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Big bar or smaller bar

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Created by Sjotta > 9 months ago, 11 Sep 2016
Sjotta
7 posts
11 Sep 2016 10:00PM
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Hello,

I can buy a 57cm best rp 2014 bar.

I have a 11,5m and 9,5 Kahoona 2013! Is it okay to use the bigger bar om both kites?

Can anyone tell me what the difference would ben if i had a 52cm bar?

Thanks!

Ps couldn't Find this thread. But it probably exists already.

dracop
25 posts
12 Sep 2016 1:15AM
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I would not advise that bar for those kites due to the size. Wider bars will splay out the canopy of the kite by forcing the wings open, causing the kite to fly strange. My general experience has been to use bars 52cm+ for kites in the 12m+ range, 47-52cm for kites in the 8m-12m range, and 47cm or smaller for kites smaller than 8m.

Keep in mind the line split on the rear lines is being magnified as you go higher up the lines, so you need a wide enough canopy to handle that.

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
12 Sep 2016 9:11AM
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^^ Good old seabreeze advise
The bigger bar will just make the kite turn quicker. Shouldn't be a problem for the 11.5 but may make the 9 a bit quick for your taste. If you prefer the feel of a shorter bar you can usually take the bar ends off and cut the bar down to suit.

Plummet
4862 posts
12 Sep 2016 9:14AM
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dracop said..
Wider bars will splay out the canopy of the kite by forcing the wings open, causing the kite to fly strange.



I'm gona call boolarks to that statement!... unless you are using stupid short lines it will make no difference what so ever if the bar is 40 or 60cm wide to the kite shape!

What it does change is the impact to the turning input you put into the kite. Ie smaller bar give less turning input larger bar more.

I run one bar size 50cm from 13m to 6m for my kites.

Short answer is yes it will work. The kites mind be a little more reactive. I see no disadvantage on using bigger bars for smaller kites (apart from the physical size might be annoying) if you can handle the faster response the bigger bar gives you.

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
12 Sep 2016 11:16AM
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Girls always talk about how they prefer a big bar
But really
A small bar is just as good when you know how to use it

Adam'KiteRepair
NSW, 331 posts
12 Sep 2016 3:18PM
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CLASSIC!^^^ to the ladies comment. Lol
big Bar wont effect the canopy layout, just the turning speed, however the front line Y position can alter the way a kite flys depending on bridle design. A 57 on a 9m will be a bit hectic but you would get used to it after a few sessions.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1896 posts
12 Sep 2016 4:28PM
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You could just buy a longer bar with back line connection points on both inside n outside for both sizes

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
12 Sep 2016 6:20PM
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Same bar size, change your line lengths if you want some adaptability.

smaller bar on a small wave kite you want to slow down for serious in the pocket stuff, yeh maybe.

Plummet
4862 posts
12 Sep 2016 8:36PM
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eppo said..


smaller bar on a small wave kite you want to slow down for serious in the pocket stuff, yeh maybe.


I always prefer as fast as fark in the waves. The faster the better. 50cm bar on 6m kite.... mucho speedy.
But if your used to big ass kite 6m on biggish bar is like an angry wasp!. But I like angry wasp speed.

Sjotta
7 posts
13 Sep 2016 4:32PM
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Okay! Thanks For all the info. I'm beginner to intermediate, so i would like to ride with the right stuff. Experimenting is something For later on. Will look For a little bit smaller bar, 52cm.

Could please give me one last bit of advice. which kite has a better lowend, cabrinha switchblade or Kahoona?
Lets compare 12m sb with 11,5m Kahoona! Thanks

Sjotta
7 posts
13 Sep 2016 4:46PM
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Sorry, one more question!

Could i use a airush universal bar on my best Kahoona kites instead of a best rp bar?

kernal
WA, 541 posts
13 Sep 2016 8:40PM
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Sjotta said...
Sorry, one more question!

Could i use a airush universal bar on my best Kahoona kites instead of a best rp bar?


Let us know how it goes :-)

warwickl
NSW, 2353 posts
14 Sep 2016 9:01AM
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theDoctor, please advise how to use a small bar so it has the advantages/benefits of a big bar, thanks

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
14 Sep 2016 1:26PM
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Big bar short lines for small waves because not much time between bottom turn to top turn. Big waves longer lines smaller bar because you don't want the kite hunting the edge of the window.



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