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Your power bill is not real

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Created by japie > 9 months ago, 2 May 2016
japie
NSW, 7145 posts
2 May 2016 10:06AM
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Comments Harrow, you being our electrical expert!


theundercurrent.com/your-power-bill-is-not-real/

KiwiDave
VIC, 192 posts
2 May 2016 1:12PM
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It's more accurate than most of what our pollies say.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
2 May 2016 1:28PM
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essential reading

www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2014/july/1404136800/jess-hill/power-corrupts

Mark _australia
WA, 23530 posts
2 May 2016 11:55AM
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One of the reasons I detest privatisation.

Selling off utilities which then become profit driven.
We must be retarded, allowing Govts to sell off assets we own, and claim it is cheaper (patently false).

But that opened my eyes further, the lies from Govt are just disgusting.

Interesting was how Perth does not exist on his graph lol

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
2 May 2016 12:39PM
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Mark _australia said..
One of the reasons I detest privatisation.

Selling off utilities which then become profit driven.
We must be retarded, allowing Govts to sell off assets we own, and claim it is cheaper (patently false).

But that opened my eyes further, the lies from Govt are just disgusting.

Interesting was how Perth does not exist on his graph lol


Oh but the Emperor is working up to it, over the last few years.
He sees that his little pet project getting eaten away with people adding solar, and now solar power walls.
The first stunt his lot tried, was to reduce any buy back generated by solar to $0, a few years back by his treasure, the ol chair sniffer.
Fortunately the public woke up to the antics, and howled down the change .
The next move was to complain loudly that solar users should have to pay a "connection fee" regardless of any need for power usage from grid or not.
What he never indicates, is how much solar generated power the grid is purchasing for the paltry 0.08-14c per unit, and being on sold for the full market price. Nice little earner.
What he fails to highlight, is the running cost for the system, are lower than ever at the moment, due to two main drivers.
1: Fuel cost have fallen to lowest in years, thus generating cost are lower than anticipated.
2: The solar introduction has reduced the base loading on the system, allowing less reliant on all power plants needing to run at capacity.
Nephew worked in the system for over 15 years, he said it was amazing each year, the less likelihood of needing to shed load, to supply power from the system, as solar power came into vogue. The closest it came ever, was within 10% of full capacity, and that was three years back, and probably now in the 15-20% level with the additional solar added to the grid. With the advent of warmer summers, this is even more apparent, that the system is well catered for.

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
2 May 2016 3:12PM
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guys i have completely forgotten who the prime minister is.... no joke someone help us out

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
2 May 2016 3:34PM
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Kozzie said..
guys i have completely forgotten who the prime minister is.... no joke someone help us out




Buggered if I know.
I figure if I dont vote or care about who is prime minister, then I wont be able to annoy others by whining endlessly about politics.

I think the PM is mark australia? or is he just the PM for social media forummaning..

p train
VIC, 2629 posts
2 May 2016 4:37PM
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I thought it was my turn this week

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
2 May 2016 4:52PM
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Afraid I'm much too close to this one to make any specific comments, but I'll make a couple of generalised ones.

I'm with Mark aus on this. Corporatisation and privatisation were supposed to deliver efficiency gains to everyone. Have they? Obviously the gains haven't found their way into our bills, so where are they? Maximisation of consumer benefit has been replaced with maximisation of profits. The economists will unashamedly tell you this makes us all better off. Maybe it does if you have shares in the company that now owns the utility - in fact, the company profits are classed as an overall benefit when assessing the advantages of market based privatisation!

rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
2 May 2016 4:24PM
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Dunno about the power but he nails this one...

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0.20 onwards
"The pale and conflicted muppet who disappoints us least" ROFL



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