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Blast from the past - 23.5 Contra

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Created by Saffer > 9 months ago, 18 Feb 2010
Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Feb 2010 3:45PM
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Got a 2004 23.5 Contra delivered today for fun. Shop display product, kite still crinkly, brand new bar, brand new lines, new pump, etc at a total cost of $50 which I reckon will be fun for the odd light wind days when no one is on the water at St Kilda. Well worth the cost if you just think of the new lines and pump.

Unfortunately I'll be out of kiting until November but its gonna be interesting to take this beast for a run in light wind. Thank god for the electric pump. Who wants the first run? Anyone wanna try F16 this baby?

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harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
18 Feb 2010 4:14PM
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Brand New !!!!! I would say thats a bargain..... lines alone are worth way more than $50

Ioz
WA, 493 posts
18 Feb 2010 1:16PM
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I had a 21m Best Nemesis back in 2005 or so that i use to fly on the Goldy - solid red colour.

Excellent kite, got me out there powered up in 10knts - could still loop it, water start and ride waves with it.

I miss the big kites.

I think there is definatlye a place in the quiver for a 16 - 21m or so.

Using these large kites makes you a better kite flyer as well, as you have to have foresight to know where you want the kite to be in 2 - 4 seconds in advance.

When you get back on your small kites it's feels so easy.

Just about to leave to drive up to kitestock - COWABUNGA

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
18 Feb 2010 1:19PM
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Saffer said...

Got a 2004 23.5 Contra delivered today for fun. Shop display product, kite still crinkly, brand new bar, brand new lines, new pump, etc at a total cost of $50 which I reckon will be fun for the odd light wind days when no one is on the water at St Kilda. Well worth the cost if you just think of the new lines and pump.

Unfortunately I'll be out of kiting until November but its gonna be interesting to take this beast for a run in light wind. Thank god for the electric pump. Who wants the first run? Anyone wanna try F16 this baby?


HAHA Saffer, I have a 21M '04 Nemesis I bought for $100 in the States a few years ago, I've only had it out maybe 3 times. Be prepared for it to sit WELL back in the window and drag you kicking and screaming downwind just after you have enough to get up and planing

Upwind performance will probably be near non existent like the Nemi. They DO make great shade sails on the beach on light wind days though if you can be a**ed blowing the blighters up

Give it a go though, it will REALLY make you appreciate your '08-'10 gear

D

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
18 Feb 2010 1:23PM
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Ioz said...

I had a 21m Best Nemesis back in 2005 or so that i use to fly on the Goldy - solid red colour.

Excellent kite, got me out there powered up in 10knts - could still loop it, water start and ride waves with it.

I miss the big kites.

I think there is definatlye a place in the quiver for a 16 - 21m or so.

Using these large kites makes you a better kite flyer as well, as you have to have foresight to know where you want the kite to be in 2 - 4 seconds in advance.

When you get back on your small kites it's feels so easy.

Just about to leave to drive up to kitestock - COWABUNGA


Haha Ioz, when was the last time you flew it? I think you may have developed a somewhat overly favourable nostalgic view of it I have a 15m '08 SLE that is 10 times better than the '04 Nemi even though it's 6m smaller.

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Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Feb 2010 4:41PM
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D_Meredith79 said...

Saffer said...

Got a 2004 23.5 Contra delivered today for fun. Shop display product, kite still crinkly, brand new bar, brand new lines, new pump, etc at a total cost of $50 which I reckon will be fun for the odd light wind days when no one is on the water at St Kilda. Well worth the cost if you just think of the new lines and pump.

Unfortunately I'll be out of kiting until November but its gonna be interesting to take this beast for a run in light wind. Thank god for the electric pump. Who wants the first run? Anyone wanna try F16 this baby?


HAHA Saffer, I have a 21M '04 Nemesis I bought for $100 in the States a few years ago, I've only had it out maybe 3 times. Be prepared for it to sit WELL back in the window and drag you kicking and screaming downwind just after you have enough to get up and planing

Upwind performance will probably be near non existent like the Nemi. They DO make great shade sails on the beach on light wind days though if you can be a**ed blowing the blighters up

Give it a go though, it will REALLY make you appreciate your '08-'10 gear

D


The irony was I remember trying the 19.5 when it first came out and thinking "wow, this kite is amazing and so fast turning". We were living in a light wind spot that got 8-18 knots most of the time so you need a big piece of sail any time you wanted to get out and our idea of a good session was enough wind to go upwind. Looking forward to some nostalgia when riding this, but at least I know there won't be many people on the water at StK when I'm out with this thing, and if there are, they better give me right of way Isn't there a rule about biggest kite winning?

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
18 Feb 2010 6:15PM
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The 04 contra was a great kite - it was my second kite - I had a 16.5m and the LE was about as thick as my thigh - the first being Cabrinha 12m Nitro. I'd love to get a brand new Nitro crinkly out the bag for $50. If anyone has a brand new Nitro for sale I'll take it off you. Yellow and black preferred but not too fussy.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
18 Feb 2010 6:17PM
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I had a 21 BFK and I have to say the glide on that kite was like no other... sometimes on the way down from a jump I'd extend my legs to touch the water 3 times and it just stayed a foot or so below the board for a stupidly long time. The pumping was what killed it for me though, half an hour later and I'd be done in before I even hit the water.

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
18 Feb 2010 6:18PM
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Ha ha, I see you even got the free Cabrinha stubby cooler that says "Ride Responsibly". I have the one that says - "Don't drink and ride - you might trip a rail" why did they stop the free stubby coolers?

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
18 Feb 2010 6:20PM
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kiteboy dave said...

I had a 21 BFK and I have to say the glide on that kite was like no other... sometimes on the way down from a jump I'd extend my legs to touch the water 3 times and it just stayed a foot or so below the board for a stupidly long time. The pumping was what killed it for me though, half an hour later and I'd be done in before I even hit the water.


Especially when you have to pump each strut up individually and each strut holds about as much air as the leading edge of a modern kite.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Feb 2010 8:01PM
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sunseeker said...
Especially when you have to pump each strut up individually and each strut holds about as much air as the leading edge of a modern kite.


I wouldn't have bought one if I didn't have an electric pump. It can handle 5 kites on one battery, or one 23.5 contra. I may have to start carrying a spare battery now.

ezza
NSW, 561 posts
18 Feb 2010 8:10PM
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A guy I kite with has taken the battery out and hard-wired his electric pump to a cigarette lighter plug. CHAMPION for pumping up the whole crew's kites before a session. Just need to remember to put your car on accessories...



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