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Foiling training drills

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Created by INTHELOOP > 9 months ago, 13 Apr 2016
INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
13 Apr 2016 12:42PM
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Training drills with you foiling buddy are essential and will simulate and prepare for real race situations.2 guys that train together and are very good at this show a tack training drill before the hydro foil pro tour.Usually you do 4-5 of them with short upwind legs.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
13 Apr 2016 1:55PM
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I would've edited out the camera man shooting his wad at the end, but otherwise that was a really good clip of tacking: can see the angle to the wind, how their feet move what they're doing with the bar.

Am am I right in calling that a "duck jibe"? Seems to be easier to do than turning yourself downwind...

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
14 Apr 2016 1:53PM
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Kamikuza said..
I would've edited out the camera man shooting his wad at the end, but otherwise that was a really good clip of tacking: can see the angle to the wind, how their feet move what they're doing with the bar.

Am am I right in calling that a "duck jibe"? Seems to be easier to do than turning yourself downwind...


The crazy Mexican camera man. I think it was the 1st time he has seen a foiling tack, he got pretty excited.Correct me if I'm wrong but duck gybe is a windsurfing manoeuvre? I can see the comparison you made.Main difference is tack you to going upwind, gybes for going downwind (in kite racing).

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
14 Apr 2016 8:24PM
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INTHELOOP said..

Kamikuza said..
I would've edited out the camera man shooting his wad at the end, but otherwise that was a really good clip of tacking: can see the angle to the wind, how their feet move what they're doing with the bar.

Am am I right in calling that a "duck jibe"? Seems to be easier to do than turning yourself downwind...



The crazy Mexican camera man. I think it was the 1st time he has seen a foiling tack, he got pretty excited.Correct me if I'm wrong but duck gybe is a windsurfing manoeuvre? I can see the comparison you made.Main difference is tack you to going upwind, gybes for going downwind (in kite racing).


Bueno!

Bow info and through the wind = tack. Duck tack then? The way I do it on the directional, the board's "bow" through the wind but my nose jibes. The board basically comes to a complete stop....not very practical.

Whatver its called, I need to learn it!

flybywire
NSW, 50 posts
15 Apr 2016 10:22AM
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generally it known as a roll tack

check out the how to vids on this site-some great info on there......but it will take a long time to get the tacks nailed

kite-chino.com

kite-chino.com/home/race_how_to_videos


Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
15 Apr 2016 10:53AM
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flybywire said..
generally it known as a roll tack

check out the how to vids on this site-some great info on there......but it will take a long time to get the tacks nailed

kite-chino.com

kite-chino.com/home/race_how_to_videos




Especially when I can't just rely on the kite to hold me up so easily...

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
16 Apr 2016 11:32AM
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Kamikuza said..

flybywire said..
generally it known as a roll tack

check out the how to vids on this site-some great info on there......but it will take a long time to get the tacks nailed

http://kite-chino.com/home/foil-how-to-videos

kite-chino.com/home/race_how_to_videos





Especially when I can't just rely on the kite to hold me up so easily...


thats the key mate, lots of lift from the kite and also the foil! the foils needs to stay lefty through the weightless manoeuvre

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
16 Apr 2016 11:34AM
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i posted it before but here is a little step by step guide that i have done last year.hope it helps mate! Any questions, suggestions please go for it :)www.kitefoil.com.au/how-to/

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Apr 2016 12:15PM
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INTHELOOP said..

Kamikuza said..


flybywire said..
generally it known as a roll tack

check out the how to vids on this site-some great info on there......but it will take a long time to get the tacks nailed

kite-chino.com

kite-chino.com/home/race_how_to_videos






Especially when I can't just rely on the kite to hold me up so easily...



thats the key mate, lots of lift from the kite and also the foil! the foils needs to stay lefty through the weightless manoeuvre


Problem is, I like riding the foil under-powered, versus riding the small directional very powered. Just sheeting in and hovering a few inches above the board makes it easy, but when I have to carefully time when the kite flies over the zenith for max lift in low wind, it's just a fail-fest. The flying duck-tack looks "easier". But I think that's a whole other level yet...

Yesterday I was over-powered on the foil, tried a tack and had the power to float myself...but watched as the board spun 360s under me. Contrary bugger.

oldbones
QLD, 114 posts
18 Apr 2016 12:33PM
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Leave the board out there buddy, it's the last thing to bring around. I reckon your back foot should hit the front strap when board pointing straight upwind is good for starters. From what I've seen everyone brings board around too far when learning to tac (me included). We're talking roll tac.
1. arse low and close to board
2. weight forward or more importantly not back (board under you not in front of you)
3. fly kite slowly over top with bar all the way out (you want the right amount of lift) Right amount of lift achieved by kite speed over the top.
4. dive kite and change feet, it's harder on a tube kite you might have to loop your kite in light wind.
5. patience and persistence



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