Getting tired of the poor winds up here in the tropics. So I was thinking of investing in an 18m Dyno. Have a 12m 2014 Rebel. Already have a 156 textreme Spike, would it be worth investing in a Dyno? Like to hear from those who know. Don't turn this post into a gear review e.g. North vs Ozone vs Naish etc. I know they are slower but I am very keen to get on the water. North Queenslands springtime winds have become an epic fail.
No doubt you will get plenty of " mowing the grass" comments, but if it gets you out on the water rather than looking on hell yeah it's worth it. New skills, relaxing sail on glassy water, love it to throw in the mix. Defiantly think board too though, really is the session saver.
18 metres of dynamite seems a little extreme to destroy a kite, the 156 spike should do the job nicely , if you stick it in the middle or there abouts....
Don't forget to wear a face shield and gloves when you do it, safety first.
Yes, big kites good, park n ride, less height more glide. More pumping though.
/btw you're posting in the wrong place, this is a meeting ground for kiters and poleys, going into the enemy's area and trolling is poor form, but here in neutral ground it's open season. Sub's had a 4/10 effort at getting the ball rolling. 
Yes Kiteboy when I posted the topic it went to the wrong forum. Sub could do better.
wether the zephyr from ozone (dealer is in Paradenla...) the fat lady from blade or the infinity v3... all turn fast (for the size) and defo have power which with your board size will mean 10 knots. the dyno apparently is not great... there are lots of reviews including mine of the fat lady that I own in the review section... Mate I had my doubts but these things work and they are quite good up to the 20 knots...
People who speak of mowing the grass never tried the new generation kites...
these things work a treat for light winds
Yes. do it.
You can get out in winds that others can't. plus in the boring winds when others are just mowing the lawns you are fully powered, jumping and having a blast.
Note. You have to mentally prepare yourself for a more relaxed session in lighter winds. Once you over come the fact that its not a 25 knots and you can have fun then its all good.
Wave at the guys on the beach that don't have a big enough kite/board combo to get out and have fun.
Yep, do it.
I kite in Mackay and have used a 17m Core XR2 with a North Spike and it got me out easily when everyone was standing on the beach.
Tried a backroll which didn't work so mowing the lawn is about all you will get, but it sure beats standing on the beach.
I just had a session yesterday on my 17 with a much smaller twin tip and it was 16-18 kts... I was comfy as a kitten.... Pulling back rolls and boosting.... Great glide on those kites.... Everyone else was on 12 and 10m kites..... Find a big kite with a good wind range and you will be laughing!
You may want to look at the new Airrush Zero Lithium as well. A big kite but turns relatively quickly and is light.
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You may want to look at the new Airrush Zero Lithium as well. A big kite but turns relatively quickly and is light.
I just ordered the Airush Lithium One (16m, one strut). I'm 66kg and want to boost on my 130cm TT in LW days - not just mow the lawn. I'll let you know how I go. There is not a single review on the Web or forums for this kite, so I may be the first person to review it. (But I already love my other Lithium Kites and have no complaints - the wind ranges stated on the Airush website are entirely accurate in my experience...)
On the other hand, the lithium zero is a No strut 18m. There is one review OZY guy in VIC. Easy to find via google.
BUT - Look at the wind range on the Airush website for the 'ZERO' - you only get an extra knot at the low end, but it's Upper end wind range is like 12Knot (vs 16kn for the 16m).
Given my weight, upper wind range is important! My goal is not to test how much I can hold on a LW kite - it's for LW days only, but it is a safety concern and should be for anyone my weight.
I'm not pimping any brands, I'm just wanted to share my story with you as a kindred spirit - I want to be able to progress my freestyle even in light wind. I already have a lawn I can mow and that's in my garden.
I want to boost....
Righto you asked about the dyno 18m. Robbie (puertz) on just did a review on one I am sure. He's been using them for a long time and rides in Darwin so understands your winds better than most. Get in touch with him.
What's your weight and what TTs do you have? That would be two sensible questions to ask before banging on about different kite types.
As most have said though, yes it is worth it for sure. I look forward to getting on my particular 17m as much as my smaller kites.
But yeh weight and what TTs.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/2013-North-Dyno-17m/
Well 17m, but hey he's 120kg, beat that!
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People who speak of mowing the grass never tried the new generation kites...
Awesome to hear -this is what I'm focusing on....
Ps Toby (from Airstyle) replied to a post of mine that he boosts in as low as 15knots on his 18m. He's a mountain of a man cf to me, and he rides a smaller board (128cm vs my 130cm).
He did say that for his weight he prefers 20 kn, but by extension, boosting is thus possible...
DO IT 
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Getting tired of the poor winds up here in the tropics. So I was thinking of investing in an 18m Dyno. Have a 12m 2014 Rebel. Already have a 156 textreme Spike, would it be worth investing in a Dyno? Like to hear from those who know. Don't turn this post into a gear review e.g. North vs Ozone vs Naish etc. I know they are slower but I am very keen to get on the water. North Queenslands springtime winds have become an epic fail.
... yes do it!
The 18m Dyno is a great kite but if I had a complaint with it, it doesn't turn very quickly in the lighter winds but not too much slower than other similar size kites. Fatlady/Infinity V3 style of kites are completely different thinking behind the design brief so are waaay easier to use but also don't have the fantastic static pull that the Dyno has, which makes for fun mowing lawn sessions.
The one thing I am very sure of, the Dyno 18m is fantastic with a TT. My reasoning is that it has a huge leading edge that wants to hold the kite back in the wind window with a nice deep draft that wants to drive upwind, but since the two forces fight each other, this constant opposing forces make it a suuuuuuper stable kite, even for the larger gentlemen like me. Out of the 2 forces, its slightly biased towards upwind so it makes TT riding fun.
The newer version of dyno's and similar race kites are brilliantly faster and fantastic upwind machines but a little more technical when used on a TT compared to the older 18m Dyno. Basically the 18 can be parked and it just drives you along so it doesn't necessarily need to be moved too much anyway so the turning speed isn't such a big deal. Mind you, give it 15 knots plus and it really comes alive, infact the steering gets lighter and kite becomes very lively.
The LE is huge but it also makes the kite super stable when pushed to its limit, holds it shape when other kites have folded and given up.
I reckon if you have a chance to get one, get it! It's really a great kite (loved mine til it blew up) which has the best static power of any kite I've used that actually takes you upwind easily. Sure, I've used some old big flysurfer foils but damn, that thing was waaaaay too slow and only really did one thing well but the Dyno did most things well. In fact, as Eppo mentioned, with my superior weight, I can use it 20 knots with ease and was my go to kite.
If it's cheap, get it and go have some fun, but there are some other cool kites out there too so check them too. Light winds can be fun too!
cheers,
Robbie 
I am running the north dyno 17 and added the north nugget for light wind fun for my dry 100kg's. The north nugget made a huge difference to my lawn mowing fun and upwind ability. Ten to twelve knots and I am off and running.
Depends what wind strength you're talking about? in the 10 knots range I think they are worth it for sure. I still get out on my 17m 05 Fuel from time to time on my twin-tip with boots and I usually have a great time doing tricks. The newer low wind kites like the Zephyr are even better. I'm 80-85kg.
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The 18m Dyno is a great kite.
The newer version of dyno's and similar race kites are brilliantly faster and fantastic upwind machines but a little more technical when used on a TT compared to the older 18m Dyno. Basically the 18 can be parked and it just drives you along so it doesn't necessarily need to be moved too much anyway so the turning speed isn't such a big deal. Mind you, give it 15 knots plus and it really comes alive, infact the steering gets lighter and kite becomes very lively.
I reckon if you have a chance to get one, get it!
Robbie
Select to expand quotehigh as a kite said..Puetz said..
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The 18m Dyno is a great kite.
The newer version of dyno's and similar race kites are brilliantly faster and fantastic upwind machines but a little more technical when used on a TT compared to the older 18m Dyno. Basically the 18 can be parked and it just drives you along so it doesn't necessarily need to be moved too much anyway so the turning speed isn't such a big deal. Mind you, give it 15 knots plus and it really comes alive, infact the steering gets lighter and kite becomes very lively.
I reckon if you have a chance to get one, get it!
Robbie
... does that mean I'm pimp daddy or the kite is??? 
I think the message is clear enough.
Robbie doesn't pimp, he rides and tells what he knows. As honest as you get.
Bizarre a thread where everyone agrees.... big kites are worth it 100% of internet experts agree on this thread.
I do sometimes miss my old Best BFK 21m. LE as thick as my thigh and about 4km long, but it flew beautifully and the glide was like nothing I've come across ever again... I remember once, decent jump in 15kts+, coming down I extended my legs and went to touch the board down to the water 3 times, but I just kept flying along a foot above it... and on... and on... and on... when I did touch down it was the softest transition between air and water I've ever had kiting, so smooth 
The other good thing is about them, is the float and hangtime - so when the wind is right, you can try new tricks or extend your rotations... without getting spanked by a fast, small kite :)
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I think the message is clear enough.
Robbie doesn't pimp, he rides and tells what he knows. As honest as you get.
Don't get to had up about it Eppo, just a joke.
I know the big fella loves is North's. I thought it was funny, maybe not 
Select to expand quotePuetz said..high as a kite said..Puetz said..
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The 18m Dyno is a great kite.
The newer version of dyno's and similar race kites are brilliantly faster and fantastic upwind machines but a little more technical when used on a TT compared to the older 18m Dyno. Basically the 18 can be parked and it just drives you along so it doesn't necessarily need to be moved too much anyway so the turning speed isn't such a big deal. Mind you, give it 15 knots plus and it really comes alive, infact the steering gets lighter and kite becomes very lively.
I reckon if you have a chance to get one, get it!
Robbie
... does that mean I'm pimp daddy or the kite is???
Nah just thought I would stir the pot a bit Robbie. Looks like my sense of humour has dropped a rung or two
Any way I'm glad you have got a replacement and enjoying the stoke.
Thanks, you have convinced me. There is a nice little spot at my local beach that gets 8 - 14 knot NE's in summer. It also has a bar on the beach, frequented by friendly European women, right next to my launch spot.
rather than throwing all that draggy kite at the problem (which gets exponentially worse at getting upwind as they get larger) - try adding just a bit more planing area - look at a flat wide TT or directional / surf board board. Some of the old directionals that can now be had for a song were amazing in light air - i'm talking 8knots on a 12m kite and fanging upwind - and of course the modern raceboards just kill it in light air
Or even better add a larger board AND more kite - but the extra board area gets you more light wind get up and go without the drag consequences.
Big kites and 130cm twin tips are just a bit of a mismatch unfortunately ...
