Tossing up options for next season wondering how the fuel 13m fuel performs, I'll have 9 and 7 fuels also and ride mainly wakestyle but not sure if I'll get the slack I need riding a 12 Rpm and thinking bottom end would be similar with a 13 fuel.
ive always found any model of kite has that same feel in the mid range ie 9 , 10 its when you step up or down ie 6 or 13 you get a very different performance than your used to, sometimes for the better and worse, sam light looks pretty good on the rpms though
have you looked at the Razor? 5 line but mental in 13m from what i have seen, otherwise 14m RPM looks good and seems tohave been redisgned if the slingshot hype is to be believed... i guess comes back to what you want to do vs skill level etc. andy yates shreds on a 14m c4 in a video on here somewhere.
Getting off 2012 C4's can get fuels a lot cheaper. Love my 7 m fuel I already have and expect my 9 I just bought to slack better than the ozone. Just want to know if the 13m slacks well and is a good kite compared to a 12 C4.
Started landing a few blind judges on my smaller kites but found it hard on my 12. Need all the help I can get.
Want to keep to slingshot I think seeing as I'll already have 7 and 9.
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Getting off 2012 C4's can get fuels a lot cheaper. Love my 7 m fuel I already have and expect my 9 I just bought to slack better than the ozone. Just want to know if the 13m slacks well and is a good kite compared to a 12 C4.
Started landing a few blind judges on my smaller kites but found it hard on my 12. Need all the help I can get.
Want to keep to slingshot I think seeing as I'll already have 7 and 9.
love the feuls but have changed a few years back to the rpm's..... still think the feul in the 7m is good, with my weight I like the 12m rpm the 2014 r really good and also fly the 10m that is the snichtzles, 13m feul is a bit big I prefer the bigger kites with bridles as it helps them turn a bit more quicker to generate apperant wind , my thoughts 
Thanks Gary, I'm still not decided between the two just want to make a good decision. Nothing worse than riding a kite for a season you're not that happy with.
I'm mainly a park and ride guy especially on my bigger kites and will be running a 45cm bar so apparent wind fir me is not required but low end pull is. But a 13 fuel has to pull harder than a 12 C4
For what its worth - I've just jumped off 2012 C4's to 2014 RPM's. I have 8, 10 & 12m. Same sizes I had with the C4's.
I haven't had a lot of time on the RPM's (lack of wind 
), but so far have found the wind range pretty much the same as my old C4's. So may give you an idea as what to expect power wise. I actually find my old C4's to slack marginally more than the RPM's (do feel some pull in the air with the RPM) but the RPM is more stable when unhooked. It needs more input to turn than the 2012 C4 and has a good solid reliable feeling to it. Sorry, I havent tried the Fuel but hear the slack line is much more noticeable than the RPM.
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[br]Tossing up options for next season wondering how the fuel 13m fuel performs, I'll have 9 and 7 fuels also and ride mainly wakestyle but not sure if I'll get the slack I need riding a 12 Rpm and thinking bottom end would be similar with a 13 fuel.
I ride my rpm on wakestyle setting. Only started doing it since i got the 2014 model dont know why i never tried it before but yeh you definetly get more slack in wakestyle setting, probably not as much as a fuel tho but way more than on the freeride setting.
The RPM is good for sure. Great all around kite. The fact is any C without bridles is going to slack way more than anything with bridles. The reason you're having trouble with BS 180s on your big kite is technique not the kit itself. You have to adjust to doing movements slower and more powerfully on a big kite. You have more time so use it! It's easy to pass the bar on a 9m if you spin super quickly. On a big kite you need to go into the trick as fast as you possibly can, use the air time it can give you by popping higher, and then pull that bar to your hip. You'll learn to love your big kites! I'd go for the Fuel if wakestyle is your game.
