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Are you a kitesurfing terrorist?

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Created by laurie > 9 months ago, 10 Mar 2008
laurie
WA, 3858 posts
10 Mar 2008 2:32PM
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Just got this item sent to us via the Feedback page:




I love watching kite surfers-I am a surfer, and would love to learn sometime.I watched a mate --- ------- who now rides kites also, and was ripping up my home break 'seconds at cottesloe' yesterday - he was a gentleman and kept out of the way of surfers who were out there.

I was teaching a Dutch friend to surf...However I would like to complain about the behaviour of a kiter-a large, bald man with a german accent, in black rashie/boardies, witha grey kite/pink rimming was not-He was very dangerous and nearly ran me over twice despite being asked to be careful.

He is making a bad name for your exciting, new and potentially very dangerous sport. It's future depends on these early days - and the surfing community is worth keeping onside with given their establishment in this area.

If you can please help to keep this behaviour under control so that we can all use the ocean together, safely i would be much obliged. This is not the first time I have been 'terriorised' by kite surfers in perth-that may sound dramatic, but I don't like high tensile wire being hung over my neck at the best of times, let alone by someone I don't know who is happy to put my safety at risk while they squeeze another few metres out of their run, or hit that nice bit of wave-at someone elses expense.

Please note surfers are banned, fairly or unfairly as it may be, from many beaches for safety reasons and this at times is hard to contend with, but is the way it is here in this popular coastal area.

I hope I don't have to write any further complaints but will if required-next time it will be the newspapers. Thank you

au_rick
WA, 752 posts
10 Mar 2008 3:26PM
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Laurie,

maybe a hook knife stashed in your leggie's key pouch will help get the point across if anyone ditches their kite too close ??

meerkat
WA, 644 posts
10 Mar 2008 3:58PM
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sadly this isn't just isolated to Cottesloe. Having watched the increasing number of "heroes" getting closer and closer to swimmers at my local beach, sometimes between the flags.

Watched a bunch of idiots yesterday at secret harbour high fiving and woop wooping themselves as they did tricks really close to the shore whilst swerving amongst swimmers, how unbelievably stupid can you be!!

They were truely heroic with their tripod, photo session and big chest posturing.

Funny thing is i mentioned the problem of the fisherman, their burley and the shark problem to one of my neighbours last night(he is on the local council/lifesaver organisation) and he told me that that isn't going to be a problem much longer as they have a possible kiting ban on their next agenda.

So all i can say is many thanks to the really really cool people who MUST kite through swimmers, well done!! Thing is i can't blame the local council/organisations for wanting a ban and i reckon if it came to a vote i would actually vote FOR the ban, my wife and daughter were almost cleaned up by a learner who launched upwind!!!! of the flags and if a ban is the only way to keep them safe then so be it.

We all moan about this and that, but reality is we are wrecking the sport for ourselves.

laurie
WA, 3858 posts
10 Mar 2008 4:20PM
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au_rick said...

Laurie,
maybe a hook knife stashed in your leggie's key pouch will help get the point across if anyone ditches their kite too close ??


.. it wasn't me .. this was an email someone sent in via the feedback page. Personally, I like space and will travel up/down our awesome coast to avoid congestion & being around swimmers.

rattman
QLD, 49 posts
10 Mar 2008 6:08PM
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Must be crazy down in the more populated area. Lucky up where I am no one goes swimming in the open ocean so it pretty much free range for kites.

But I did have an interesting conversation a member of the water police, he says there are discussion paper going around police/government about changing the laws about recreational boat license or PWC license to include any water craft that is not human powered (ie beach cats, windsurfers and kites). As well as making infringment actual affect your drivers license. So being a bad boy/girl means you could be walking or catching the bus

Its actually an interesting concept, a bit sucky to start with but could actually work in the long run.

atomic
WA, 94 posts
10 Mar 2008 5:43PM
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If I see someone matching the description I will call the terrorist hotline + put on gas mask

qfmike737
QLD, 398 posts
10 Mar 2008 9:33PM
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Jihad

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
10 Mar 2008 9:32PM
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Kite went RIGHT in front of a car yesterday at melville. The car had to emergency stop....after repeated warnings not to jump too close......
New guy, just in from France. It's easy to give advice to locals but the blow ins will be one of the most compelling factors in getting local beaches banned.

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
10 Mar 2008 11:14PM
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I am the terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, tee ee ar ar o ar ist the terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist.

I got some surveilance footage I think the leader of the organisation is Andre Phillip.

coreyb
WA, 463 posts
10 Mar 2008 10:06PM
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It can be very hard to keep kiters and swimmers apart. Beachgoers come down see all the pretty kites and go for a look. Then they decide that they might go for a swim, right where the kiters and coming in.

Best part is after they drift down and out of danger, they walk back up and go for another dip.

Im sure if we were all like Meerkat, we would simply just keep moving away and making sure there is no other water user in sight. Its a good policy, please start today.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Mar 2008 12:17AM
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I hope this doesn't all end in a fatality, if the councils had any brains they would insist on 3rd party insurance for kiters, and then signpost designated kiting areas, with warnings to non kiters, which also reduce a kiter's exposure to liability if something goes wrong.

The reverse could occur for kiters who ride in non-designated areas, this could say, result in a invalidation of insurance.

I know it sounds a bit fun police like but its better to be told where you definitely can ride rather than being told you can't ride anywhere!

sebol
WA, 753 posts
10 Mar 2008 11:50PM
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No one will stop me from going downwind!!!!
I will stay away from the beach as required but if you attempt to prevent us from traveling distances down the cost and box us in a designated area then you can count me in the terrorist team.
What is it again, you advocate compulsory insurance, compulsary lessons with IKO,compulsory membership in the local association, a registration sticker, quick release, defined riding areas, maybe we should all wear a gaff helmet too?
Maybe we should all ride compulsory 9 foot malibus as if you have an accident they are much easier to paddle back to the coast.
I am the first one to believe that we should restrain ourselves from bothering any other water user , The safety police is just getting a bit overzealous and setting up all the bull**** rules will not affect the incidents with idiots anyway as they are the one who ignore rules in any case.
There would be at least 50 times more accidents with surfers and no one would dare to attempt to ban them from the water
Why ,because they stand up for themselves( i am part of a surfboard riding club),they refuse bull**** and they will eventually punch up any idiot who doesn't respect the established order.
Peace

mikemike
2 posts
10 Mar 2008 11:57PM
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Those kite surfers were killing it at Secret Harbour yesterday, I loved watching them and I think all the swimmers were enjoying it too.
It was to windy for me to kite yesterday but I think I had much more fun watching them than trying to kite, all I usually get to do is watch the same boring kite surfers. I live in Secret Harbour and I would love to see more kite surfers like those guys yestreday, you all welcome.
The banks are really good at the moment, not only that you get to kite with dolphins.
p.s. next time kite a litttle further south and everyone will be happy.
p.p.s lets have kite stock at Secret Harbour next year.

Jimmyz
NSW, 446 posts
11 Mar 2008 2:01AM
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Man that would suck if they did ban it, especially if it's not locals who are to blame .

Question: How close is too close?

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
11 Mar 2008 5:11AM
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We must all play a part which would include having a 'friendly' word to anyone not kiting responsibly - more people doing this would contribute to safety 'in numbers'!

meerkat
WA, 644 posts
11 Mar 2008 12:52PM
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ha ha, you guys are very funny and clever too!

My point is that the beach area at secret harbour is only crowded at the lifesavers carpark, right where the lifesavers setup, right where the flags and 90% of the people swim/surf etc.

There are carparks either side(2min drive) that are for surfers and such like. You will get maybe 5 or 6 people swimming in these areas as opposed to the 300 odd right opposite the lifesavers car park.

Its common sense to kite where there are slightly less people. Yes people are going to come and watch, and thats great(so is having lots of kiters) but to setup and launch right at the flags amongst all the little kids just so you don't have to drive 2min(or a 5min walk) is pretty selfish. Have a think about.

glen moora
WA, 44 posts
11 Mar 2008 2:50PM
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I agree Meerkat, Mike Mike and his mates love a crowd. You see them traveling the coast just looking for spectators. Even the big sharks traveling down from mandurah, they love a crowd.

coreyb
WA, 463 posts
11 Mar 2008 4:27PM
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From the stories I hear, if you park anywhere but right in front of the kiosk at Secret Harbour your car will be given a broken window in short time.

The last time I was down that way, the amount of glass in the 'surfers' carpark seems to give creedence to the stories.

stanhalen
WA, 187 posts
11 Mar 2008 5:28PM
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I've been kite surfing at Guantanamo Bay for the last 4 years recently back in
Aus, sorry didn't mean to cause any offence.

D. Hicks

waterbaby76
WA, 7 posts
11 Mar 2008 6:47PM
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coreyb said...

From the stories I hear, if you park anywhere but right in front of the kiosk at Secret Harbour your car will be given a broken window in short time.

The last time I was down that way, the amount of glass in the 'surfers' carpark seems to give creedence to the stories.



Never had a problem, but then again they know my car belongs to a local from the hours on end it sits there while I surf and kite.

Their not stupid, they watch from the dunes and know your gone for at least an hour.

Biagro
WA, 178 posts
11 Mar 2008 10:25PM
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i'm glad i have the good old Australind estuary, the only thing you gota watch out for is the crabs

qfmike737
QLD, 398 posts
12 Mar 2008 12:00AM
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Politely tell swimmers that you have seen some nasty jellyfish floating around and show genuince concern. It works everytime.



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