This kiteboarder in story not doing the sport any favours.
www.9news.com.au/national/2017/12/26/15/21/surfers-criticised-for-failing-to-help-man-that-drowned?app=applenews
Just watched the report and quite frankly been around long enough not to judge on a news report especially one partially fuelled by a "social media "personality. Tragic - absolutely but how do we know if the person had the skill or ability to assist.
Just saying: Don't be in a hurry to cast the first stone.
Agree that one should be carefull to draw conclusions from the 9 news crap. However skills cannot be into the equation, one can always ditch their gear, priority is to try and save a life.
Select to expand quotemikey100 said..
This kiteboarder in story not doing the sport any favours.
www.9news.com.au/national/2017/12/26/15/21/surfers-criticised-for-failing-to-help-man-that-drowned?app=applenews
My patrol responded to this call. Thankfully for me I didn't go. Iv seen my fair share of tragedy already. we are having a pretty hard time up here at the moment. What I can tell you, is that conditions were very tough that day. I'm sure there were alot of novice surfers in the water who would not have been able to help. And if I had to take a guess, it sounds like the kiter was rubber necking. pretty human response. Dbah isnt a super easy beach to kite and I wouldnt advise just anyone attempting a rescue there. Iys a small beach with a rock headland and rock wall either side.
Lifeguards and Lifesavers have to put our opinions aside, but General public do not. Sounds like these kids tempers are a bit hot in the aftermath of tragedy. It's not easy pulling an absent life from the water. You spend a long time after trying to figure out what you could have done better and how it could have been avoided.
Stay between the flags please! Unless your kiting then stay away...
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Agree that one should be carefull to draw conclusions from the 9 news crap. However skills cannot be into the equation, one can always ditch their gear, priority is to try and save a life.
skills always can mate. They must be. So many people die trying to save others. Please consider your response mate, you may be one hell of a water man but that doesn't mean others are. Most kiters are not equipped to keep themselves alive.
Sad day for some folks up our way. Why this loud mouther attention seeking "social media" business person has singled out a kitesurfer is a mystery.
Does loud mouth social media tool even kite himself? Does he have any idea of how difficult it is to rescue a panicking person, and possibly an already unconscious person and fly a kite? Of course not, this is just his lame attempt to get some of the drug he craves - attention.
Shame on him to use the death of another person to vilify a kiter he does not know and who he has no idea of their skills or the winds and what was even possible. Shame on Channel 9 again for reporting sensationalism.
Select to expand quoteAdam'KiteRepair said..Woott said..
Agree that one should be carefull to draw conclusions from the 9 news crap. However skills cannot be into the equation, one can always ditch their gear, priority is to try and save a life.
skills always can mate. They must be. So many people die trying to save others. Please consider your response mate, you may be one hell of a water man but that doesn't mean others are. Most kiters are not equipped to keep themselves alive.
Yeah see your point, fair enough. Guess it is an individuals choice. I do not think I would be able to look in the mirror if I left somebody drown without trying everything in my power. Lets hope I never find out.
Select to expand quoteOzone Kites Aus said..
Sad day for some folks up our way. Why this loud mouther attention seeking "social media" business person has singled out a kitesurfer is a mystery.
Does loud mouth social media tool even kite himself? Does he have any idea of how difficult it is to rescue a panicking person, and possibly an already unconscious person and fly a kite? Of course not, this is just his lame attempt to get some of the drug he craves - attention.
Shame on him to use the death of another person to vilify a kiter he does not know and who he has no idea of their skills or the winds and what was even possible. Shame on Channel 9 again for reporting sensationalism.
Common sense dictates that if you can't assist somebody in distress then you should stay out of the way of those that are able and trying to assist. That was the point made that seems to have been missed.
Select to expand quoteOzone Kites Aus said..
Sad day for some folks up our way. Why this loud mouther attention seeking "social media" business person has singled out a kitesurfer is a mystery.
Does loud mouth social media tool even kite himself? Does he have any idea of how difficult it is to rescue a panicking person, and possibly an already unconscious person and fly a kite? Of course not, this is just his lame attempt to get some of the drug he craves - attention.
Shame on him to use the death of another person to vilify a kiter he does not know and who he has no idea of their skills or the winds and what was even possible. Shame on Channel 9 again for reporting sensationalism.
hero complex we call it...
Select to expand quoteGonebush said..Ozone Kites Aus said..
Sad day for some folks up our way. Why this loud mouther attention seeking "social media" business person has singled out a kitesurfer is a mystery.
Does loud mouth social media tool even kite himself? Does he have any idea of how difficult it is to rescue a panicking person, and possibly an already unconscious person and fly a kite? Of course not, this is just his lame attempt to get some of the drug he craves - attention.
Shame on him to use the death of another person to vilify a kiter he does not know and who he has no idea of their skills or the winds and what was even possible. Shame on Channel 9 again for reporting sensationalism.
Common sense dictates that if you can't assist somebody in distress then you should stay out of the way of those that are able and trying to assist. That was the point made that seems to have been missed.
yes. that's how I read his complaint of the kiter. Ozone point is that he shouldn't be blasting off on social media to glorify his own involvement. Do much of that sort of thing happends
Select to expand quoteWoott said..Adam'KiteRepair said..Woott said..
Agree that one should be carefull to draw conclusions from the 9 news crap. However skills cannot be into the equation, one can always ditch their gear, priority is to try and save a life.
skills always can mate. They must be. So many people die trying to save others. Please consider your response mate, you may be one hell of a water man but that doesn't mean others are. Most kiters are not equipped to keep themselves alive.
Yeah see your point, fair enough. Guess it is an individuals choice. I do not think I would be able to look in the mirror if I left somebody drown without trying everything in my power. Lets hope I never find out.
I respect your courage mate. Iv been unfortunate enough to be involved in 2 incidents in the last 2 years on the beach next to Dbah that resulted in the deaths of the ones trying to rescue the struggling people, one of which was an off duty (ex) lifeguard. I shudder to think of that sort of thing happening again.
Select to expand quoteGonebush said..Ozone Kites Aus said..
Sad day for some folks up our way. Why this loud mouther attention seeking "social media" business person has singled out a kitesurfer is a mystery.
Does loud mouth social media tool even kite himself? Does he have any idea of how difficult it is to rescue a panicking person, and possibly an already unconscious person and fly a kite? Of course not, this is just his lame attempt to get some of the drug he craves - attention.
Shame on him to use the death of another person to vilify a kiter he does not know and who he has no idea of their skills or the winds and what was even possible. Shame on Channel 9 again for reporting sensationalism.
Common sense dictates that if you can't assist somebody in distress then you should stay out of the way of those that are able and trying to assist. That was the point made that seems to have been missed.
I can see your POV.
We can wonder if thats really what was happening though? The person doing the rescue would have been in a high state of stress himself. For him to then blast out at any other person he judged as "standing around doing F--- all" just proves how much of a DH he is.
It just appears he is using the situation to drum up attention for himself and his dodgy business, which is really poor form. Good on him if he was involved in the rescue attempt, but he should have kept his big mouth shut out of respect for the deceased and all the witnesses.
The kite boarder may have been trying to help, I'm pretty sure he would not be trying to impress or endanger anyone.
The witnesses who supposedly did nothing are not at fault and it is insane for loudmouth to imply that they were and irresponsible for Channel 9 to broadcast that BS.
"And that kite boarder who nearly ran me over twice when I had an unconscious man in my arms, you can get f---ed. Some poor family has lost a life because people were standing around watching and doing f--- all."
I rescued a few people with my kite and surfboard. Usually you calm them down and tell them to hold onto the board. If they are in a panic they grab your bar and all hell breaks loose. Those "Mad Hueys" are absolute idiots. They denergate woman they drink and fish and surf. These boys should have their head read as social media can turn on you very quickly and down their business plan goes... If I was sponsoring them (Hello Mitsubishi) I would be thonking very hard about their online presence very seriously.
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I rescued a few people with my kite and surfboard. Usually you calm them down and tell them to hold onto the board. If they are in a panic they grab your bar and all hell breaks loose. Those "Mad Hueys" are absolute idiots. They denergate woman they drink and fish and surf. These boys should have their head read as social media can turn on you very quickly and down their business plan goes... If I was sponsoring them (Hello Mitsubishi) I would be thonking very hard about their online presence very seriously.
Right on. They are idiots and anything said by them should be taken with a grain of salt.
The real question is why was someone kiting dbah on Christmas Day. On a normal day it's packed and Christmas Day would have been a whole different level.
