Did it on the 9m and the 12m yesterday. Doing the 16 today 
Love it on the 12 turns faster and no presure to really speak of 
Also great on the 9 to remove the presure but makes it even quicker in the sky than before will get use to it though
All in all very happy with the results we used the Reily pullies as the Ronstan ones were out of stock and 2mm spectra line.
We were out for 3 hours yesterday and no sore arms on return, prior to this I was coming in after 2 with sore elbows
hey Fitzy, you da MAN! sounds like you hit the nail on the head, BIG props to you........ now you just gotta work out how to put a wakeboard tower on the "maggie Z"
Hey Terry - Off to Maui eh? You lucky pri*k. I'm so green.
Try the mod and enjoy. I have had nothing but positive feedback.
Found two more prospective converts out at Wavebreak Island today stuggling with the "non existant" bar pressure.
They will convert this week.
Smash those waves at Maui and let us know haow you go.
Fitzy - Gold Coast OZ
Yep Duke.
I'm on to it.
Thought I could borrow one of Paulio's Nan's walking frames and fit a couple of bungee cords to it incorporating a spinlock cleat, a sliding rubber stopper ball and a few more pulleys.
We could attach it to the Bimini on the Bridge Deck with an old Slingshot line set and use it to tow guys on 2000 model Stonker Directionals.
With an outgoing tide and the boat doing 8 knots it should rock next time we take the Maggie Zee up to the pin.
Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
Fitzy my long long lost luvveee, you know you can borrow anything i own including my lusicous body, iv heard your a real ladies man now and i would love a 'rock n roll' on the MaggieZ. XXOO
P.S i will leave my teeth at home
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhhhh
Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
Fitzy 
It seems ur the hero of every bow-kiter on the WA coast.
Well done lad 
Reckon u should hit em up for pitching in for a free trip over for KITESTOCK 
Would only cost em a few bucks each - there's that many of em
FITZY 4 KITESTOCK rah rah rah FITZY 4 KITESTOCK rah rah rah
Only fair I reckon 
ps - if ur coming pls bring paulios nan with U - its time I got her back on the straight & narrow. Judging by some recent posts the altziemers has obviously blotted out our Mambo promises to one another 
Im shattered
Dearest Fitzy & Friend,
You've saved me from cashing in my 3 kite quiver. The difference is remarkable.
THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Pez,
Thanks for the acknowledgment.
I was about to ditch my 16 before doing the mod, So I am right with you. Anyway, many happier CB riders out there now.
Cheers
Paul (from Melbourne)
Did it to my 9 today, went out all afternoon (check the Norah Head, North East NSW chart for today) - unbelievable! I wasn't expecting such a marked difference. Opens up one handed tricks again! Thanks heaps hey. Cheers
OK thats enough thankin these 2 guys,they are not the new messiah's and if they were i wish theyd rise from the dead and bring us some fu#kin easter eggs , i rode a crossbow for 4 to 5 mins and didnt notice any pressure at all.
You Idiot Paulio
Hasn't anyone told you that laying in the back of your work ute on top of a Crossbow sucking tinnies of Victoria Bitter does not ACTUALLY count as kiting.
The only bar pressure you understand is when the barmaid asks you to pay for your Nan's flagon each morning. And can you please tell her to stop ringing me up at 2am.
Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
Hey Pauloz
I spoke to a local kiter yesterday who has just returned from 6 months in Melbourne. He reckons that Pete Cabrinha must be driving a Bentley by now judging by the number of Crossbows down there. He reckons they are just about in plague proportions.
Hope you can catch up with as many as possible to show them the mod.
Hope you are settling back into work after the break up here. Come back soon. Thanks heaps for your help.
Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
quote:
Originally posted by paulio
they are not the new messiah's
Hey Fitzy, spent two long hours on the upwind game today and my elbows are good
I am so happy with the extra pulleys, thanks again for your post.
Nick
Good to hear Nick
Still can't fathom the various posts on other forums denying the existance of troublesome bar pressure. WTF ???
Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
I have done the mod on my new 12m as well and it works great. Thanks for the post and to stringmonkey for the line!
...thanks for making the effort to fix the problem and post your findings - well done guys!
Perhaps the effect would be the same...add 2 pullies and you should half the pressure as you now have 4......I thunk
Select to expand quoteOriginally posted by rickyM
Anyone tried this on a TD 12 yet? If so, what were your experiences :)
Cheers
the td has an on the fly stopper ball so bar pressure is not an issue it is imo by far the best bar setup of any of the bow kites
Not sure if anyone thought of this but the modification adds extra length to the ront lines due to the addition of the pully - unless you deducted its length from your lines.
This will explain a few of the comments on appearing to have slightly more power and that you can now rest the bar on the stopper without if starting to fall from the sky. And the desire for some to use a different knot for the back lines
I don't think it is really that much of a big deal for most people but by doing this we have added about 2-3 cm to the front line
I tried the modification on my 16 and noticed two things. Yes, the bar pressure is significantly less, but the kite also has less loft and pull. I think the static connection involved is designed to control the load onto the two lines coming off it, delivering more tension towards the centre of the kite, making the kite fly flatter. I seem to notice the kite looks more folded now.
I believe it is a trade off, but probobly well worth it for most, as it's all about pleasure.
I've also tried one step further and replaced the next "two into one" junction (above and towards the centre) with a pulley. This takes the effect another step lighter and less power. (wouldn't recommend it.)
These kites are designed in a wind tunnel, so they wouldnt be able to instantly test how the kite turns, as they would be able to test the static forces. I'd love to hear someone from Cabrinha R&D comment on this.
Hi Marty
Have had heaps of emails regarding the bridle change. All report far less bar pressure especially with the 16M Bow. A few have commented that they felt that there was slightly less power. Some have reported that by making small adjustments to the pigtail lengths that the power returned. It could be caused by slightly misjudging the length of line required to make the fix.
Also a few have reported that after riding for some time with the modification that they have adapted to the lighter pressure and believe that they may have been oversheeting due to the much lighter bar pressure than before. I certainly found this in my case. Having said that my elbows have not stopped thanking me !!!
I, like you, would like to here CAB's R&D dept make some comment on these points.
Regards Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
Yeah iv had enuf of thankin Fitzy and paul'oz for their breakthrough, he is not the new messiah. Its only the hot lezzo chicks on his boat that call call him 'GOD'
Thanks Fitzy!
GREAT mod. Worked wonders with my 16m, and yesterday I tested it on my 9m in gusty 25+ - FANTASTIC!!!!
