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Cabrinha C Kite for 2010

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Created by toppleover > 9 months ago, 8 Mar 2009
toppleover
QLD, 2067 posts
8 Mar 2009 12:01PM
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Anyone have any more info on this.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2355211

Thelonerider
QLD, 24 posts
8 Mar 2009 2:45PM
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The mail is world wide sales of the Crossbow is declining or the Bow Kite in General.
Hybrids and the new C kites are dominating world sales.The Fuel , Torch and Vegas have a huge following now Ozone has anounced a C kite is coming into to production in the not to distant future and Cabrinha will follow suit as well.Cabrinha had extremely dissapointing sales of the Revolver so the C is making a comeback or should I say they never really went anywhere they just got a hell of alot better.
Testing and production is well under way look out for some major suprises for 2010.

Thelonerider

bellz
WA, 572 posts
8 Mar 2009 2:52PM
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petty sure i remember pete cabrina saying "we will never make a C kite again"

pfr
NSW, 156 posts
8 Mar 2009 5:49PM
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now there will be a c with a good bar finally, unlike the cluttered rubbish being made by slingshot year after year

Hammerhead
NSW, 118 posts
8 Mar 2009 6:05PM
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pfr said...

now there will be a c with a good bar finally, unlike the cluttered rubbish being made by slingshot year after year


WTF, how can you cay that? Slingshot have one of the cleanest bars there is. Over half the guys at my beach who ride a Cabrinha have converted their bar to a Slingshot setup. Replaced the chicken loop, trim system and below the bar safety with SS, whilst just keeping the Cabrinha bar, works really well and they all love it.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
8 Mar 2009 4:06PM
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I remember Mark shinn also saying something along those lines and other stuff about how inferior they are on kook forum not that long back. hahaha.

kitecroc
SA, 513 posts
8 Mar 2009 5:39PM
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bellz said...

petty sure i remember pete cabrina saying "we will never make a C kite again"


Even kite companies have the right to change their minds!

pfr
NSW, 156 posts
8 Mar 2009 6:31PM
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i couldn't imagine doing that to my cab bar, especially after having fuel bars and seeing many slingshot bars fall apart. it doesn't make sense to do that.

jammerhead
7 posts
8 Mar 2009 4:54PM
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its like putting daewoo parts on a ferrari

4lawn
WA, 83 posts
8 Mar 2009 5:38PM
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I remember when I first saw a bow kite I reckoned that as a kite it would make an excellent awning over a window ..

Thelonerider
QLD, 24 posts
8 Mar 2009 6:50PM
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Just remember Cab had the Co2 which was up there when it came to C kites.It was probably one of the most popular around.I think kite companies are realising their is a market for C kites especially for the young generation of kite surfers which are into wakestyle kiteboarding.I know I have always had a C kite in my quiver and always will.Even good C kites these days you can get away with a two kite quiver as range and depower are nearly as good as hybrids/ bows but when it comes to performance C kites are in a league of their own.


Thelonerider

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
8 Mar 2009 9:38PM
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I reckon unhooked waveriding (park it style) still feels nicer on C's than hybrids also. Don't get me wrong hybrids/SLE's still perform fine but there's something there.

Gorgo
VIC, 5098 posts
8 Mar 2009 11:45PM
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I can see there being a niche for C kites and if Cabrinha want to make a kite for that market then that's just good business.

I can't see C kites catching on for the mainstream market. Who wants to go back to the days of having to ride a 15-20m kite just to get out on a light wind day.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
8 Mar 2009 10:02PM
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^ how long since you rode a C kite????? 2002?

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
9 Mar 2009 1:14AM
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Gorgo said...

I can see there being a niche for C kites and if Cabrinha want to make a kite for that market then that's just good business.

I can't see C kites catching on for the mainstream market. Who wants to go back to the days of having to ride a 15-20m kite just to get out on a light wind day.


ive got more power in my 10m c than i see most SLE hybrids have. my 12 is a frikin machine.

Lazarus
160 posts
9 Mar 2009 4:01AM
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Charl dv said...

Gorgo said...

I can see there being a niche for C kites and if Cabrinha want to make a kite for that market then that's just good business.

I can't see C kites catching on for the mainstream market. Who wants to go back to the days of having to ride a 15-20m kite just to get out on a light wind day.


ive got more power in my 10m c than i see most SLE hybrids have. my 12 is a frikin machine.


Can't have that much power if use a 10 and a 12. My biggest kite is a 9 Rev2 (and I weigh 85).
Bar-wise: kept the slingshot bar and I have converted to the Cabrinah system: simpler, cleaner, more robust (esp the depower line which with my ss bar went in 6 weeks).

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
9 Mar 2009 11:21AM
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Personally I can't wait for the new Cabrinah foils in 2011

cabstar
VIC, 328 posts
9 Mar 2009 4:20PM
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i personaly wouldnt buy another cabrinha if you torcherd me

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
9 Mar 2009 2:33PM
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Cabstar,

please mate...it's torture to read your "torcherous" spelling...

Juddy

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
9 Mar 2009 3:18PM
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He has got a 12m because he does powered wakestyle moves. No one can use a 9m as thier lightwind kite for wakestyle no matter what kite it is. Unless of course they just miss labeled it an its really a 12 or 14m haha.

Jp1245
QLD, 4 posts
9 Mar 2009 4:25PM
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Isnt it meant to be more like the bandit, delta shape?

hookworm
VIC, 600 posts
9 Mar 2009 5:53PM
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apparantly van haylen are getting back together with david lee roth and are going to tour australia promoting the "new" cabrina "c" shape kite. And have also re-recorded the track JUMP to go with the killer new promo vid staring Australia's top rider Alex Lewis Hughs who has joined the cabrina team along with fellow rider Sean "happy" Craick to push wake style riding to the limits.

Mattress
NSW, 120 posts
9 Mar 2009 8:08PM
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Some new C kites have very good Low end. One of my mates had a 13m 2009 Fuel this season and he got going in less wind than my 13m Rev2 and we both weight around the same weight. New C kites are just more refined than the ones we used to ride years ago in the days of 18-20m kites.

I for one cant wait to see the reaction from all the local Crossbow riders who have turned their backs on C kites when cabrinha bring out a new c kite. Will they have a go???

ruffryder61
QLD, 470 posts
10 Mar 2009 9:16AM
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Mattress said...

Some new C kites have very good Low end. One of my mates had a 13m 2009 Fuel this season and he got going in less wind than my 13m Rev2 and we both weight around the same weight. New C kites are just more refined than the ones we used to ride years ago in the days of 18-20m kites.

I for one cant wait to see the reaction from all the local Crossbow riders who have turned their backs on C kites when cabrinha bring out a new c kite. Will they have a go???



more c kites on water= more action

its about time that cabrhinas pro team gets a c-kite.. poor guys

juicerider
WA, 790 posts
10 Mar 2009 11:19AM
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Good to see. Cabrinha have a lot to answer for with the introduction of bows

Gorgo
VIC, 5098 posts
10 Mar 2009 1:47PM
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juicerider said...

Good to see. Cabrinha have a lot to answer for with the introduction of bows


Such as?

Hundreds of happy people kiteboarding safely and easily with no real dramas?

A huge expansion in safe conditions people can ride in?

The end of powerlines being taken out on roads behind beaches?

A huge reduction in kiteboarding deaths and serious injuries?

Setting a benchmark for other manufacturers to aim for?

The wholesale introduction of 5th line kites by other manufacturers struggling to keep up?

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
11 Mar 2009 10:54AM
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Gorgo said...


Such as?
Hundreds of happy people kiteboarding safely and easily with no real dramas?
A huge expansion in safe conditions people can ride in?
The end of powerlines being taken out on roads behind beaches?
A huge reduction in kiteboarding deaths and serious injuries?


Really, where do you kite.

I see bow kites providing none of these things.

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
11 Mar 2009 11:20AM
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Gorgo said...



Hundreds of happy people kiteboarding safely and easily with no real dramas?

A huge expansion in safe conditions people can ride in?

keep up?


you might want hundreds more riders at your local, but most people don't

Gorgo
VIC, 5098 posts
11 Mar 2009 1:08PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

Gorgo said...


Such as?
Hundreds of happy people kiteboarding safely and easily with no real dramas?
A huge expansion in safe conditions people can ride in?
The end of powerlines being taken out on roads behind beaches?
A huge reduction in kiteboarding deaths and serious injuries?


Really, where do you kite.

I see bow kites providing none of these things.




We used to see powerlines taken out on an almost weekly basis. Kitepower used to say they visited old folks in the area and reset their videos for them. I haven't seen powerlines clobbered for years. True, C-kites made a start on that with proper balancing but bows nailed it. (Actually I saw a kite end up on a roof the other day. It was a C-kite with a beginner attached.)

I have personally seen guys hauled off the beach and dumped in the water by gusty cross-off winds. Now it never happens and you see beginners trying to kite in any and all conditions.

I've have personally seen guys get hauled off the beach and dragged across the foreshore, across the road, through the powerlines and into the front of houses. It never happens now. Again, C's made a start with proper balancing but bows made it a standard feature of all kites. Just push the bar out and the kite stops.

The other day we were riding bay surf in onshore 30-40 knot winds with kite sizes ranging from 5-9m. All bows, except for one Rebel (which is a bow in all but name and North's grudging response to the Xbow.)

Fuels used to be the single most popular kite in our area. Now it's Switchblades by a long way. Even the hard core Slingshot guys are all riding Revs.

I'm sure kites will progress from where bows are now but the Xbow certainly started the revolution.

BTW. There have been three pivotal kites in kiteboarding history, the Wipika Classic, the Naish AR5 and the Crossbow. All three kites were absolute crap but they opened the door to the next step of development that got us to where we are now.

Gorgo
VIC, 5098 posts
11 Mar 2009 1:14PM
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stamp said...

Gorgo said...



.....

keep up?


you might want hundreds more riders at your local, but most people don't




Good plan. Keep kites crap so that nobody can ride them to keep the gumbies away.

The sea is big and I have the skills to get out and ride by myself. I often ride several km upwind so I have whole beaches all to myself. It's easy if you know how.

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
11 Mar 2009 12:35PM
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We used to see powerlines taken out on an almost weekly basis. Kitepower used to say they visited old folks in the area and reset their videos for them. I haven't seen powerlines clobbered for years. True, C-kites made a start on that with proper balancing but bows nailed it. (Actually I saw a kite end up on a roof the other day. It was a C-kite with a beginner attached.)

I have personally seen guys hauled off the beach and dumped in the water by gusty cross-off winds. Now it never happens and you see beginners trying to kite in any and all conditions.

I've have personally seen guys get hauled off the beach and dragged across the foreshore, across the road, through the powerlines and into the front of houses. It never happens now. Again, C's made a start with proper balancing but bows made it a standard feature of all kites. Just push the bar out and the kite stops.

The other day we were riding bay surf in onshore 30-40 knot winds with kite sizes ranging from 5-9m. All bows, except for one Rebel (which is a bow in all but name and North's grudging response to the Xbow.)

Fuels used to be the single most popular kite in our area. Now it's Switchblades by a long way. Even the hard core Slingshot guys are all riding Revs.

HA HA, come to Melville WA and see the Bow circus. We have one pine tree that only eats Cabrinhas.....the most common kitemare is a bridle tangle to deathloop....Sure bows/hybrids are easier for beginners, but keep it in perspective.



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