I have a board for the flat water freestyle sessions that I like but I want to get more out of the days on the ocean with all the mushy chop here in Perth, a good all rounder free-ride board I guess for those days so I can throw in a bit of every thing and cut though the chop nicer.
I've tried a Airush switch, cardboards FR, Airush protoy, vanhunks manakel, and a Carved board. I think the manakel does the best in the chop but I am keen to try out some thing else because I reckon there would be some thing better.
The switch was my first board and is a big one I use this for the light wind days now and the Manakel I use for the flats.
I have a feeling Shinn should be on my demo list from what I have seen going around here recently, but what one should I try? + any other recommendations for my test list.
85kegs throw me some recommendations thanks
in perth and i have just moved from a 136x39 cardboards FR to a 136X44 shinn monk . like chalk and cheese or go kart to bmw m5 .
wish i had of done this sooner .
no sore knees now , no spray in the face , super smooth ride through chop , farken fast , nice comfy footpads
100 kegs
Agreed the monk and dundee must be on your list.
Two boards I'd like to add in order of priority:
1. A crazy fly Raptor Pro Ltd (carbon version) my brother rides a 136*41 and it is the only board he can ride without giving him ankle pains after a major accident when he was a child made his leg grow on a weird angle. Only prob that jet black carbon colour looks great but is bloody hard to find in the water!
2. If you want to get right out there a 150 Mako, but that's got its own strange characteristics.
If you have a board you are happy with for your freestyling then Id definitely reco a demo of the Dundee for waves/chop.
The Monk does it extremely well anywhere but its higher performance build really shines on the flat leaving the Dundee as the 'GoTo' if its always to be chop & waves.
Wont match the stiff, high rocker boards built for freestyle but unbelievably smooth, comfortable, no face spray (ever), and at least as much performance as your average high end Xover type boards.
At 85kgs Id suggest trying the 133x42 first up. May be a tad small - personal preference, kites & conditions apply here. If you like a smaller board the 133 will probably do it for you. But you could go the 135x44 if you want a bit more bottom end and more surface area on the wave.
133 Dundee available to demo anytime Cauncy doesnt have it !!!!!
Monk 134x42 pretty much anytime. Still an option if you want the added performance, speed etc in the rougher water.
Select to expand quoteJuddy said..
at 100 kegs Dusta, who's been eating too many d!cks mate??? 
i would have asked you but i wanted a meal not a canape 
Select to expand quotedusta said..Juddy said..
at 100 kegs Dusta, who's been eating too many d!cks mate???
i would have asked you but i wanted a meal not a canape
Dusta, it's interesting to know you've been checking me out, thanks (I think) but you're not my type mate. 
give the liquid force LFX ago really smooth though the chop and no spray while still able to muck around on or do freestyle
ha ha this got messy quick.
Any ways I will definitely drop in puppet to arrange a demo when its free.
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ha ha this got messy quick.
Any ways I will definitely drop in puppet to arrange a demo when its free.
you talking about it getting messy and you're talking about dropping in puppet ?
Dood
sick
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I have a board for the flat water freestyle sessions that I like but I want to get more out of the days on the ocean with all the mushy chop here in Perth, a good all rounder free-ride board I guess for those days so I can throw in a bit of every thing and cut though the chop nicer.
I've tried a Airush switch, cardboards FR, Airush protoy, vanhunks manakel, and a Carved board. I think the manakel does the best in the chop but I am keen to try out some thing else because I reckon there would be some thing better.
The switch was my first board and is a big one I use this for the light wind days now and the Manakel I use for the flats.
I have a feeling Shinn should be on my demo list from what I have seen going around here recently, but what one should I try? + any other recommendations for my test list.
85kegs throw me some recommendations thanks
Try the xenon lalux nice board, also the fyboard radical sweet board, crazyfly raptor wicked, north x ride pretty darn good, then the is the shinn monk, its the dogs bollocks thats been shaved making them extra smooth
Eppo / Cauncy / Puppet
Can you elaborate on Dundee vs Mako 150 ? I have a Slingshot Crisis, it was the TT I learnt on, and being a Scarborough local, it sits unused in the shed for most of the season as the surfboard gets priority and I hate getting sprayed in the face. I don't know much about TT'S but have ridden a Mako 150 with the small fins and have to say it was pretty sweet for the smaller days. I'm thinking of exchanging the Crisis for something more suited to our local conditions (over to you Puppet, to complement the FS Unity 12 you have on order), but don't quite know what to go for. Is a Dundee going to be that much different to my current ride ? I was thinking of a Mako King to be honest.
Me first it seems...
Firstly, heaps of reviews on these two boards so make sure you read them.
Dundee is my fav of the shinn line up for carving, smooth riding at lower to mid speeds (and fast but it gives good feedback even at those speeds) real tactile with a lot of feedback to the rider, although I am spewing I have never got on a Super Shinn now they have discontinued it and replaced it with the ultrasonic (and by all my readings is completely different and has no more monk feel to it, why? Who bloody knows, why wouldn't you keep as much monk as you could is beyond me..oh well I digress).
I'm sure cauncy will elaborate on the monk if he feels the need.
For real surf carving...as close as you can get to not being on a SB, the mako is my experience is the best. The Dundee is awesome but it is a traditional TT in every sense and after a while as with all Tts you will get that back leg burn if you are going down the line etc. but if you just want to hoon around and take some short waves and jump a stuff...more in the freeride vein then the Dundee is better.
The king is an even better carver than the 150, even closer to a SB feel and bloody good strapless, but man its so damn heavy. If you do jump it, don't go crazy or you might start pulling intercostal muscles like I did.
Another thing, the mako has none, zilch, nada flex. So even though the huge concave and rocker gives you an awesome smooth ride (although some say that can feel a little dead/dull and is some respects they are right) especially between say wave sets, in the real choppy stuff, like crazy choppy sht, that lack of flex can be a pain. Come down from height hard, and say you have redirected wrong and haven't put in a loop to soften the blow it can hurt.
Also to add to this, the mako is not a great load, pop and booster, the back end squirrels out at high load at speed (this can be reduced with technique a bit and having mutant fins in), but the Dundee will offer you much better load, pop and boost potential for true freeriding. That being said you can still jump well enough on the makos, but nothing like a Traditonal TT. Some have argued in other places it is a technique thing, but fck technique I just wanna ride. Gotta be easy or fck off in my opinion.
So do you want to 'surf' in a more traditional sense on a what is essentially a weird looking TT, or do you want to carve, freeride, play around in the waves etc, then the Dundee. Remember the Dundee will also be good on super flat days to....just saying....
What is sure you are looking at two great boards. Me, I'd keep the SB for Surfing and the Dundee for everything else. Spray in the face is not synonymous with any of the shinn boards I have used. That mako, none whatsoever as you can adopt a more upright stance as the rail engages earlier with little heel pressure due to the huge concave. If no spray is paramount than the mako wins here, but hey who doesn't like to be sprayed in the face now and then...
That's what she said...
As eppo so eloquently explains the Dundee & the Mako are very different boards.
In my experience everyone appreciates the Shinns for all they deliver. Truly amazing boards.
The Makos are far more of a personal preference thing. For some its love at 1st sight (or ride) - others not impressed at all.
It all comes down to what you like in a board & what it is you want it for.
Why not come in & grab both for a back-to-back trial. Only have a 140 Mako right now - new delivery about a week away - but all the Shinns are pretty much available anytime.
we got some demo xenon laluz in perth. if anybody is keen to try. the best board for choppy conditions i have ridden.
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I have a board for the flat water freestyle sessions that I like but I want to get more out of the days on the ocean with all the mushy chop here in Perth, a good all rounder free-ride board I guess for those days so I can throw in a bit of every thing and cut though the chop nicer.
I've tried a Airush switch, cardboards FR, Airush protoy, vanhunks manakel, and a Carved board. I think the manakel does the best in the chop but I am keen to try out some thing else because I reckon there would be some thing better.
The switch was my first board and is a big one I use this for the light wind days now and the Manakel I use for the flats.
I have a feeling Shinn should be on my demo list from what I have seen going around here recently, but what one should I try? + any other recommendations for my test list.
85kegs throw me some recommendations thanks
found the Nobile nhp good due to the width... 137x42
Yeh the NHP is a good option to, been on that board, also allows a mean loading edge for going big.
Probably the best board for Perths choppy mush, not probably, but fact is this one:
www.sugarqube.com.au/index.php/kiteboards/twin-tip
its designed in Perth for just those conditions, I dont mind pimping if its true
Liquid force LFX, I got one recently and it is an awesome board and super versatile. Medium rocker, Soft flex, super light, grind base for hitting rails, kickers or great white sharks also designed to take boots if you like that stuff. 138 x 42 would be my pick.
Demo some of the suggestions in some proper wind driven chop , imo a good rocker with plentiful flex is a must, might sound a bit strange but kite type and position can make a big difference in chop, a high aspect kite ridden powered parked at 10.30 outgoing and 2oclock incoming reduces the effect of chop, compared to a lesser powered kite flown lower,all the shinn range offer a smooth ride , I've been riding and passing the dundee around in variose conditions and carnt report anything negative, bloody sweet ride
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we got some demo xenon laluz in perth. if anybody is keen to try. the best board for choppy conditions i have ridden.
I to have found the laluz a great board in the chop, so with the shinn boards, nobile etc etc you would have to add this to your demoing range for sure. Make sure you get on the 135, to me that is the sweet size. It also serves as a really forgiving freestyle board on the flats with some excellent pop, sounds contradictory but somehow it works. Really elegant and simple design hey. Stick some Naish apex straps on it and you'll be in heaven (well on any of those boards).
I've been on most of the boards mentioned and they are all great.
In the wise words of WOK 'they are just boards in the end'. He rarely says much about gear, but when he does I tend to listen.
So spend the time finding one that suites you specifically and it would be great if you could report back to help out others.
Sorry forgot to mention, put your pads and straps on the demo boards that way you'll get a true feel
