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NBN for numpties

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Created by sn > 9 months ago, 20 Mar 2019
sn
WA, 2775 posts
20 Mar 2019 10:20PM
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Just heard that NBN is ready to have us inflicted upon them

We are getting [have??] the hybrid fibre - coax version, which means the suburbs cable TV coax will be used.

Any hints as to which provider to go with, pitfalls to avoid etc.??

Cambodge
VIC, 851 posts
21 Mar 2019 7:39AM
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My NBN via HFC has been awesome! Super fast up and down. Went with Telstra...paid more but get less congestion so no slow down at peak times.

FormulaNova
WA, 15084 posts
21 Mar 2019 5:44AM
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I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.

GPA
WA, 2528 posts
21 Mar 2019 6:20AM
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I am on iiNet and get 47Mbs on the NBN50 plan. The other night I thought it might have been a touch slow so did a speed test - was still pulling 37Mbs at 8:00pm. Service and installation crew were very good.

Don't forget that the performance speed is made up of many factors including poor web page design and slow servers and congestion at the other end of the service you are accessing - not everything will be ripping fast.

westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
21 Mar 2019 7:56AM
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+1 for Aussie Broadband. On a 50/20 plan and get 48/20 even at peak times. Australian call centres. They don't oversubscribe to ensure you get what you pay for. Even better is there are no contracts. Just pay as you go. You can change plans or leave any time you want.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
21 Mar 2019 9:47AM
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FormulaNova said..
I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.


we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg







BlueMoon
866 posts
22 Mar 2019 4:19AM
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Another +1 for Aussie Broadband. I recently connected to the NBN, and had no problems with them. Slightly faster than our previous ADSL2, on there NBN 25 plan, also much cheaper than we were paying for adsl.
If you decide to go with Aussie Broadband find one of your relo's and get a code from them, you get a $50 on your account and so do they. PM me for a code if you want to.

gs12
WA, 420 posts
22 Mar 2019 6:48AM
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+1 for aussie nbn. No issues in past two years.
Having said that, we had ADSL with iinet before that and had only 1 issue with download speed in 4 years

westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
22 Mar 2019 7:21AM
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we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg









That's not an NBN connection. Max they offer is 100Mb/s.
Also, when doing speed tests, change the server to one in another state, or on the other side of the country.
This is where you find out the quality of your provider as you will find out what bandwidth they have on their interconnects. Does not matter how fast your local connection is if your connection to the real world is crap.
Not at home, but just as an example, on Telstra, here's a result from Perth to Internode in Melbourne
Anyone with Vodafone in Perth want to post their results.




rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
22 Mar 2019 8:13AM
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westozwind said..


dusta said..

we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg









That's not an NBN connection. Max they offer is 100Mb/s.
Also, when doing speed tests, change the server to one in another state, or on the other side of the country.
This is where you find out the quality of your provider as you will find out what bandwidth they have on their interconnects. Drones on matter how fast your local connection is if your connection to the real world is crap.
Or at home, but just as an example, on Telstra, here's a result from Perth to Internode in Melbourne
Anyone with Vodafone in Perth want to post their results.





Probably best to clip the location part... assuming you were at work ;)


But yes... in some cases you get a super highway all to your self until it hits the first point and then you join the rest of everyone on the speed restricted permanent roadwork's part of the net...

I often see this... Telstras speed test shows full speed... but pages loads like the old days... as in dial up days.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
22 Mar 2019 2:28PM
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I'm getting 45mbps and using 6mbps maximum.

If, and as far as I can tell it doesn't, ever drop to below 6mbps I'll start to notice. Until then I won't notice. Updates download when I am sleeping. Max speed not an issue.

What does bug me is that I used to have a nice, single modem/wi-fi router, and now I have both a modem and a router, and there are wires everywhere, and it is no longer in the centre of the house, because HFC.

GPA
WA, 2528 posts
22 Mar 2019 1:38PM
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^^^
Same - kids complaining low signal strength in the bedrooms... time to move out I tell them!

FormulaNova
WA, 15084 posts
22 Mar 2019 2:23PM
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^^^
Same - kids complaining low signal strength in the bedrooms... time to move out I tell them!


Of course, you can fix that, but not if you want them to move out.

westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
22 Mar 2019 2:27PM
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That's your wi-Fi setup, not the NBN.

GPA
WA, 2528 posts
22 Mar 2019 3:00PM
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^^^
I know - but I had it sorted previously. iiNet's NBN WiFi gear not as good.

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
28 Mar 2019 3:42AM
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I would argue that we even qualify as developed

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
28 Mar 2019 12:18PM
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That's your wi-Fi setup, not the NBN.


The NBN has forced me onto HFC. The only cable outlet is purposely in the corner of the living room, which is at one end of the house. I used to connect to a phone line, which was purposely placed in the middle of the house. I also need 2x power points, and 2x ethernet cables now.

I have tried using one of those powerline network extenders, but they are ignorantly designed to take up an entire wall outlet, both of the plugs, which leaves no room for anything else. And they don't work in a power board.

www.netgear.com.au/home/products/networking/powerline/PLW1000.aspx

It's kinda ironic that my overall speed and reliability has increased, but simply because my cable is at one end of the house it has dropped overall. (I rent).

I do have the option of using the cable outlet in the bedroom, at the other end of the house. There's a hole in the bucket.

Overall it's pretty good though, if somewhat messy and not as good, nor simple, as fibre-to-the-home would be.

rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
28 Mar 2019 9:52AM
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westozwind said..
That's your wi-Fi setup, not the NBN.




Overall it's pretty good though, if somewhat messy and not as good, nor simple, as fibre-to-the-home would be.




Fibre to the home requires an NTD (essentially another router), a "dedicated" power point, and if you opt for it, the battery back up.
All this permanently mounted on the wall...

If you're lucky (and know that you can force the issue) NBN will install that whereyouwant them to be in the house - if you're unlucky (and get fobbed off by the NBN Tech) it will go on the wall closest to the point of entry to the house - could be your bedroom, could be your loungeroom.


kiterboy
2614 posts
28 Mar 2019 9:56AM
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dusta said..

FormulaNova said..
I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.



we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg








*gasp!

How could you contradict the resident expert of everything??

Mark _australia
WA, 23452 posts
28 Mar 2019 10:03AM
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NBN - numpties- yeah....

" Your Telstra service on the nbn? network may be interrupted on 3 April 2019 between 11:00pm and 6:00am, as maintenance is scheduled to be performed by nbn co in your area. The service disruption will include calls, if you need to make emergency calls (000), please use your mobile or an alternative option."


So then what date is that? Starting on the 2nd? Starting on the 3rd?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
28 Mar 2019 1:46PM
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rod_bunny said..


That is most appropriate location in my home.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
28 Mar 2019 1:46PM
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Mark _australia said..
NBN - numpties- yeah....

" Your Telstra service on the nbn? network may be interrupted on 3 April 2019 between 11:00pm and 6:00am, as maintenance is scheduled to be performed by nbn co in your area. The service disruption will include calls, if you need to make emergency calls (000), please use your mobile or an alternative option."


So then what date is that? Starting on the 2nd? Starting on the 3rd?


Yes.

FormulaNova
WA, 15084 posts
28 Mar 2019 11:25AM
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kiterboy said..

dusta said..


FormulaNova said..
I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.




we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg








*gasp!

How could you contradict the resident expert of everything??


Oh man, are you trawling through old posts now trying to chase me. If you read a little further, you will see where someone else points out that the speed in the post is greater than 100Mbps, so its not an NBN service.

I now know that comprehension is not your strong point, but no one has contradicted me on the info I provided. I merely said that the recommendations on whirlpool were that Aussie Broadband was a good idea.

I don't know if I should feel flattered or creeped out... oh no, it's obvious, I know the answer to that one

kiterboy
2614 posts
28 Mar 2019 1:22PM
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FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..


dusta said..



FormulaNova said..
I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.





we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg








*gasp!

How could you contradict the resident expert of everything??



Oh man, are you trawling through old posts now trying to chase me. If you read a little further, you will see where someone else points out that the speed in the post is greater than 100Mbps, so its not an NBN service.

I now know that comprehension is not your strong point, but no one has contradicted me on the info I provided. I merely said that the recommendations on whirlpool were that Aussie Broadband was a good idea.

I don't know if I should feel flattered or creeped out... oh no, it's obvious, I know the answer to that one


huh?

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
28 Mar 2019 1:51PM
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kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..


kiterboy said..



dusta said..




FormulaNova said..
I would say stay away from the cheapy providers, tpg, iinet, and the like, as they offer great speeds 'upto' whatever they say. In reality they are offering high speeds across a lot of people, so the performance may be great or may not. Usually not so good in peak times, because that's when everyone wants to use it.

The whirlpool forums were often saying Aussie Broadband were the best for the ratio of bandwidth versus the number of subscribers, so I would go with them.






we just left aussie broadband . no that great , backend is **** .

currently on tpg









*gasp!

How could you contradict the resident expert of everything??




Oh man, are you trawling through old posts now trying to chase me. If you read a little further, you will see where someone else points out that the speed in the post is greater than 100Mbps, so its not an NBN service.

I now know that comprehension is not your strong point, but no one has contradicted me on the info I provided. I merely said that the recommendations on whirlpool were that Aussie Broadband was a good idea.

I don't know if I should feel flattered or creeped out... oh no, it's obvious, I know the answer to that one



huh?








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