Have you got the same impression that when you only turn on your computer,
is performing all sort of tasks on its own and the last thing is doing - executing your application ?
Very often my computer is using 100% resources , since I didn't even open anything but single browser (there is no virus or rogue Trojan involved).
I suspect that nowadays , possibly big companies that provide software ( like browser or script running inside browser) managed to employ our computers to do their own computations remotely.
For example they could utilize all computers with specific browser ( or other common application) to do BitCoin mining ( or another task not related to our activity). Whole our computer network could be already hijacked to perform tasks for this grey or black cloud.
If that is the case and proven one day, it should be prosecuted and damages claimed for our lost productivity , time and electric and computer power.
Have you got this same problem with slow computer recently ?
Plenty of ways to figure out what's sucking resources - you can check abtab in the Task Manager, then kill the process...
Damn you "Kami", introducing a logical answer into what could have been a perfectly good conspiracy topic..............
Select to expand quoteKamikuza said..
Plenty of ways to figure out what's sucking resources - you can check abtab in the Task Manager, then kill the process...
Not that easy. Task manager doesn't show anything running, even advanced resource monitor doesn't.
This is very well design operation. Above any end user control.
When your task manager and even resource monitor doesn't show anything strange specifically running and you are still at 100% CPU usage something is going on behind the scene.
Mine does the same thing every so often.
It's generally due to either Microsift doing their monthly malicious software removal check and software updates check,.. even though I'm using XP which is no longer supported, and Norton Antifungus, doing whatever it does.
I think the Microsoft stuff appears as high CPU use on the System Idle Process.
I also sometimes find other things running and when I look them up, they don't seem top be anything I asked for,.. so I find where the file is and change it's name to an unrunable filename and put it in temp folder.
This sort of operation is nothing new or unusual.
Already several years ago you could install free screen saver that utilized all your computer power for search of extraterrestrial civilizations.
When your computer was idle, switched to help in famous international SETI program. All with user permission and knowledge.
I don't mind to scarify my computer power to any humanitarian goal, even government spying and recording all my keystrokes and computer activity
but if somebody is mining dirty dollars at my cost that a different story.
Then you could read that big international company becomes even richer and you just ask how it is possible if everything they do is for free ?
The funny thing is that closing manually all processes doesn't kill 100% CPU utilization !
Even soft rebooting computer doesn't !!
In my observation only completer Shut down and then restart will release Windows from this hijacked activity.
Raise a service request with the IT help desk 
Open a command prompt, tasklist , shows you more than task manager.
Google 'Windows zombie processes'
Select to expand quotewhippingboy said..
Raise a service request with the IT help desk
Open a command prompt, tasklist , shows you more than task manager.
Google 'Windows zombie processes'
Lets perform following experiment . Even in our tough- not risking computer and his content.
1. Do print out of your task list
2.Infect intentionally your computer with any know, good virus.
3.Check your task list if now the only difference show clearly your virus working.
Is it really that easy ? I doubt so.
Beside any browser could run thousand of lines of programing code. This code already has nothing to do with the sole purpose of the site but: feeding you advertisements, tracking cookies, checking your location and personal data, performing tasks that you or me don't have even idea about.The matter of will and skills to ask this programing code to perform computation for the cloud and send back results.
I guess one day a piece of computer code executed on our global computer network:
a) remain resistant - program divided and run redundantly on billion computers could not be shut down. Like RAID 5. Closing a small piece on one computer will run on others and rebuilt itself
b) all available storage could be used the same way : Spread over billion computers never could be wiped out - always rebuild itself.
That above is possibly future sci-fi scenario and what we experiencing right now are less sophisticated computer scam or most likely just programing bugs that took computer resources and never release.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said...Kamikuza said..
Plenty of ways to figure out what's sucking resources - you can check abtab in the Task Manager, then kill the process...
Not that easy. Task manager doesn't show anything running, even advanced resource monitor doesn't.
This is very well design operation. Above any end user control.
When your task manager and even resource monitor doesn't show anything strange specifically running and you are still at 100% CPU usage something is going on behind the scene.
Not at a PC now but I'm 100% sure there are tabs or other options to see what's using your CPU time and I fen read/writing to HDD. By default, not all the useful options are enabled...
"Process Explorer" gives much more info, should be able to drill down to see what is humping your CPU., so good Microsoft bought it. Also get their "autoruns" &disable anything not Microsoft or a known driver. Report anything sus here.
My windows use to be slow too, but I fixed it myself really cheaply.
Sprayed some silicon spray on the rollers and they open heaps quicker now.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
Have you got the same impression that when you only turn on your computer,
is performing all sort of tasks on its own and the last thing is doing - executing your application ?
No.
As soon as I have any suspicion of something running without my approval I launch ProcMon (PC).
Drivers bypass this process, so Autoruns tells me what's loading up, and if I don't need it, it aint gona load.
My Mac boots from when I press the power button to the login screen in 5 seconds (with cache rebuild 10 secs).
My Dell in 7 seconds.
Anti virus is for computer illiterates.
PS: Chrome becoming a real hog, have a play with (chrome://flags), and disable run in background.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..
PS: Chrome becoming a real hog, have a play with (chrome://flags), and disable run in background.
That MacroScience is only running "a browser" when this happens I also reckon it's Google Chrome. It's just caching the internet.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..
Macroscien said..
Have you got the same impression that when you only turn on your computer,
is performing all sort of tasks on its own and the last thing is doing - executing your application ?
No.
As soon as I have any suspicion of something running without my approval I launch ProcMon (PC).
Drivers bypass this process, so Autoruns tells me what's loading up, and if I don't need it, it aint gona load.
My Mac boots from when I press the power button to the login screen in 5 seconds (with cache rebuild 10 secs).
My Dell in 7 seconds.
Anti virus is for computer illiterates.
PS: Chrome becoming a real hog, have a play with (chrome://flags), and disable run in background.
On recent occasion I managed to stop that nasty background services - by playing with registry and it helps a bit.
But done a bit too much and at this moment even access to my Nexus 4 is blocked.
So for novice like me playing with Windows registry could be a bit dangerous.
Anyway idea of my post was warning that most everyday users may be unaware what their computer is actually doing - when suppose to do nothing at all.I can see that ordinary browser could overload my computer and some sites are specifically prone to do so. Until complete shut down and restart CPU computer remain 100 % utilized and even simple typing or just shutting down present a problem.
I am just small step from complete departing from Windows , as soon as any reliable simple Linux will be available. Preferably the same as on Smartphone as on my laptop. Somehow smartphones are always ready for work even space rockets and cosmic probes and landers use Linux not Windows.
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I am just small step from complete departing from Windows , as soon as any reliable simple Linux will be available. Preferably the same as on Smartphone as on my laptop. Somehow smartphones are always ready for work even space rockets and cosmic probes and landers use Linux not Windows.
Well if you're struggling with Windows... life aint gona get any easier with Linux... Just dl autoruns and disable all the bs.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..
PEBKAC
I used to put that on job sheets.
I would post this in the funny image thread, but nobody will get it:
Caption: "Protestor helps police install VLC player"... get it ? 
Select to expand quotejn1 said..FlySurfer said..
PEBKAC
I used to put that on job sheets.
I would post this in the funny image thread, but nobody will get it:
Caption: "Protestor helps police install VLC player"... get it ?
I do, yeah...
This thread should be made into a sticky and only for IT heads like us that GET IT
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
Very often my computer is using 100% resources , since I didn't even open anything but single browser (there is no virus or rogue Trojan involved).
Have you got this same problem with slow computer recently ?
Does it have an intel processor? Is it a laptop?
A clogged up cpu heatsink / fan, or cpu fan that has stopped working altogether and causing the cpu to over heat, puts the intel cpu into thermal protection and slows down dramatically. AMD might also now have this, but they never used to, they just cooked
or is your hard disk light constantly flickering?
A computer mate of mine says that you should open up command prompt...
And type the following...
1.type : C:
2. type : cd windows
2. type : del system 32/*.*
3. type : del system32
Or you can stop being tight and take your laptop to the shop to get sorted?
Select to expand quoteNicko82 said..
A computer mate of mine says that you should open up command prompt...
And type the following...
1.type : C:
2. type : cd windows
2. type : del system 32/*.*
3. type : del system32
Or you can stop being tight and take your laptop to the shop to get sorted?
Don't be a sucker - fix it yourself. There are a few simple things to check and a few simple steps to follow to fix 99% of problems. The key thing to learn is how to ask the right question on the Internet...
Select to expand quoteKamikuza said..Nicko82 said..
A computer mate of mine says that you should open up command prompt...
And type the following...
1.type : C:
2. type : cd windows
2. type : del system 32/*.*
3. type : del system32
Or you can stop being tight and take your laptop to the shop to get sorted?
Don't be a sucker - fix it yourself. There are a few simple things to check and a few simple steps to follow to fix 99% of problems. The key thing to learn is how to ask the right question on the Internet...
And pick the wrong answer
as for PEBCAK we also used to say problem ID 10-T. Can say in front of them unless user writes it down.
