Why is it, that pretty much all bills arrive with a bunch of options of how to pay, but direct transfer isn't an option?
Personally, I find it the easiest way to do financial dealings, but for some reason, utilities, DOT, ATO, etc, don't simply print the acccount details for the transfer???
The only reason I can think of for excluding this option, is that there must be a payoff somewhere. Could be overdue fees, or transaction charges, not sure.
I can't possibly be the only one annoyed by this.
Possibly because with the direct deposit (pay anyone) option too many people omit any reference numbers so the payment can be assigned against the correct bill...
It sounds simple but it happens.
Just a thought, happy to be enlightened to other reasons..
I don't know about pay anyone, but with Bpay for example I think the payee automatically get a remittance advice emailed to them.
When I pay EFT I don't bother sending an email, I just include the reference numbers and presume it's up to them to see if I've paid.
No one sends me remittance advice emails, and I would check anyways...
I think it's a large corporation thing............
If you're going online to direct transfer (pay anyone) what's the difference between that and BPay? either way it's just an account number and reference number?
Its as Skid said. With BPAY, payments get allocated to the right account automatically.
With Pay anyone companies need to rely on people entering the correct number manually, in the right format and make no typos.
If there is a typo or the number is missing it's a lot of manual work and reconciliation for them, to find where the payment belongs too.
It's also better for the customer, as they don't get payment reminders
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I think there's also a thing where the Bpay customer number being so long ensures that a typo will most likely fail rather than randomly pay on behalf of someone else..
OK, so Bpay is the way to go?
I've not used it myself, as I prefer to keep online transfers within the bank system, hence pay anyone.
If I pay via CC I still have to input all the relevant info from the bill, so the potential for miss-payments can't be the problem.
Why is it OK to pay from a credit account, but not a savings account? Surely the "checking for authenticity/money available" thing should equally apply?
If I have the funds in my account, why should I not be able to choose "savings", just like one can do at the shops or servo's?
I smell some bad odours surrounding those with credit card debt extending beyond the "55 days" etc.
If you have outstanding debt on your credit account, the newest purchase is as the back of the queue, so you might well pay interest for months on a utility bill that you had the cash to pay for on the day.
Not sure if I've made sense, but there is a definate trap present for the casual CC user, that can't keep on top of the CC treadmill.
Just not sure that enough people are aware of this.
As it turns out the big banks own BPay.... via Wikipedia.
BPAY is an electronic bill payment system in Australia which enables payments to be made through a financial institution's online, mobile or telephone banking facility to organisations which are registered BPAY billers. BPAY is a registered trading name of BPAY Pty Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Cardlink Services Limited. Cardlink is owned equally by the four major Australian banks: Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, National Australia Bank Limitedand Westpac Banking Corporation.
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Businesses or other organisations which choose to participate in the BPAY system would register as billers with the BPAY operating company through its bank. The operating company would allocate a biller number to the business, which would be printed with the BPAY logo on their bills, as well as an indication of what reference number a customer should use when making a payment.
To make a payment, a customer would visit his or her financial institution's online, mobile or telephone banking facility, where he or she would enter the biller code, reference number and payment amount as well as an indication of the account to be debited, which may also be a credit card. Some billers do not accept credit cards (or accept payment from a limited list of credit cards) in payment through BPAY.
The financial institution may limit the accounts which may be used for BPAY payments, and save the biller references information for use by the customer for future payments.The customer does not need to register for the service. The customer would usually not be required to pay a fee for the service, but the biller would usually pay a fee to its bank, and the credit card company if a card was used in payment.
After a customer has made a payment using BPAY, the financial institution where the payment was made would send by electronic funds transfer the payment details to the biller's bank (if different) and the biller's bank would credit the biller's designated bank account with the payment amount, and the biller will be advised of the customer reference number and payment amount, for automatic or manual entry into its accounting system.
Transactions completed before a cut-off time set by the financial institution will normally be processed and paid on the same day, otherwise it will be processed on the next business day. The remitting bank may charge the biller's bank an interchange fee.
History. The BPAY system was launched on 18 November 1997 as an electronic bill payment system for bill payments by phone. It was the world's first single bill payment service adopted across the banking sector. It soon offered bill payments over the Internet through financial institutions' online banking sites.
In 2002 BPAY View was introduced, which delivers bills and statements electronically through Australian financial institution's internet banking sites. As of January 2015, BPAY payments can be made through more than 156 participating Australian banks, credit unions and financial institutions. More than 45,000 business accept payments using BPAY and each month approximately 30 million bills to the value of $24 billion are paid using BPAY.
^ Thanks for that info Chris, much appreciated.
Great to see something good developed in Australia too.
Bills paid now via Aust Post, but I'll be looking into the BPAY thing now.
Cheers.
Just wait until late 2017 early 2018 when the New Payment Platform (NPP) is rolled out by the RBA and Banks. Going to revolutionise the payments space as we see it. Have attached some info, I reckon it's awesome stuff! Sorry I work as a transactional specialist for one of the big 4 so am a bit excited at the opportunities it will create for all. http://www.apca.com.au/docs/new-payments-platform/npp-launch-presentation.pdf
Gee, all these things about money and finance just seem to be getting further and further away from a "value based" system.
Pay goes into a bank account, (numbers on a spreadsheet), swap some hypothetical numbers via an Eftpos terminal when shopping, or take on debt by the same devices...
What happens if/when the FIAT monetary system caves in?
What represents value?
Not into CT's, however there seems to be ever increasing nervousness in money markets.