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2011 Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton Race

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Created by WAKSA > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2011
pinkee
WA, 27 posts
16 Dec 2011 9:07AM
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I heard that the wind window was 15-25. outside of this and the race is postponed/delayed/cancelled.

hence why they chose to postpone on the 3rd.

could be wrong though.

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
16 Dec 2011 12:02PM
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only a panzy would not kite 25knots

I'd love it pshing 30, but thats just me.

austin
671 posts
16 Dec 2011 10:05AM
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race should go on regardless, look at Wedge this wasn't put off and the wind was ****ty.
15knots is plenty, will weed out the skilled riders from the rest,

bene313
WA, 1347 posts
16 Dec 2011 11:33AM
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Weta said...

BOM 16.12.2011 4:30am 4Cast

Sunday: S/SE winds 13/18 knots tending S/SW 20/25 knots during the afternoon.




That is not what their marine chart says:

www.bom.gov.au/marine/wind.shtml

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:39PM
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Looks like it could work, I reckon I'd be on my 17 if I was going to be there though.

SugarQube
WA, 490 posts
16 Dec 2011 12:44PM
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I recon its all in the board, as the race wont be held sub 15knots, your better off with a 12-13m and fast board.

Kat
WA, 145 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:15PM
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If you race at 230pm choose a larger kite - from my experience it is 100% better to be over powered coming into Leightons rather then expecting the wind to pick up as the day goes on...

Last year I made this mistake, and didn't see the cloud come in over gauge roads once I'd been out there around the 30min mark. Needless to say everyone was telling me use your 9m and once that cloud came in a killed the wind I was struggling to stay up wind. Wish I had gone with my gut and just ridden 12m with my 128tt, D'oh. Lesson learnt - you will only be on the water for a few minutes so even if it does pick up your finished and there is someone to catch your kite - go large and go fast

Just quielty I have my money on Saheed (apologies for incorrect spelling) !!!
Bring it home my friend - no pressure - but Hamish and I believe the title is YOURS!!

Kat
WA, 145 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:16PM
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Puppet on string - you not racing this year either?
I didn't apply but now the day is coming up wish I had lol

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:25PM
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Underoath said...

only a panzy would not kite 25knots

I'd love it pshing 30, but thats just me.

I don't think you would be saying that if you were on the rescue boat

specimen
WA, 221 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:41PM
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Bags are packed as well. Surfboard and Twin tip, 10.5 and a 16m kite should do the trick. Off to the terminal to drop the gear off.
Stay Casual MO FO's

Neptune
WA, 189 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:50PM
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What kind of entertainment can I expect at Leighton on sunday? I'm considering going out there and having a look but if the wind is blasting... maybe I should just go out kiting myself somewhere else hey

tightlines
WA, 3502 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:52PM
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Kat said...

If you race at 230pm choose a larger kite - from my experience it is 100% better to be over powered coming into Leightons rather then expecting the wind to pick up as the day goes on...Last year I made this mistake, and didn't see the cloud come in over gauge roads once I'd been out there around the 30min mark. Needless to say everyone was telling me use your 9m and once that cloud came in a killed the wind I was struggling to stay up wind. Wish I had gone with my gut and just ridden 12m with my 128tt, D'oh. Lesson learnt - you will only be on the water for a few minutes so even if it does pick up your finished and there is someone to catch your kite - go large and go fast


Are you basing this experience from the one day last year though?
I also went with a 9 last year expecting the wind to pick up and was struggling for the last couple of K's.
I have done the crossing hundreds of times in a boat though and if you look at the averages throughout the summer you will see that generally the wind increases quite considerably throughout the afternoon.
Think carefully before going too large IMO.

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
16 Dec 2011 3:54PM
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TurtleHunter said...

Underoath said...

only a panzy would not kite 25knots

I'd love it pshing 30, but thats just me.

I don't think you would be saying that if you were on the rescue boat



They may get sea sick, true.

But from a kiters perspective if you cant ride 30knots then you shouldnt really be in the race.

A word of advice if your using a twin tip, move your foot straps closer so you get greater flex out of your TT ends. Less chance of catching ocean swell.

I moved my pads further apart due to a rusted bolt and found landing jumps more comfortable, however I caught swell more often on semi fast runs.


GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
16 Dec 2011 4:05PM
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Underoath said...



But from a kiters perspective if you cant ride 30knots then you shouldnt really be in the race.



On a brief tangent, if you can't ride comfortably in 30 knots, don't do the Kitestock Epic Downwinders. That would be a good rule of thumb that might have sorted the sheep from the goats in 2010.

Neptune
WA, 189 posts
16 Dec 2011 2:08PM
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tightlines said...

Kat said...

If you race at 230pm choose a larger kite - from my experience it is 100% better to be over powered coming into Leightons rather then expecting the wind to pick up as the day goes on...Last year I made this mistake, and didn't see the cloud come in over gauge roads once I'd been out there around the 30min mark. Needless to say everyone was telling me use your 9m and once that cloud came in a killed the wind I was struggling to stay up wind. Wish I had gone with my gut and just ridden 12m with my 128tt, D'oh. Lesson learnt - you will only be on the water for a few minutes so even if it does pick up your finished and there is someone to catch your kite - go large and go fast


Are you basing this experience from the one day last year though?
I also went with a 9 last year expecting the wind to pick up and was struggling for the last couple of K's.
I have done the crossing hundreds of times in a boat though and if you look at the averages throughout the summer you will see that generally the wind increases quite considerably throughout the afternoon.
Think carefully before going too large IMO.


I guess girls just tend to like it large haha

no offence Kat

WAKSA
WA, 813 posts
16 Dec 2011 2:44PM
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GreenPat said...

Underoath said...



But from a kiters perspective if you cant ride 30knots then you shouldnt really be in the race.



On a brief tangent, if you can't ride comfortably in 30 knots, don't do the Kitestock Epic Downwinders. That would be a good rule of thumb that might have sorted the sheep from the goats in 2010.



On an entirely different tangent to this thread but directly relevant to GP's comment above, there will be a NEW, shorter distance downwinder @ KS 2012, this time heading NORTH....

As a shorter distance DW, it's aimed at newer kiters and will be held either Thursday 26th or Friday 27th Jan...hopefully we can have goats and sheep in this DW

stay tuned for more details on that one....

ianmac
WA, 267 posts
16 Dec 2011 4:14PM
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specimen said...

Bags are packed as well. Surfboard and Twin tip, 10.5 and a 16m kite should do the trick. Off to the terminal to drop the gear off.
Stay Casual MO FO's


im with you Spec, gear is down there ready to go i am way keen, keep everthing crossed so we might scam another couple of knots on the way over
who ever is in it enjoy the day and good luck.
see ya there

Joe Cron
NSW, 450 posts
16 Dec 2011 8:03PM
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Underoath said...

only a panzy would not kite 25knots


25 knots is where it begins for me.

Put up a small, fast kite and go for it.[}:)]

No holes in the power, or diving the kite, park it and go!!!

Go as fast as the surface allows, then check the wake thrown ..-phat!!

Santa, if you don't bring me a 25kn day soon, I'm not going to believe in you anymore. (And I'll call you a complete bastard too )

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
16 Dec 2011 5:06PM
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DOH looking worse & worse.
I still have my 17M Speed Flysurfer

And Yes Kat I am in again

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
16 Dec 2011 5:19PM
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I'm hoping for light calm conditions.
13 to 18kn sub 1m swell and 1.5 m seas. Perfect :-)

Or 25-30kn and 4m swell with 2m seas.

Somehow I reckon light.

What's johnno packing?

mickeeH
WA, 71 posts
16 Dec 2011 11:02PM
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No need for an old school kite day, plenty of people dragging them out from the back of the shed in l2l.

Reckon a flysurfer will take it. :)

Weta
WA, 893 posts
17 Dec 2011 7:34AM
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Sunday: S/SE winds 13/18 knots tending S/SW 20/25 knots during the afternoon.
Seas rising to 2.0m. Swell to 1.0m.

Rising Sea S/SW 20/25 [}:)]

My 2 cents; delay the start until SB really kicks in 3:30-4pm

iti
QLD, 417 posts
17 Dec 2011 11:03AM
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lets see tomorrow , if its 20-25 knts how many people have packed a small enough kite? i still recond 13-18

Sibbo V3
VIC, 110 posts
17 Dec 2011 12:44PM
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iti said...

lets see tomorrow , if its 20-25 knts how many people have packed a small enough kite? i still recond 13-18


My thinking is -If you can't use a 12 in 25knots why would you put your name in the draw? If it got to 30 there could be a comedic moments over the 19kms.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
17 Dec 2011 10:47AM
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Troll said...

If it got to 30 there could be a comedic moments over the 19kms.


Indeed - the same could be said if it were light.

ianmac
WA, 267 posts
17 Dec 2011 11:33AM
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some very conflicting reports S Brze 12 knots. Wind guru 13 kn

But I like BOM report below


but I have a feeling it will be a lightish wind day


BOM
Sunday: S/SE winds 13/18 knots tending S/SW 20/25 knots during the afternoon.
Seas rising to 2.0m. Swell to 1.0m.
Monday: S/SE winds 10/15 knots. Winds tending S/SW 15/20 knots during the
afternoon, reaching 20/25 knots offshore.

the gibbo
WA, 776 posts
17 Dec 2011 12:16PM
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i think we are all missing the point its not about who's got the biggest one, or is it

fver
WA, 453 posts
17 Dec 2011 12:46PM
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poor relative said...

Troll said...

If it got to 30 there could be a comedic moments over the 19kms.


Indeed - the same could be said if it were light.


PR,

... everyone would finish at City Beach

kiter2007
WA, 102 posts
17 Dec 2011 2:20PM
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Has anyone asked if WAKSA will sent us back to mainland if the wind doesnt arrive. Or we need to purchase tickets! If tomorrow is anything like today we are doomed!

Sibbo V3
VIC, 110 posts
17 Dec 2011 5:30PM
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