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5knts no worries

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Created by INTHELOOP > 9 months ago, 17 Mar 2014
INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
17 Mar 2014 12:57PM
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good fun in marginal winds.


This is not another bull**** 5knts claim vid, it really works on Chrono and Kitefoil Australia Hydrofoil just don't crash the kite ;)

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
17 Mar 2014 4:26PM
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those hydrofoils might be wa's answer to shark culling

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
17 Mar 2014 3:58PM
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THE DONG said..

those hydrofoils might be wa's answer to shark culling


Dude i think they are actually attracting bigger predators. Something was biting my foil the other day, i cld feel it having a few bites at it while i was foiling.

I also sliced a Barra last week but had nowhere to put it and carry home plus there was a load of blood so i decided to leave the scene

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
17 Mar 2014 5:22PM
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Looks like dolphins can be dangerous too: Surfer injured by dolphin in waves off NSW south coast www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/man-injured-by-dolphin-while-surfing-off-nsw-south-coast/5325876

WA might start culling them too, just in case anyone might get hurt by one?

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
17 Mar 2014 2:35PM
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How big is that kite? Does it come with its own postcode?

fingerbone
NSW, 921 posts
17 Mar 2014 8:43PM
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yawn

Calvin6m
WA, 77 posts
17 Mar 2014 5:56PM
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Didn't think 5knots could lift any kite.

Ercorn
QLD, 199 posts
17 Mar 2014 9:22PM
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fingerbone said..

yawn


Double yawn, watching paint dry is an exciting alternative.

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
17 Mar 2014 9:49PM
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Ercorn said..

fingerbone said..

yawn


Double yawn, watching paint dry is an exciting alternative.


yea and you can have a sniff

terminal
1421 posts
17 Mar 2014 8:09PM
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Allowing a very generous 3 times the wind speed for board speed, you shouldn't be doing more than 15 knots.

It looked like you were somewhere in the region of 15 knots.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
17 Mar 2014 9:16PM
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INTHELOOP said..



Thanks for the lawn mowing vid. ^^^

Awesome.

lol.

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
18 Mar 2014 8:12AM
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will try some waveslave like deadmans but until then lawn mowing for days

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
18 Mar 2014 8:18AM
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terminal said..

Allowing a very generous 3 times the wind speed for board speed, you shouldn't be doing more than 15 knots.

It looked like you were somewhere in the region of 15 knots.


hey mate,
not sure about speed as I didn't take my fon to GPS, probably should have to get rescued in likely case of crashing kite in middle of bay.

15knts is most likely in the ballpark. In these marginal conditions you can almost go faster upwind than on a reach and downwind. The Chrono likes being leaned against.

The hardest thing is changing direction as you loose apparent speed which increases the risk of line slack.

Guttorm
9 posts
18 Mar 2014 3:53PM
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Nice kite, but the wind is not 5 but 6-8 knots.
I have seen a 55 kg woman foiling with a 16m Elf kite in 5-6 knots.
85kg in 5 knots no way.

JohnnoKeys
WA, 551 posts
18 Mar 2014 4:37PM
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Marv sweet vid- Lawn-mowing at its best in sweet northern Queenslend

I'm 95kg and on 19m edge with 30m lines I was foiling on perfectly flat water 2 weeks ago in 5 to 10 knots and dropped out to 3knots to 8knots of wind for the last 15 minutes - If I dropped a tack or gybe the kite would fall immediately from sky and only way to save it was to kite loop kite to save it and pump kite back up to 12 o'clock and prey for another small gust - the only reason kite was falling out of sky was the weight of the 19m was heaver than lift from airflow over kite. - when up foiling I was going up wind easy at 12/15knots and down wind on gusts 18/ 20 easy in-fact on a couple of runs I was ****ting myself as I was going super deep and very fast. 3 kiter guys were on shore watching me for 3/4 hour on dusk and could not believe I was having such a blast and were amazed - the water was totally glassy at the end of session & I was still powered on foil to I stepped off at beach -

IMO on a 18m foil this would have been sublime kiting country as the very light foil would just keep flying and not fall out of the sky. A 19m edge will fly perfectly all day overhead in 5knots but if fly to 45degrees it will fall out of sky unless you kite loop it back up to 12 o'clock

P.S only attempt in shallow ish water on a lake or river when its not to far to swim in if you drop kite in the water.

P.P.S Can,t say I'm a huge fan of foiling yet - but the challenge is to learn how to ride this farken thing drives me on

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
18 Mar 2014 4:46PM
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How does going upwind on a foil work? I wouldnt think there'd be enough rail in the water to get a good enough edge.

Is it hard work/takes ages to learn, or pretty easy to do?

AndyHansen
WA, 278 posts
18 Mar 2014 4:50PM
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Dawn Patrol said..

How does going upwind on a foil work? I wouldnt think there'd be enough rail in the water to get a good enough edge.

Is it hard work/takes ages to learn, or pretty easy to do?


On the race boards we running 3 x +40cm fins on our boards and do pretty well upwind.
Then a foil comes screaming past doing twice the speed and at a much greater upwind angle, unreal how efficient they are!!
Head down to Melville the foil fleet is growing steadily

Lambie
QLD, 742 posts
18 Mar 2014 8:12PM
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Looks pretty impressive - but isn't this family /and or fishing time?? - or I could get the electric lawn mower out and cut the grass ............LOL

pilotpete
WA, 147 posts
18 Mar 2014 6:28PM
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This looks to be in the same wind conditions Very Very lite

terminal
1421 posts
18 Mar 2014 6:43PM
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That's the thing about light winds - a single knot can matter.

7 knots of wind has twice the power of 5 knots of wind. Wind power is proportional to the wind squared.

5x5= 25

7x7= 49

I think its a law of diminishing returns once you go below 8 knots. You could be getting a lot of swimming practice.

64 49 36 25 16 9 4

8 7 6 5 4 3 2

I have seen a claim of kiting in 2 knots of wind.

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
18 Mar 2014 8:48PM
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Lambie said..

Looks pretty impressive - but isn't this family /and or fishing time?? - or I could get the electric lawn mower out and cut the grass ............LOL


you fully right. 5knts is that little wind that you cannot fly a kite standing on beach not even a superb foil kite like the Chrono. To make it work you have to be moving and that quickly, double the windspeed at least.
That day it wouldn't have been possible on a twin tip. So yea if 5knts go fishing or lawn mowing for sure.

However, i wanted to demonstrate that it is possible mainly due to the amazing apparent speed the Chrono creates.

Once you got 7-8knts and more with a kite like the Chrono you can be fully moving and having fun no doubt. 6knts is the cut off and 5 knots or less is not really happening, not for long anyways

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
19 Mar 2014 6:26PM
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pilotpete said..

This looks to be in the same wind conditions Very Very lite


Damn 70 m lines wtf ...looks smooth and easy though

swinginginthewind
WA, 281 posts
19 Mar 2014 9:54PM
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pilotpete said..

This looks to be in the same wind conditions Very Very lite


Its Dale Stanton's French cousin....



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