out from vague **** like the next track through the dunes south of Spot X, or the carpark before Sorrento Beach Surf Club or SB03.



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