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Millenial serfs and clerks will be back!

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Created by ColoColo > 9 months ago, 14 Jun 2016
ColoColo
QLD, 130 posts
14 Jun 2016 2:09PM
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I predict jobs or at least jobs that someone or a business can offer you will dry up by 2030-2040.

We are at the cusp of a revolution in job types and what people in the future will be doing, and I bet it will be closer to how "serfs" and "clerks" used to provide a service to other people/businesses.

You will have to create your OWN work.

www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2014/feb/17/unemployment-rate-same-10-years-ago-but-what-ahead-worry

futuristspeaker.com/business-trends/2-billion-jobs-to-disappear-by-2030/

And that's not a bad thing really. Yeah sure, computers and machines will take over a lot (most?) of our current working skills - mainly repetative work like factory workers, some admin and general process type work. But I doubt they will take over everything. And the notion of driver-less cars comes to fruition, it will only be if the cars and the road networks are created to avoid ZERO collisions. That's a huge industry in itself that will lose millions of jobs.

So if you have the following skills, I reckon you'll be way better off...


Robot designers, engineers, repairmen.
Robot dispatchers.
Robot therapists.
Robot trainers.
Robot fashion designers
App developers/software/programming
IT
Data Analysis and Business Intelligence
Service providers - menders, cooks, cleaners, general handy people that have skills with their hands
A lot of people will get into retail in some form or another in terms of buying and selling 2nd hand goods
Food providers
Farmers (IF we and the environment is kind to them)
Teachers, but not so much the rudimentary literacy skills, but skills in the above - especially IT. However this will mean a huge decline in general knowledge on history, arts and culture and of course skills in Maths, Science and Reading/Writing.

etc


cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
14 Jun 2016 10:04PM
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Read all about it here:- geca.co.nz/the-changing-face-of-the-future/

danw
WA, 163 posts
15 Jun 2016 10:05AM
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I admit being in my late 20s and saddled with reasonable debt from my education I worry about this. Probably shouldn't, not much has changed in the last few years. Nevertheless the rhetoric is there.

ColoColo
QLD, 130 posts
15 Jun 2016 2:30PM
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cisco said..

Read all about it here:- geca.co.nz/the-changing-face-of-the-future/


And the consequences of all that if it came true?

Over populations, pollution and rubbish everywhere.

Welcome to Elysium!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
17 Jun 2016 1:03PM
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ColoColo said..

cisco said..

Read all about it here:- geca.co.nz/the-changing-face-of-the-future/



And the consequences of all that if it came true?

Over populations, pollution and rubbish everywhere.

Welcome to Elysium!


Elysium did not make sense to me though I did not finish the movie. I thought if there was this place up there that was so good and life on Earth was so bad, surely someone down on Earth would do something about it. Criminals on Earth had the technology to send a space shuttle to the space station with people on board so why not send a missile that separates to dozens of warheads as it closes in on the space station and blow the space station up? If it came to a war between the people on Earth and those on the space station, if the Earth people got in a first strike like sending a shuttle up with an atomic bomb in it then that would be the end of the war.

I also thought it didn't really make much sense to have the wonderful health machines just on the space station. If one of the people up there decided to take it down to Earth and set up a business healing people they would become the richest person on both the Earth and the space station. If there was a prohibition on exporting the technology to Earth then someone would come up with a way around it as they always do because the incentive was incredible, crappy healthcare on Earth vs perfect health care on the space station.

Finally I thought the people on the space station didn't seem that bad, its not like they were eating babies sent up from Earth or using Earth people's heads for soccer balls. The people on the space station seemed like pretty normal sort of people enjoying their good life. Their good life didn't seem to be at the expense of the people on Earth. We didn't see space ships constantly being sent up to the space station to supply the people there with stuff they needed while the people on Earth starved. So why would the people on the space station put up with the injustice of the situation, especially when its clear there was a lot of money to be made by sharing the technology with the people on Earth.

So from what I saw its a bit of a morality tale to put something in the future what is happening now, how the rich westerners are closing their borders and their minds to the masses in other countries and not wanting to share their wealth. Unfortunately this message is a bit behind the times as the reality is western countries have slowed down their economic growth, most notably in Europe. Meanwhile many people in other countries are greatly improving their lives and their wealth especially through using improved technology.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
17 Jun 2016 1:52PM
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There's jobs that will never go away, my current job has a heavy reliance on other people stuffing up, I think I have solid job security for the time being, unless of course I stuff up...

GreenPat
QLD, 4098 posts
17 Jun 2016 5:39PM
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cisco said..

Read all about it here:- geca.co.nz/the-changing-face-of-the-future/

"Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years."


Good thing I work for a company at the cutting edge of a particular type of software...

Katut
50 posts
17 Jun 2016 9:15PM
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I'll think I will become a Undertaker

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
18 Jun 2016 11:26AM
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No. That is another dying industry. Couldn't help myself.

jn1
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18 Jun 2016 6:38PM
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ColoColo said..

I entered the workforce at the very end of the goldern era of computing (it wasn't called "IT" back then). If you had told me what was to play out, I wouldve laughed and laughed. I think anyone who takes a punt at long term job markets is barking mad.

TheRodder
WA, 321 posts
18 Jun 2016 5:55PM
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Having lived in Silicon Valley during that period, it has played out pretty much as expected. All the indicators and trends were there in the 80s. For instance, back then, the valley was mostly R&D, IC and disc manufacturing, now everything except R&D has almost completely been offshored.

Katut
50 posts
19 Jun 2016 12:28PM
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you dead certain of that Cisco

ColoColo
QLD, 130 posts
20 Jun 2016 10:44AM
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GreenPat said..

cisco said..

Read all about it here:- geca.co.nz/the-changing-face-of-the-future/

"Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years."



Good thing I work for a company at the cutting edge of a particular type of software...


HASTAC?




(www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages)

bobajob
QLD, 1535 posts
21 Jun 2016 3:10PM
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Robots can't lie can they or skirt their way around the truth, so sales jobs should be safe.



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