ok, Ive read downwinder.com.au
went in with an open mind after being scolded for being a negative dhead.
one point stood out above all others...
"a risk assessment program takes place over the next 9 months by the Ranger from the City of Cambridge"
this is exactly why I didnt like the sound of this venture. the city of joondalup springs to mind. sorry to be negative but the writing is on the wall.
I sincerely hope it is all worth it.
When your out doing your thing along the coast peacfully then all of a sudden its the school bus crew, ARRGGGHH, here they come.
Hey Paul aka default, its no stress mate I am not against you..and I appreciate the fact you would take the time to send the email. I find on this forum there is people waiting for new posts so they can poo poo stuff. Now I am not havin a go at you personally at all. I wondered if you were a safety advisor your mindset is to look out for potential risks etc...the thing is kiting isnt this massive dangerous sport etc like everyone gets in a fit about.. its nothing compared to driving your car or getting skin cancer. The beach stretch for DW is amongst the most uncrowded in the metro area...and yes we should avoid swimmers etc ...the reality is kiting will grow regardless of a shuttle service and these people gotto do it somewhere so its better that it has more organization and awareness around this. These guys runnin the shuttle deal sound like they are going about it in a responsible way so give it a fair go and stop jumping to conclusions.
See you in the water your eyeballs are safe!!
This is a good proposal. I live in Scarbs so I'd just walk down to the bus. No car headaches 
As to the knockers, the bus operator could actually help educate with flyer/poster/verbal info e.g.
-Spread out/leave room
-Kiting through flagged areas
-Keeping the City Beach launch area sane
You're much more likely to control behaviour through a peer bus group (WAKSA endorsed) than random irresponsible loose canons passing through, many of which have already been cause for concern...[}:)]
Misbehaving loose canons simply don't get on the bus next time round 
you can allways use public buses also to get back to your car - just remember qtr to or qtr past from sorrento, oh and your bus money
Sayyy Bevo and ADS - you're not complaining about kiter etiquete are ya? That can't be right.. next thing you'll be accused of boofing pole dancers.
Hmmm.. the bus service does sound a bit concerning in some respects. Great effort from those involved to get it happening but maybe needs a tweak?
Can I suggest the bus run goes from Swanny to Floreat instead of to Brighton. As another scribe has pointed out the Floz to Brighton run is pretty crowded already and a mass of numnutz all moving through at once could be carnage. 
[}:)]
The swanny run is less crowded and has far less other water/beach users around so probably a better idea. Great view too if you like brown-leather @rses n schlongs waving about in the dunes.
I tried it out today, there was two of us and we set up on a deserted beach, I did my down winder, came across three guys in total it was great,
Obviously the three guys were all crying after they saw me.
I think all the regular locals should pack up and get off the beach when the bus runs are on so that those who want to make use of the service get a fair run without having to fight their way through all those who think they should be the only ones there.
FFS guys Leighton to Brighton is 14 or 15 kms of 95%+ deserted beaches. If you cant manage your own fun kiting session around an extra 20 kiters making their own path home you are the FIRST ones who shouldnt be there. Not the ones who are telling others to stay away.
Try a trip to Tariffa (or any kite beach in Europe etc) some time.
Actually dont. You would be swallowed up and spat out while everyone who knows how to share ground are killing it.
You want a 100 hectares of exclusive space all to yourself head north or learn to develop safe practices on what is probably one of the most uncrowded stretches of suburban beach in the world.
if you cant do that you shouldnt be out there.
Dunno if you are referring to my post Puppet?
Anyway I think it's common sense that if a bus load of kiters are going to rock up at one time then suggesting they choose a less frequented spot is going to be good for the other regular kiters in a busy spot, the public using popular beaches, and ultimately the kiters on the bus.
Seems obvious to me anyway?
There is heaps of under utilised beach space in the Perf metro, why bung a whole bus load on the most crowded spots at one time? Unless you enjoy Tarriffa or that vibe.
Truth is the stitching on Perf metro beaches is starting to strain, so why not expand the territory a bit instead of concentrating it close to popular public beaches.
Just my 2c
Why would a bus make it more crowded?
As it is most crew all turn up at the same time, they all finish work at the same time. Get there at 3.30 you get it to yourself, get there 4.30 good luck finding a spot on the beach to set up.
If a bus runs at a regular time, its easy to catch it you want and easy to miss if you want a solo run. Even if the bus was full, you can still stagger when you set off.
I think a "late" service would be a good idea for the crew who work normal hours and cant usually spare the time to do the run back up to City.
Hi guys the commercial shuttle run trip has been done by downhill MTBers for quite a number of years, at first there was opposition mainly from the locals, because of all the blow ins.
But now it is one pretty happy community, all looking down the same path,
more riding, meeting people from all over the place.
I hope it all works for you sounds great
I gave it a shot yesterday and it was great. As others have said, it reminded me of snowboard chairlifts or downhill mountain biking shuttles. The organisers are a good crew with total respect for regulations. The bus left at the time stated and there were pumps on board with various fittings. We arrived at an empty grass area to set up and walked down to wide empty beach south of the southern groin, cruised out around City Beach then in for a few waves with a small crowd at the usual drop off area. The rest of the trip was solo, I came across two other kiters on my way down and there were less crew than usual at Brighton despite good conditions, landed my kite, jumped in car and drove home. When I first read about this topic I had visualized a bus load of additional kiters but I think it's more likely to be filled with the current local crew or the occasional traveller. Having watched the crowds grow at Brighton, I reckon this could be a positive step to help manage some of the issues with rapid kiter population growth.
I to was on this bus yesterday. There were only 5 of us, pumps supplied.
Nathan and I pumped up first and were set up, out in the water and well away before the other guys even came down the beach.
I to was riding solo as I went further ahead of Nathan and had one epic session.
Came in at Brighton, packed up, in my car 10 mins later and home 5 minutes after that. No need to go back to City, get the car, get stuck in the peak hour traffic heading back North.
Even though there were 5 of us Down Winder kiters, we were all spread out so the way I see it, there is no impact and certainly no difference to the herds of kiters who do down winders along this stretch each day.
Thanks Anton and I hope it works out.
Garth
nice one boys...at least you guys gave it a crack before an opinion was made..this subject is all very reminiscent of daylight saving.." oo change..cant have that in WA"
Kiteboarding is getting popular by the year and its only a matter of time before the vast kms of empty beach will get overcrowded, and we are all going to have to adapt. Enjoy it while we have it .I say
I'm with you puppet.. Wrong end.
Sounds great.. How bout an extended service to pick up a leighton swanbourne or swanbourne floreat downwinder:-))
I jumped on the bus yesterday arvo, there were about 5 of us guys on it. Didn't seem like too many people knew about it. Any way wind was cranking, I was on my 9m nomad with full depower on the ids. Possibly one of the hardest take off areas at city beach there cos the waves will smash ya before u know it, make sure you work your way out past the waves.. I found out the hard way.
One of the screws on my foot straps decided to blow out of the board just as I was about to get hitting the waves around floreat which was not cool. Other than that was awesome day for it and the bus service is awesome!
Had a sick session on the bus yesterday.
6 guys on the bus, it turned out that 2 at a time launched.
I kited near 2 people on 2 separate occasions until I got to brighton.
It seems to me that most people that ride the bus either
a) would go out at brighton anyway
b) would do a downwinder anyway with a mate.
Disclosure - I am Antons mate. And I will pay to use the service if he chooses to continue it.
I got on the bus today and donated a pump to the cause. If this service is to continue,a good idea is to have a membership fee for the season. That way you can get on as many times as you like over the season and you dont need to remember your wallet.
It could be discounted, kind of like a season lift pass for the snow compared to a daily one.
A couple of runs would be more convenient but unless its worth the guys time he obviously isnt going to do it.
Its good value for free so give a test while its still going. 4.15 on the dot he is gone.
I have been doing a few DWers from cities to trigg its a great run, pretty hectic on the WE with kiters, polies, swimmers, surfers and clubies in the water from Brighton to Trigg.
Anyway Last sunday there would have been 20 people rigging up on the grass at City beach along with others shooting threw from further along the coast, staggered the launch over 10-15mins and I basically kited the strech alone with my mate. If we did get in sync with another kiter either a long tack or a quick rip down the line and we where clear.
Once we hit Brighton it was offshore a 200m and blat down to conties get out of the confusion of mowing the lawn kiters, swimers and poleys, to hit the last few waves before coming in. Its Just too easy to avoid the hassel of trying to ride shore break in this section.
No problems at all with that many people in the water. Weekends are busier than weekdays.
Also Just a reminder dont launch your kite off the grass in the carpark at North CB's as some dude decided to and almost ended up in the side window of the ute he launched next too (had a quite word with him).., plenty on clear sand against the rockwall or north past the gryone.
Luv to try the bus out but cant make the 4.15 time, Be great to see a few more runs at later times, say 4.45 and 5.30pm.
cheers
^^^I had a polite word to the euros currently camping out at Foreat Groin (in big red bus) on monday. They were all launching and landing on/from the grass area in front of the cars.
This is a big no no and the council has requested we dont do this.
Pumping up kites is generally considered ok, but as soon bar and lines are involved, this is bad, there are too many other people who use this grass area for recreation, not to mention the cycle path. The grass area is not for kiters only. Rig up, launch and land on the beach in front of the grass area
I havent been departing from Floz the last few days but have seen the euros still there as Ive gone past. I will be very disapointed if they are still launching and landing their kites on the grass.
