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7m Kite for beginner in South-West Region?

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Created by Bugaloo93 > 9 months ago, 24 Aug 2011
Bugaloo93
WA, 4 posts
24 Aug 2011 1:25PM
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Hey Guys, i like to start kitesurfing and could get 7m Kite with 100% Depower for a few coins.
Is a 7m a good choice to learn kitsurfing in Margaret River/Busselton/Augusta.
I´m 73kg. Thanks for your anwers...

Surfy31
WA, 198 posts
24 Aug 2011 1:36PM
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hey mate,
i weigh 70kgs and live in perth although i get down south more often than not. in summer you could get away with just a 7m certainly. the typical seabreeze should see you nicely powered.
whats the kite your buying? are you planning to ride on a surfboard or twintip?

enjoy

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
24 Aug 2011 8:39PM
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Bugaloo93 said...

Hey Guys, i like to start kitesurfing and could get 7m Kite with 100% Depower for a few coins.
Is a 7m a good choice to learn kitsurfing in Margaret River/Busselton/Augusta.
I´m 73kg. Thanks for your anwers...


What Brand, year, etc for the 7m? 7m kites have vastly different wind ranges. A 2007 7m fuel is gutless, a 7.5m Kahoona or a 6m switchblade will need a lot less wind to fly in. Its not about the size but the type of kite. As a beginner the thing you want is it to relaunch easily, are less than 3 years old,have a big wind range and stability, and a safety system that you know blindfolded and works 100% of the time. Ive taught guys who can get up and ride upwind, and they buy a piece of crap and wonder why they cant kitesurf anymore.
UV and sand greatly diminish a kite's strength, beginners crash kites hard, and not just on water.
At 73 kgs add another 3 knots to the bottom end and subtract 8 knots to the upper end. Kite wind ranges are for and 80-85 kg rider.
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/About-Buying-Second-Hand-kites_3539609.aspx

Dan Fletcher
NSW, 114 posts
24 Aug 2011 11:53PM
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Bugaloo93 said...

...100% Depower...


Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is NO such thing as 100% depower.
Most kites have decent windranges these days, but don't be conned into thinking that some kites have 100% depower.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1896 posts
25 Aug 2011 10:38AM
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dude

as a beginner save up the coin and go a 9m with easy relaunch
I doubt that youll have the skill, to make full use of a 7s power for a while and just end up struggling too much... park & ride will be the most fun per coin value for maybe 1-2 seasons.

Regardless of what people say - the wind is not as constant in strength as you may think, and no point watchin everyone else rippin it up !!! Im sure you wont need a down the line wave kite just yet perhaps

Be patient grasshopper and when you find a kite you think is suitable - repost on here and see what the experienced been there/ done that people say... It will save you a lot of wasted learning time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plummet
4862 posts
25 Aug 2011 10:52AM
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^^^ what he said. 7m is too small. 9 or 10m for a 1 kite quiver.

Bugaloo93
WA, 4 posts
25 Aug 2011 1:16PM
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Thanks for the answers.

The Kite is a 7m North 2010 Rebel for $350 incl. Bar and Bag.
I thought it´s alright for summers seabreeze.

Thanks for the 9/10m idea as a first kite.
I plan to start with a twintip board.

Does someone know a qualified teacher in the south west?
I´m not really interestet in spending $220 for 2hrs.


dusta
WA, 2940 posts
25 Aug 2011 1:41PM
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Bugaloo93 said...




Does someone know a qualified teacher in the south west?
I´m not really interestet in spending $220 for 2hrs.





i will wait with anticipation in reading about how some ****ing retard has wrapped himself around a pole then . All the best

toddws
WA, 469 posts
25 Aug 2011 2:58PM
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Maybe you should just list the kite in the buy and sell, because the accident you cause might prevent you from typing an ad at a later date so you can sell it.

For a small amount of coin, $220, you will learn all the safety stuff that will keep you employed and out of hospital, save your gear, and prevent you from hurting other beach users or fellow kiters.

Nobody goes out their way to help out someone who hasn't done the right thing.
So when your a km off shore with no board wondering how to self rescue don't be surprised when everyone gives you a wide berth!

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
25 Aug 2011 3:59PM
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^^^^treat the $220 as an invenstment in your gear, your time and your life. "would you try and fly a helicopter without lessons?" Shannon Best. Beginners are brutal with kites and crash em hard. If you dont take everyones advice, youll need this: HOLD THE LINE KITES, Neil Taylor, Cambridge St Wembly, he does kite repairs.

Plummet
4862 posts
25 Aug 2011 4:46PM
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Ive got to say $220 seems damn expensive for 2 hours. i'd expect at least 4hours for that amount.

Bugaloo93
WA, 4 posts
25 Aug 2011 5:30PM
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Plummet said...

Ive got to say $220 seems damn expensive for 2 hours. i'd expect at least 4hours for that amount.


Thats what i reckon... I can get it for 150 in Perth. It´s not my plan to start kitsurfing without a good amount of lessons.I´m not that crazy. But it´s good to see that the guys out there are worried about me. Thanks for that.

Can someone help me now with my question: 7m North Rebel for $350 for a beginner in the south west??? I´am looking for a 9m slinshot rpm too
Again--> 73kg

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1896 posts
25 Aug 2011 6:41PM
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Boogaloo

Now we all know, by stating that you are ...73kg... again

that as a Noob - you are worried that a 9+ maybe toooooooo powerful and send you off deathlooping into the Sunset or carpark

My friend is 45kg and she uses a 6m... and said htfu fat bastard but in a nice way because your new lol

after lessons youll understand
have fun

woodys
WA, 218 posts
25 Aug 2011 6:57PM
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My 2c worth.
No to either option.
The North rebel is an awesome buy at that price but not really a beginner kite. Nor is the RPM. Both great kites for those who know how to get them performing but as a beginner they will slow your progress.
And definitely not a 7M - at your weight 9/10ths of what isnt working for you will be the small kite. And as a beginner you will not know what parts are the 9/10ths and what bits are the 1/10th.
Go bigger - when its windy enough for your 7 it'll be too windy learn.

inside grunt
WA, 72 posts
25 Aug 2011 7:35PM
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Bugaloo, I'm the same weight, I live in the southwest, learnt on a 7m north, no worries. Go for it, but get some lessons, even from a mate that knows his stuff, then spend the $220 on thankyou beers!

iankite
VIC, 47 posts
25 Aug 2011 10:33PM
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Kite classes was the best thing ive done it...again..and again until i managed to get up and sort of running...2 hour lesson its enough for u to understand the wind and how the kite flys but to really have a feel of the sport u need a got 7 hours....to also do some self rescue with someone that know..get all your questions answered...much easier to progress if u proper learn the basics..at the end of the day stop being so tight and spend some money in something that u gonna love it....3 weeks without go to the pub and u will be kiting...them prepare yourself because 1 kite its not enough...not even 2 ...

stoked
WA, 23 posts
25 Aug 2011 10:10PM
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Dude do the lessons ! ! ! As said previous it will keep you employed and out of hospital. Also it will save you hours of frustration. If your really lucky and pick it up super fast you might only need 2 hours. As for kite size, where and when are planning to learn ? Augusta margs in summer you need 7m or even 6m. I have seen guys heavier than you flying 6m and not so often even 5's. Busso you want 10m +, prob 12. I highly recommend you go with simon at Margaret river kite and wind surfing, a great guy and good instructor. He will get you on the water as fast as you can manage. I did lessons with simon, money well spent I reckon. Think of it as insurance. Good luck !

Zeph
WA, 21 posts
26 Aug 2011 12:42AM
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7m is the perfect size for the sou west.......
pm if you wanna hook up for some informal lessons in the sou west
but just hit augusta and australind in the summer and Duns in th e winter
Z

default
WA, 1255 posts
26 Aug 2011 9:40AM
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look for a 9.

I've learned with all purchases no matter the product - dont buy something just because its cheap. You end up spending twice as much to get it right again.

Im 73kg with a few seasons under my belt. I dont ride twinny very often but when I do its usually on a 10 (no 9 in this particular kite) and that serves me for a vast range of wind and I dont have to worry about being under-powered. Nothing more frustrating as a learner, as being under-powered = no progress.

A 7 is a good kite for the sou-west...but when riding a surfboard.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
26 Aug 2011 1:12PM
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Get your lessons first then buy the gear. Who knows, you might be one of those strange people that finds that they don't actually like kitesurfiing! Why waste $1000 on gear before that?

$200-300 for lessons will save you a lot of heartache in the future, especially where you are based as there aren't perfect beginners spots where you can easily recover. You need to be riding at a reasonable standard before you go off solo.

- Augusta on the flat side has you ending up over the river in the trees if things go wrong.
- Margs - you can't learn there and an experienced local will probably cut your lines for trying.
- Busselton might be better I have no personal experience.

I'll give you a little anecdote as to the value of lessons. A friend of mine bought gear a couple of years ago and was given very rudimentary lessons by a friend. He is a good surfer/snowboarder/skater and so you would expect he would have no dramas progressing. However, because he had not had decent lessons he really struggled and lost interest. We were on holiday in Mauritius recently and he forked out 200 euro for private lessons for 4 hours. By the end of the 4 hours he was riding upwind. He said it was the best money he had ever spent and wished he had done it sooner.

I would say every hour of lessons is worth 4 hours of self teaching. It's not that kitesufing is super difficult, it's just when someone is watching you they can quickly rectify any problems you are having and give you pointers. Don't expect too much from your fellow kiters - on a good day they will be too concerned with getting out there themselves!

Bugaloo93
WA, 4 posts
31 Aug 2011 7:05PM
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Thanks a lot for all your advise!!! That was really helpful!!

I bought the kite, harness, bar and lines for $350. Just seemed like a really good deal. I'll see how it works and will buy a bigger kite after i've got lessons.
I will get lessons this or next week. The teacher is waiting for the right wind.

Thanks again




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