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Ban Sanz Petition

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Created by sandgroper > 9 months ago, 8 Apr 2009
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sandgroper
WA, 368 posts
8 Apr 2009 12:57AM
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To the Administrator and Moderators of the Website Council of the SeaBreeze Forum in WorldWideWeb assembled.

We, the underposted, being your humble forum members, humbly and respectfully petition you, our noble e-Squire and Breeze-meister, that the account of the Username "Alex Sanz" be banned and banished, excommunicated and expelled, forthwith and forever, from the forum that we cherish and love, to wit: "KiteSurfing - General".

We seek this for reasons that have already been articulated by many in recent posts on said forum, and which reasons have been further evidence by the person in question himself, by virtue of his:
1. misrepresenting kiting practices known to be dangerous as being safe
2. misrepresenting kiting practices known to be dangerous as "new sports"
3. admonishing critics of those dangerous practices as lacking courage
4. falsifying or otherwise omitting facts in respect of his own injuries incurred while himself performing said dangerous kiting practices
5. advocating to newcomers to the sport that they engage in kiting practices known to be dangerous with reckless and negligent disregard for their safety
6. promoting his personal business in videos and more generally leading readers to those videos via his posts.

We are concerned that the user "Alex Sanz" wastes the time of many good members who feel compelled to debunk and expose "Alex Sanz"'s posts, the great majority of which posts are devised to promote dangerous practices. Unless "Alex Sanz" is banned from this forum, the SeaBreeze Forum will continue to be used by "Alex Sanz" to procure persons for his commercial business as an instructor, whether or not a qualified instructor, via video posts featuring a business name, whether on not a registered business name. This therefore breaches the Forum rules, and the nature of the breach is so gross and flagrant as to warrant immediate and permanent banning from the SeaBreeze Forum.

And your petitioners as in duty bound, will ever pray.


NOTE: Please signify your signature to this petition by posting a reply. If you don't agree don't post ' cos we'll be looking at the number of replies, not what you say in them.

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
8 Apr 2009 9:50AM
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addendum... mr fatmans with big sticks (forum moderators), let it be known with notice, the ever so good and honorable theDoctor has forthwith lodged for your consideration, on behalf of all red thumbed peoples of seabreeze, a motion of addendum for sandgroper to the above list to be banned from said forums for being such an obvious knob

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:27AM
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here here I vote for groper also.

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:33AM
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I vote ban Groper, Alex is way more entertaining.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
8 Apr 2009 8:33AM
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Chris_M
2132 posts
8 Apr 2009 8:34AM
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Sandgroper, while you are trying to ban him from seabreeze, you might also want to remember to ban him from your treehouse, sitting next to you at playtime, or touching your lego.

You are a childish F_#k. Go make yourself useful on the dungeons and dragons forum you cheezel eating poindexter

Alex sanz
NSW, 106 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:36AM
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You guys act like children,

why make it personal?? It's a forum .. I don't like you, actually I think very low of you.

But all I want to do is talk about kites. why is it so hard for you to do the same.

try something new, keep it just on kites?? lots of people enjoy my videos and they want more..

Your getting really boring.

I'm getting to the stage where I realize that there are more tools on seabreaze forum the nice people. Even if I chose not to participate I will still be in you face.

I have so much video of kitesports .. I'll make sure that your thinking of me all the time.. Thats my gift to you...

love it in you brain so much space!!




Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:54AM
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Alex has begun to reveal enough of himself for many to see what he's like. So banning may be unnecessary as many people know his agenda and loose interpretation of facts. I totally agree however that his posts are for publicity/ advertising/ stimulating his own ego and note that its my interpretation that if not a sponsor, he shouldn't be promoting his business here.

Groper however does seem judgmental about the safety of things he doesn't do. night kiting, land-boarding etc. Anything can become reasonably safe with the right surrounding circumstances. You just need to assess things before doing them to have a decent idea of the risks involved.

As for groper claiming he's not scared, just concerned for his safety...... Its best I think, that you do what you think is safe for you and let others do the same assuming there's no laws against it and you aren't putting others at risk without their informed consent.

Summation:
Alex stop advertising.
Groper, try some new things or let others. Its not your job to save us all from our selves.

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:58AM
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Alex sanz said...

You guys act like children,

why make it personal?? It's a forum .. I don't like you, actually I think very low of you.





Hmmm. hahaha

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
8 Apr 2009 11:00AM
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Alex sanz said...

You guys act like children,

why make it personal?? It's a forum .. I don't like you, actually I think very low of you.

But all I want to do is talk about kites. why is it so hard for you to do the same.

try something new, keep it just on kites?? lots of people enjoy my videos and they want more..

Your getting really boring.

I'm getting to the stage where I realize that there are more tools on seabreaze forum the nice people. Even if I chose not to participate I will still be in you face.

I have so much video of kitesports .. I'll make sure that your thinking of me all the time.. Thats my gift to you...

love it in you brain so much space!!







See!!! Way more entertaining, good onya Alex you Aussie legend!!!!!

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
8 Apr 2009 9:08AM
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Gorgo
VIC, 5101 posts
8 Apr 2009 11:08AM
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I agree, ban Sandgroper. What an arsehole.

We should also ban anybody who calls for bans on anybody ...

milko
NSW, 604 posts
8 Apr 2009 11:09AM
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Chris_M said...

Sandgroper, while you are trying to ban him from seabreeze, you might also want to remember to ban him from your treehouse, sitting next to you at playtime, or touching your lego.

You are a childish F_#k. Go make yourself useful on the dungeons and dragons forum you cheezel eating poindexter


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GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
8 Apr 2009 11:17AM
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Funny thing is though, in groper's first post you could replace Alex's name with at least 10 other forum users I can think of off the top of my head, who all could be accused of the same sorts of things.

Besides, Laurie has outsourced the forum banning offshore, now this bloke does it:


Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:56AM
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theDoctor said...


addendum... mr fatmans with big sticks (forum moderators), let it be known with notice, the ever so good and honorable theDoctor has forthwith lodged for your consideration, on behalf of all red thumbed peoples of seabreeze, a motion of addendum for sandgroper to the above list to be banned from said forums for being such an obvious knob


I vote for instant dismissal of S.Groper, effective immediately.

laurie
WA, 3858 posts
8 Apr 2009 9:53AM
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Viva la forum!

What I really enjoy about this forum is that it is everybodies forum. I don't have much to add to what's been said.

Here's an interesting perspective for those who like statistics.

All the "thumb votes" are totalled up (+1 for green, -1 for red). Each member can cast only one vote per post.

In the lead for the "Most Unpopular by Count of Votes" is Mr Sanz
Leading the "Most Unpopular by Count of Unique Voters" is Mr Groper

And of course our good friends surfingboye & Kiting Casey are right up there alongside them.

On a positive note, Poor Relative will be stoked to know he is the leader for both "Most Popular by Count of Votes" and "Most Popular by Count of Unique Voters".

Well done Poor Relative for bring plenty of laughs to the forum (especially when its all getting a bit serious)

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
8 Apr 2009 9:59AM
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Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Apr 2009 12:02PM
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laurie said...

Viva la forum!

On a positive note, Poor Relative will be stoked to know he is the leader for both "Most Popular by Count of Votes" and "Most Popular by Count of Unique Voters".

Well done Poor Relative for bring plenty of laughs to the forum (especially when its all getting a bit serious)


So what you're saying, is Poor Relative is the kind of politician that smoked marajuana but didn't inhale it

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
8 Apr 2009 12:08PM
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nevermind he's got about 5000 posts more than everyone else



...... lets ban him

SammyJ
WA, 570 posts
8 Apr 2009 10:08AM
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Paul1 said...

I vote ban Groper, Alex is way more entertaining.


I'm with paul.

Would you rather come on here and read Gropers gripes about nightkiting or Alex stirring all the East coasters up.

If you don't like it don't read it!!

If he's just doing it for publicity then he's no different to the rest of the pimps on here

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
8 Apr 2009 1:00PM
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Alex sanz said...

lots of people enjoy my videos and they want more..



lol...... Who would that be???? Mate your vids are about as much fun as watching paint dry!

milko
NSW, 604 posts
8 Apr 2009 1:17PM
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theDoctor said...

nevermind he's got about 5000 posts more than everyone else



...... lets ban him


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sebol
WA, 753 posts
8 Apr 2009 12:01PM
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Yep, i 'll go against sandgroper too
Ban him

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
8 Apr 2009 12:10PM
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Oh - all this time I hadn't realised Rellie wasn't being serious.. must be all those vegies he ate.

After all there is nuthin funnier than a vegie propelled bum grenade.


My 2c (geez I go through some coin on this site) is, Alex is a bit of a tool but I can't believe how many folks get riled and actually bite when he posts.

Try this: See a post started by Mr Alex? Then don't give it another thought and move on to the next thread.. easy Or get really angsty and write all kinds of nasty cr@p directed at him (which usually makes you look almost as big a tool) and then take copious laxatives, your choice.


BTW you should apply this same technique to Groper's posts (if they bother you).

Personally I don't mind having a differing opinion aired from Groper now and then. At least he is not just trying to drawn attention to himself and stoopid stunts. Er.. perhaps this thread is an exception though.

Alternatively we could all don khaki Mao suits and fall in line with no dissention or honest opinions allowed. More plain rice and warm water anyone?

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
8 Apr 2009 3:49PM
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I'm warning you funky, when I want your opinion I'll dictate it to you.

hookworm
VIC, 600 posts
8 Apr 2009 4:16PM
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no way should alex be banned doesn't bag people or actually do anything wrong on this forum except entertain us all keep up the good work alex. But i am upset you dont drive the veggi bus any more now who's bus are we going to shake at mambo till a mad alex comes out in his speedos he he

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
8 Apr 2009 6:45PM
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laurie said...

In the lead for the "Most Unpopular by Count of Votes" is Mr Sanz
Leading the "Most Unpopular by Count of Unique Voters" is Mr Groper


Feature request for the forums - can we get that data in a pie chart please?

Maybe update the data once a day or so, that would tell us who the tribe votes for...

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
8 Apr 2009 7:35PM
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I've got a pie chart for you.

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
8 Apr 2009 5:40PM
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All this banning talk reminds me of some local minority ratepayers of Melville or mullaloo......NOOOOOOO, are we sinking to their level????




"NOTE: Please signify your signature to this petition by posting a reply. If you don't agree don't post ' cos we'll be looking at the number of replies, not what you say in them."
OOPS I broke the rules......... BTW who is we.......that's a pisser

P.S. remember to vote against daylight savings so we make sandy happy, what a trippy-tarka............

slitepower
NT, 23 posts
8 Apr 2009 7:15PM
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Leave Mr Sanz alone if we ban him from seabreeze then who are we going to pay out on.Remember he was the pioneer of kitesurfing in Australia LOL.
As for poor reli keep up the good work.
As for sandgoper we should ban him as you are not as enetertaining as Mr Sanz on seabreeze.
Got love seabreeze it so full of **** just like me.

surfingboye
NSW, 2707 posts
8 Apr 2009 7:51PM
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laurie said...

Viva la forum!

And of course our good friends surfingboye & Kiting Casey are right up there alongside them.


that cant be true. surfingboye has only been around for a month or two. plus he has made some positive contributions, even they get red-thumbed.

PS: i say we should replace the red thumb, with an orange thumb. less harsh when i see them on my posts.



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