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Windsurfing vs Kitesurfing. Another angle

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Created by Macroscien > 9 months ago, 17 Oct 2020
Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
17 Oct 2020 9:18PM
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My predictions is that with introducing foils amount of injuries will rise dramatically ! for both

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
17 Oct 2020 11:15PM
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Yes windsurfers have a huge amount of injuries,
but old people tend to get damaged a lot easier as their bones are fairly brittle .

And out of all those massive amounts of injuries to windsurfers, most are from kiters running them over.......by accident....really, we dont....cough....try to.

But to put it into perspective, a windsurfer is 98% more likely to die from covide19 than a kiter, so windsurfing is waaaay more dangerous to your health.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
17 Oct 2020 11:22PM
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lotofwind said..
Yes windsurfers have a huge amount of injuries,
but old people tend to get damaged a lot easier as their bones are fairly brittle .

And out of all those massive amounts of injuries to windsurfers, most are from kiters running them over.......by accident....really, we dont....cough....try to.

But to put it into perspective, a windsurfer is 98% more likely to die from covide19 than a kiter, so windsurfing is waaaay more dangerous to your health.




With arrival of off shore wind turbines , statistic may change. I hate to see your kite tangled onto wind turbine,luckily also power poles lines along the beach replaced by underground, mostly
parking lots , behind trees- so softer landing rather.
You are lucky bunch, but there is something hidden in the message above.

Since windsurfers are mostly older and kiters young, then means the most of the kiters die before achieving reasonably old age. Due to other reasons, apparently. What it could be ? Hanging themselves on kiting ropes ? when hanging for drying?

"YES we can get hiM !!"


oppps !





lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
18 Oct 2020 12:32AM
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^^^^That is really hard to read.

That pic looks like there are 2 kiters throwing their mate at the windsurfer in the car. lol

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
17 Oct 2020 11:38PM
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here is another example debunking popular myth!That kiters don't have any brain.
They do have,
small any anyhow easy to damage...made of jelly most likely, al located at ass most likely, so prone to damage on landing





Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
17 Oct 2020 11:45PM
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the most important finger survived...

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
18 Oct 2020 1:00AM
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Trying to read your sentences gives me a Macro-Aneurysm.
But jokes aside, the vid was interesting that the more experienced a kiter or windsurfer get, the more injuries with experience happens with windsurfing. Why is that ??

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
18 Oct 2020 7:10AM
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What it's saying is that windsurfers keep the stoke and want to try for more , so more injuries .
Kiters get bored wondering more about color matching and dream of becoming a cyclist.
There is a little known fact that in areas of kiting , stamp collecting has a revival . Seems that kiters are craving for some excitement and a challenge . Seems that the stamps most sought after are matching colours.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
18 Oct 2020 9:37AM
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Huh?

Subsonic
WA, 3374 posts
18 Oct 2020 7:46AM
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evlPanda said..


Huh?


Yeh, that makes no sense whatsoever on the windsurfer side

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
18 Oct 2020 12:33PM
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98% of LT riders get hernia injuries just trying to get their boards off the roof racks .lol

kato
VIC, 3510 posts
18 Oct 2020 12:54PM
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I was thinking that we could have a kitter led financial recovery. The more kites on the water means more lost boards, broken bladders and a few extra visits to the ER department. More coffees consumed while waiting too

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
18 Oct 2020 9:57AM
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lotofwind said..
98% of LT riders get hernia injuries just trying to get their boards off the roof racks .lol


Come on. When you see old guys boosting their kite at your local, its a pretty moot point. It's so much easier to 'jump' a kite than do tricks windsurfing. Hence the number of injuries in each sport. The beginners in kitesurfing screw up, and probably don't return to the sport.

What does 'doing jumps' on a kite qualify you as anyway? Beginner or Intermediate?

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
18 Oct 2020 1:43PM
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Subsonic said..
Yeh, that makes no sense whatsoever on the windsurfer side

I thought it was kind of logical. You get to intermediate level and you're comfortable in the harness and just happy to go back and forth on the bay at a modest planing speed and not a real lot can go wrong. Then you get to advanced and start putting on some genuine speed, then you get expert and start setting speed records and try to master big jumps or loops, etc.

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
19 Oct 2020 3:40PM
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evlPanda said..


Huh?


Or
There are no "intermediate" windsurfers, because it only takes a few minutes to go from beginner to advanced after you leave the shop with your new kit.

Kay1982
WA, 276 posts
19 Oct 2020 1:48PM
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Thats (clip) interesting but I cant help but wonder about the quality of the data. I mean a Dutch study over two years compared to a (one) day filming on a beach in Cuba compared with people self rating their ability. What was the number: 29% ish kiters wear some form of safety gear- ha- maybe if you include a hat as sun protection.

I dont know what level I'm at, I mean I can jump consitently at the eight meter height but the only trick I can do is a backroll so maybe at the bottom end of intermediate. I do kite mainly on my own so self launch/land 90% time and have been going for six years now I reckon some people would claim that as advanced for themselves.

The only badish injury I've had so far is a bunch of seperated ribs in Mauritius but I didn't go to hospital for that.

Where I learnt plenty of beginners joined the "carpark club" but I never saw them getting badly hurt (just dragged over the dunes a bit). The real bad injuries/dangerous near misses were almost exclusively the domain of the "expert" level kiters usually showing off near their buddies on the beach (which does sort of reflect in their analysis I admit) but doesn't reflect the inherent danger of the sport just the inherent hubris/stupidity of some.

eg. Your bumhole is a pretty safe thing, when some dude decides to break his own thumb in his bumhole it doesn't then become a dangerous thing.

One thing that probably cant be quantified is the injuries that were prevented by kiter and windsurfers saving others on the beach when **** happens (which would probably add some numbers to the beginner end) which is a bloody great part of the beach culture we are part of.

The seasons starting yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwww! I predict its going to be a ripper! Look after each other.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
19 Oct 2020 4:25PM
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Craig66 said..


evlPanda said..


Huh?




Or
There are no "intermediate" windsurfers, because it only takes a few minutes to go from beginner to advanced after you leave the shop with your new kit.




Obviously you don't windsurf then. Its far harder to get to a comfortable state of windsurfing than it is kitesurfing, although I am biased as windsurfing taught me the skills related to the wind, and I just applied them to kitesurfing. There was a guy at the local that helped me launch my kite at the beginning of one season and was absolutely amazed that a little while later I was going upwind with ease. Despite what some people say, the skills are transferable.

Is kitesurfing easy to get to 'mowing the grass' for people that have had no other windsport background? I was a bit surprised when a windsurfer learning kiting was telling me that none of the skills were common. I don't know what his windsurfing was like, but for me the knowledge of the wind works and how to use it is exactly the same.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
19 Oct 2020 7:27PM
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Macroscien
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19 Oct 2020 7:34PM
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Subsonic
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19 Oct 2020 7:33PM
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Subsonic said..
Yeh, that makes no sense whatsoever on the windsurfer side



I thought it was kind of logical. You get to intermediate level and you're comfortable in the harness and just happy to go back and forth on the bay at a modest planing speed and not a real lot can go wrong. Then you get to advanced and start putting on some genuine speed, then you get expert and start setting speed records and try to master big jumps or loops, etc.



I dunno.

i spent a lot of time eating sh!t when i was intermediate. Even cracked a rib body slamming the mast In a catapault whilst learning to carve gybe.

i guess it depends a little what you class as intermediate as opposed to beginner. But i regard intermediate as that wonderful stage where you can plane, but youre not full bottle on manoeuvres, handling the rig properly, half hooked in. So all set up for some reasonably high speed pain. Beginner you're probably not hooking in at all, and quite willing to bail at the first sign of trouble/going too quick.

azymuth
WA, 2163 posts
19 Oct 2020 7:57PM
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Imax1 said..There is a little known fact that in areas of kiting , stamp collecting has a revival . Seems that kiters are craving for some excitement and a challenge . Seems that the stamps most sought after are matching colours.


Are you saying that some kiters are closet philatelists with a fondness for exotic colours?

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
20 Oct 2020 6:41AM
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azymuth said..



Imax1 said..There is a little known fact that in areas of kiting , stamp collecting has a revival . Seems that kiters are craving for some excitement and a challenge . Seems that the stamps most sought after are matching colours.





Are you saying that some kiters are closet philatelists with a fondness for exotic colours?




How would one know that big word without being one ? . I had to look it up. Do you also kite ?

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
20 Oct 2020 3:37PM
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Subsonic said..

Harrow said..



Subsonic said..
Yeh, that makes no sense whatsoever on the windsurfer side




I thought it was kind of logical. You get to intermediate level and you're comfortable in the harness and just happy to go back and forth on the bay at a modest planing speed and not a real lot can go wrong. Then you get to advanced and start putting on some genuine speed, then you get expert and start setting speed records and try to master big jumps or loops, etc.




I dunno.

i spent a lot of time eating sh!t when i was intermediate. Even cracked a rib body slamming the mast In a catapault whilst learning to carve gybe.

i guess it depends a little what you class as intermediate as opposed to beginner. But i regard intermediate as that wonderful stage where you can plane, but youre not full bottle on manoeuvres, handling the rig properly, half hooked in. So all set up for some reasonably high speed pain. Beginner you're probably not hooking in at all, and quite willing to bail at the first sign of trouble/going too quick.


I think you set intermediate too low, more at beginner level. I'm intermediate. Planing gybes on flat water and chop hopping is the extent of my skills. I'd say advanced can tack small boards, heli tack and forward loops. Expert can do everything and more.
On the other hand, I did break my ankle windsurfing, so maybe I'm advanced level.

Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
26 Oct 2020 12:30PM
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Macroscien said..


Man there's some idiotic shizz in there. Loved the tool with the kneebrace having a go at the jetty at the end. Mustn't have learned his lesson the first time.. Also the wankers with the kid and the dog FFS. Maybe best of all are the twits climbing trees...



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