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Some People are Full of ****

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Created by Shifu > 9 months ago, 31 Jul 2019
Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
31 Jul 2019 8:57AM
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Check this moron out. Underpaid staff to the tune of nearly 8 million and claims it was a shock when he found out. Now he wants to be a "voice for change" in the industry. More like desperately trying to salvage his tarnished reputation. Weapons grade crapola.

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-31/george-calombaris-breaks-his-silence-about-underpaying-staff/11368212

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
31 Jul 2019 9:19AM
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He did pay them back didn't he- not sure on this one.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2019 10:15AM
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He doesn't want to be "the voice for change", the courts ruled he has to, part of his punishment.

Mark _australia
WA, 23517 posts
31 Jul 2019 8:47AM
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The court never told him anything according to the article, it didn't go to court.

The Fair Work Ombudsman made an agreement with the company regarding a contrition payment (whatever that is,flash word for fine?) and it is court enforceable. In other words he has to abide by it or else it might be a court matter.

Bit harsh to have a crack if his company did indeed discover the underpay themselves, and he seems very genuine.

Tequila !
WA, 1028 posts
31 Jul 2019 8:47AM
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Sleazy weasel crying poor.

Sell some houses from his portfolio first and repay his staff in FULL before we can believe a word of him again.


myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
31 Jul 2019 11:08AM
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novetti said..
Sleazy weasel crying poor.

Sell some houses from his portfolio first and repay his staff in FULL before we can believe a word of him again.




someone sounds a bit bitter. Do you think he personally sits up doing payroll for his various enterprises and then works out how to shortchange?

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2019 11:27AM
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Don't believe everything you read on social media

Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
31 Jul 2019 12:06PM
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8 million unpaid was 8 million in profit they thought they were earning. What did they think was going on?

quikdrawMcgraw
1221 posts
31 Jul 2019 10:15AM
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Everyone's full of schit when it suits them even you

Tequila !
WA, 1028 posts
31 Jul 2019 11:43AM
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myusernam said..

novetti said..
Sleazy weasel crying poor.

Sell some houses from his portfolio first and repay his staff in FULL before we can believe a word of him again.





someone sounds a bit bitter. Do you think he personally sits up doing payroll for his various enterprises and then works out how to shortchange?


Uh looks like Colomba's have some advocates here.

Simply put, the business is HIM. Any bad rep would obliviously be directly at him and his reputation.

Then GO crying poor in a TV interview before owning to wearing pants, ACT like a man and honor your debts.

Blame the payroll HR intern for such mistakes...yes right. The liability is his reputation, still can be sorted just PAY the workers, simple as that.

Looks like he made a choice what is more important to him. The rest is just gossip. Maybe he could enlist to the next ''Survivor'' or Celebz in the jungle now he lost his TV gig.

pepe47
WA, 1382 posts
31 Jul 2019 11:52AM
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The sob story would have a little credibility if they actually overpaid someone, but I don't see that headline coming up anytime soon.

AusMoz
QLD, 1510 posts
31 Jul 2019 2:13PM
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Just the tip of the iceberg that has been exposed! Be good when they go after hotels like the Sheraton, hiltons, and large hotels and resorts who are renowned for under paying staff

Paradox
QLD, 1326 posts
31 Jul 2019 2:56PM
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Mark _australia said..
The court never told him anything according to the article, it didn't go to court.

The Fair Work Ombudsman made an agreement with the company regarding a contrition payment (whatever that is,flash word for fine?) and it is court enforceable. In other words he has to abide by it or else it might be a court matter.

Bit harsh to have a crack if his company did indeed discover the underpay themselves, and he seems very genuine.


Gotta agree with you there.... I reckon some are being a bit quick to climb the soap boxes to get on the bandwagons....

Facts are - his company stuffed up, his company realised they stuffed up. His company went to fair work and told them they stuffed up. His company worked with Fair Work to rectify the short payments and made additional payments.

He is the head of the company and has taken full responsibility.

Not good, and should not have happened. He is paying the consequences now though public backlash. But I run a business and can see how easy it would be for a growing company to make mistakes. Especially if they haven't resourced the support in that area (their fault for sure).

At least they found out the problem and rectified it themselves. It's not like they were caught out deliberately shafting employees.

Frankly I reckon they should be applauded for doing the right thing and set as an example of what businesses should do when they stuff up. I'm sure there are plenty who would have just quietly carried on.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
31 Jul 2019 1:00PM
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he should be fined 8 million for the way he holds a fork, ****ing ****s me

ka43
NSW, 3097 posts
31 Jul 2019 4:06PM
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^^^^^ So true!!!!

AusMoz
QLD, 1510 posts
31 Jul 2019 8:17PM
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Just a representation of the Hospitality Industry as Whole!

I'm sure a lot of us have worked in hospitality at some stage or still work in it and know how we have been scrooged/screwed by the owners/companies!

Love how Master Chef portrays the glamour side of it - love to know how many of the contestants tried to work in Hospitality and left shortly after being in it!

I feel sorry for the people still in the industry who can't leave it for different reasons.

causehecan
WA, 668 posts
31 Jul 2019 6:34PM
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Say what you want about hospitality but you cant argue that you have a terrible job at any village town boat wagon city at any morning midday night of any day or night on any country in world.

I have a good friend whose getting on a bit and she was a bit upset about being a 40 yr old cook and i explained if she was a neuroscientist she would have stuff all work available to her on this little island. That perked her up a bit.

Grass is always greener. Ive always enjoyed all of my jobs. Hospitality always seemed to be the most social. Its the people.

AusMoz
QLD, 1510 posts
31 Jul 2019 8:51PM
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Say what you want about hospitality but you cant argue that you have a terrible job at any village town boat wagon city at any morning midday night of any day or night on any country in world.

I have a good friend whose getting on a bit and she was a bit upset about being a 40 yr old cook and i explained if she was a neuroscientist she would have stuff all work available to her on this little island. That perked her up a bit.

Grass is always greener. Ive always enjoyed all of my jobs. Hospitality always seemed to be the most social. Its the people.


Yes but the people come and go - due to the grass always being greener on the other side.

Shyte I could talk about this non stop!

some things i miss about it but generally speaking the management always seems changing - lots of unqualified persons in the management positions - most funny was seeing Police arrest a GM for fraud, another being escorted by Police off the premises. Geez the list goes on, so many stories etc but limited time to type!

But you have the ones who are happy doing what they do regardless of whats going on, good on them! There is always someone worse off!

The lowest point was a friend who took his own life after being ripped off by a large hotel over 3 years, not having the confidence to leave the industry and felt stuck in it.

I hope the ones in relation to George Columbaris aren't staring down the same path as my mate.

causehecan
WA, 668 posts
31 Jul 2019 7:03PM
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We talking accor? mantra etc?

Hospitality can be very fun. Unlike concreteing. Most fun experience concreteing is when this old digger got on the screed and his balls were hanging so low out of his footy shorts they were dragging in the concrete leaveing a little trail. Eventually they built up enough crust he didnt even realise it. It was akin to a snowball being rolled down a hill in a charlie brown comic. Just kept getting bigger and bigger.

But yeah hospo managers tend to be whoever the owner/gms fancieing that month

Any coed environment is so much better to work in. Ill take a paycut just for that alone

Main
QLD, 2338 posts
1 Aug 2019 10:49AM
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Paradox said..

Mark _australia said..
The court never told him anything according to the article, it didn't go to court.

The Fair Work Ombudsman made an agreement with the company regarding a contrition payment (whatever that is,flash word for fine?) and it is court enforceable. In other words he has to abide by it or else it might be a court matter.

Bit harsh to have a crack if his company did indeed discover the underpay themselves, and he seems very genuine.



Gotta agree with you there.... I reckon some are being a bit quick to climb the soap boxes to get on the bandwagons....

Facts are - his company stuffed up, his company realised they stuffed up. His company went to fair work and told them they stuffed up. His company worked with Fair Work to rectify the short payments and made additional payments.

He is the head of the company and has taken full responsibility.

Not good, and should not have happened. He is paying the consequences now though public backlash. But I run a business and can see how easy it would be for a growing company to make mistakes. Especially if they haven't resourced the support in that area (their fault for sure).

At least they found out the problem and rectified it themselves. It's not like they were caught out deliberately shafting employees.

Frankly I reckon they should be applauded for doing the right thing and set as an example of what businesses should do when they stuff up. I'm sure there are plenty who would have just quietly carried on.


Wonder how many of the critics have actually run a business employing numerous staff with no CEO and no Financial Controller ?

They wouldn't have the slightest clue what that would be like.

Taking the story at face value he seems to have done the right thing.....

Brent in Qld
WA, 1400 posts
1 Aug 2019 10:04AM
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Agree Main, every story has two sides. As employees we've all been slack or have screwed while being clocked on. Don't see many, if any, employees offering a reduction in take home pay because we were half assed or didn't have our eyes on the ball all day, every day.

As an employer you put a lot of trust in staff to do the right thing & sometimes this doesn't happen. Hopefully when sh!t happens experience, margin or insurance may cover you. George loves food, cooking etc... & that would be his focus. I doubt he was across every last detail of his financials other than regular reports. At least he's had the balls to stand up & say my business, my issue. Having said all that, one cardinal rule of running a business is never f#*k up staff pay.

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
1 Aug 2019 1:35PM
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novetti said..

myusernam said..


novetti said..
Sleazy weasel crying poor.

Sell some houses from his portfolio first and repay his staff in FULL before we can believe a word of him again.






someone sounds a bit bitter. Do you think he personally sits up doing payroll for his various enterprises and then works out how to shortchange?



Uh looks like Colomba's have some advocates here.

Simply put, the business is HIM. Any bad rep would obliviously be directly at him and his reputation.

Then GO crying poor in a TV interview before owning to wearing pants, ACT like a man and honor your debts.

Blame the payroll HR intern for such mistakes...yes right. The liability is his reputation, still can be sorted just PAY the workers, simple as that.

Looks like he made a choice what is more important to him. The rest is just gossip. Maybe he could enlist to the next ''Survivor'' or Celebz in the jungle now he lost his TV gig.



in the 730 report last night he said they self reported when they found out the issue 2 years ago. and paid the money in full at that time. it was about classifications or something. so if you have someone in the wrong classification then their rate is different. it's only in the news at the moment because of the results of the commission or whatever. watch it if you're interested. I'm not really. I just think you jumped the gun and sounded very bitter "sell some of his houses" maybe you should work hard and get yourself some

kato
VIC, 3511 posts
1 Aug 2019 1:37PM
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Hang on, he did find the problem and then alerted the commission. He wasn't caught ripping off people, he basically said , I've made an error and I need to pay more to my staff.
Anyone got something extra by mistake and not told the supplier

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
1 Aug 2019 4:02PM
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surely if you found the error you would then quietly sort it out with your employees. why would you need to to go to a bunch of beaurocrates. first. I'll be guessing he lawyers did better than the employees on this one

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
1 Aug 2019 7:16PM
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Have worked in a few 5 star restaurants in Aussie and whilst living/traveling over seas, all were good times, money was ok, tips where massive OS, more than the wage. Jobs are what you make them, no matter what the occupation.

Shanty
QLD, 487 posts
1 Aug 2019 9:17PM
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Toph
WA, 1874 posts
1 Aug 2019 8:28PM
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^^^ Yeah and the Tribe seems generally in support of him.

Subsonic
WA, 3377 posts
1 Aug 2019 8:38PM
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landyacht said..
surely if you found the error you would then quietly sort it out with your employees. why would you need to to go to a bunch of beaurocrates. first. I'll be guessing he lawyers did better than the employees on this one


He's a public figure. Keeping it quiet and fixing it on the down low could hurt a lot more later on than fixing it in public view now.

Chris_M
2132 posts
2 Aug 2019 3:10AM
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Cool will there be a thread about Love Island soon too?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
2 Aug 2019 3:50PM
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novetti said..
Sleazy weasel crying poor.


He isn't crying poor.

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Sell some houses from his portfolio first and repay his staff in FULL before we can believe a word of him again.



"We went to Fair Work, we owned up, and two years ago we paid back everyone."

Did you actually read the article, or, are you one of those modern people that need to be more offended and outraged than the next person? Any excuse you get.

Apologies if you have just given birth and are hormonal.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
2 Aug 2019 3:52PM
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"Right now there's [sic] 642 team members..."


Should (just) be able to handle that many with a slick spreadsheet, really.



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