Forums > Kitesurfing General

Buying a New Leading Edge Bladder

Reply
Created by xXPmanXx > 9 months ago, 30 Jan 2015
xXPmanXx
WA, 14 posts
30 Jan 2015 10:26PM
Thumbs Up

I Have an 2012 Ikon Peak kite that i brought quite recently and i worked out that the valves on the leading edge are leaking
and i need a replacement
so i was wondering 2 things
1st- Are the Bladders in the Peak 2 compatible with the old Peak
2nd- if not where can i buy bladders in Perth Wa
any help is appreciated Thanks.

beebee
153 posts
31 Jan 2015 10:17AM
Thumbs Up

Are the leaks coming from the adhesion point of the valves to the bladder or somewhere else on the valves? Have you sprayed soapy water on them to see where the point of the leak is?

Can't guarantee it will work - depends on the type of leak - but I just had a damaged bladder. The repair was not done well and air was leaking out through wrinkles
in the patch.

I looked around online and found this stuff - Aqua Seal. It's fantastic. Flexible and strong. Completely airtight. You can get it at scuba dive shops. Costs around 20 bucks.
Worth a try before spending a hundred or two on a new bladder.

Damo
WA, 641 posts
31 Jan 2015 10:46AM
Thumbs Up

Just go and see Bon at KSS in scarbs. He stocks Ikon and i think he even has Benn from Ikon working in his shop a few days a week. if those 2 cant help you then you are beyond help

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
31 Jan 2015 2:21PM
Thumbs Up

Fixing bladders and valves is something most of us have to contend with eventually, and the more you attempt it yourself, instead of forking hundreds on someone else doing it, the more you'll save in future, because i guarantee it will happen time and time again. Kites in some ways are like bicycle tyres. Every cyclist gets a puncture at least once a year or more! And just like a tube inside a tyre or a bicycle wheel, LEI kites require their bladders to be pumped under pressure to a certain PSI, usually up to 7psi. Therefore, kite bladders are prone to punctures and hence leaks.
unfortunately, unlike bicycle tubes, kite bladders are far more delicate, and the valves are prone to moderate heat, meaning they can warp or the glue simply detiriorates allowing air to escape.

The best way to find bladder punctures or valve leaks is to take the entire bladder out, pump the bladder slightly to some pressure and look for the leak using a spray bottle with soapy water.

Once found, mark it with a felt pen and repeat for the entire length of the bladder, until all leaks have been found. A pool helps too but due to the size of the LE bladder, pushing a pumped up one into the water properly takes considerable effort, and it's best done with an assistant.

Once all the holes and leaks have been found, patch the bladder itself using Tear Aid. It works! Very quick and easy. Just make sure you apply the patch flat and evenly. Most repair leaks are from "tunnels" or wrinkles forming under the patch.

Repairing valves is a totally different matter, and it depends on the way the valve is leaking.

Anyway, there are plenty of resources, patch kits, repair kits etc in the market with more detailed instructions. Try them and learn!

snalberski
WA, 858 posts
31 Jan 2015 2:57PM
Thumbs Up

Repairing bladders might appear easy outwardly but the truth is it takes an amount of skill and experience to do it well.Unforeseen things like leaks not being visible unless the bladder is twisted a certain way, and twisted bladders when reinstalled are just a couple of examples. I always dive in and give it a go myself with everything but experience has shown repairing bladders sucks a big one. Other easier options are to get a shop to do it or if the bladder is deteriorating just get a new bladder

Ben - Ikon
WA, 113 posts
31 Jan 2015 3:16PM
Thumbs Up

Hi,

I have a stock a bladder for the PEAK 1st Gen and 2nd Gen.
You can not use bladders replacement between generations as the shape, size and location of valve usually change. That is a general rules for all brands.

Contact me direct and we will fix it for you.

Thanks

Ben

Jim621
WA, 47 posts
31 Jan 2015 4:18PM
Thumbs Up

+1 for trying to repair it yourself.

If its the main inflation valve leaking, most kites usually have a zipper or something close to the valve to make it easy to repair.

Aqua seal as described above can be used to reglue the valve down.


If its all the valves that connect to the struts, then pull the bladder out yourself - just remember to tie a kite line to the opposite end of the bladder, so when you pull the bladder out of the leading edge, the kite line is pulled into the leading edge - you will use this line to reinstall the bladder once repaired.

Id repair all valves even if they aren't all leaking. carefully peel off the other valves (it shouldn't be too hard as they should all be in the same condition unless repaired previously)

pull all the old glue off, rough up the rubber with fine sandpaper, clean the area very well with rubbing alcohol, then apply glue as per recommendations on the packet (some glues recommend gluing both sides and letting cure for 5 mins), then apply pressure to the valve while its drying (ive found 5kg dumbbell weights work well as the hole in the weight fits nicely over the valve).

then once dry check the strength of the repair by gently trying to pull off the patch.

the reinstall.

Steve

xXPmanXx
WA, 14 posts
31 Jan 2015 7:47PM
Thumbs Up

The Leak was on the valve and ive decided to buy a new bladder altogether just to make
easy thanks for the help tho :)

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
31 Jan 2015 8:12PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
boon said...
Hi,

I have a stock a bladder for the PEAK 1st Gen and 2nd Gen.
You can not use bladders replacement between generations as the shape, size and location of valve usually change. That is a general rules for all brands.

Contact me direct and we will fix it for you.

Thanks

Ben


That's service

xXPmanXx
WA, 14 posts
1 Feb 2015 9:16AM
Thumbs Up

Hell yeah it is :)



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Kitesurfing General


"Buying a New Leading Edge Bladder" started by xXPmanXx