Select to expand quoteThePhil said..
No prizes for guessing my opinion on this one?
I can't really guess exactly as I tend to veer off to the left, but I think you are suggesting the following:
Allow free-market milk imports, and if China can produce it, fine, its a free market.
Then the political parties change as they generally do over time.
Then someone gets ill or dies from tainted milk from a free-market source where standards are not as exacting as ours.
You then criticise the then current government for falling asleep at the wheel and not having tight policies controlling the standards of imported milk, whilst at the same time saying that 'red-tape' needs to be removed.
How'd I go? Was that a good guess?
In reality is would do little....the farmers that are affected mostly milk goes mainly for export, and the world price has slumped 60%.
Biggest reason is the EU is the biggest producer it's biggest customer was Russia, which banned EU dairy in retaliation of EU sanctions over the Ukraine.
So EU is flooding the other markets.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..ThePhil said..
No prizes for guessing my opinion on this one?
I can't really guess exactly as I tend to veer off to the left, but I think you are suggesting the following:
Allow free-market milk imports, and if China can produce it, fine, its a free market.
Then the political parties change as they generally do over time.
Then someone gets ill or dies from tainted milk from a free-market source where standards are not as exacting as ours.
You then criticise the then current government for falling asleep at the wheel and not having tight policies controlling the standards of imported milk, whilst at the same time saying that 'red-tape' needs to be removed.
How'd I go? Was that a good guess?
Not at all, it's just don't use my taxes to give to farmers, (or car or steel companies, or anything else). No problem with them putting standards on imported milk.
Select to expand quotenods said..
In reality is would do little....the farmers that are affected mostly milk goes mainly for export, and the world price has slumped 60%.
Biggest reason is the EU is the biggest producer it's biggest customer was Russia, which banned EU dairy in retaliation of EU sanctions over the Ukraine.
So EU is flooding the other markets.
So if Abbott had been nicer to Putin, it could have been Australian cheese going in to Russia to replace that EU supply.
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..stuff
I would have thought you'd know the answers 
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..nods said..
In reality is would do little....the farmers that are affected mostly milk goes mainly for export, and the world price has slumped 60%.
Biggest reason is the EU is the biggest producer it's biggest customer was Russia, which banned EU dairy in retaliation of EU sanctions over the Ukraine.
So EU is flooding the other markets.
So if Abbott had been nicer to Putin, it could have been Australian cheese going in to Russia to replace that EU supply.
Putin put the ban on most of western world....after the Crimean invasion, So the MA plane was later.
But the EU is giving EU farmers 500 million compensation!
What ever happened to real milk
You know the creamy tasty stuff that came in a glass bottle , I used to nick the odd bottle on the way to school or on my paper round,
When you swigged it left a white moustache and was best mates with a mcvitiees chocolate digestive or hob nob biscuits
What's that watered down white crap we get
Today, I've tasted better powdered milk
Bring back the real stuff I say and I'd gladly pay decent money
Furk it bring back the milkman deliver the stuff fresh to your door, people pay top dollar for ****e fast food to be delivered, you can even follow the crap on a GPS phone tracker ,
What's the furk is going on with peoples lives
Select to expand quotecauncy said..
What ever happened to real milk
You know the creamy tasty stuff that came in a glass bottle , I used to nick the odd bottle on the way to school or on my paper round,
When you swigged it left a white moustache and was best mates with a mcvitiees chocolate digestive or hob nob biscuits
What's that watered down white crap we get
Today, I've tasted better powdered milk
Bring back the real stuff I say and I'd gladly pay decent money
Furk it bring back the milkman deliver the stuff fresh to your door, people pay top dollar for ****e fast food to be delivered, you can even follow the crap on a GPS phone tracker ,
What's the furk is going on with peoples lives
How long do you reckon a bottle of milk would sit on your doorstep before some knob decided he wanted it more than you, these days?
Select to expand quotecauncy said..
What ever happened to real milk
You know the creamy tasty stuff that came in a glass bottle , I used to nick the odd bottle on the way to school or on my paper round,
When you swigged it left a white moustache and was best mates with a mcvitiees chocolate digestive or hob nob biscuits
What's that watered down white crap we get
Today, I've tasted better powdered milk
Bring back the real stuff I say and I'd gladly pay decent money
Furk it bring back the milkman deliver the stuff fresh to your door, people pay top dollar for ****e fast food to be delivered, you can even follow the crap on a GPS phone tracker ,
What's the furk is going on with peoples lives
Now you're talking! I was brought up in Tanzania to Pommie parents and the milk there was risky, TB, so all milk was powdered.
We used to go back to the UK every couple of years and there was this nectar which got delivered early morning, started a love affair with milk which lasted until four years ago. I very rarely touch it now. The stuff they sell in supermarkets is ****e.
Anyway, it's not nearly as good for you as they used to say. Stopping drinking it made a marked difference to my health, no more mucus problems.
Select to expand quoteBuster fin said...cauncy said..
What ever happened to real milk
You know the creamy tasty stuff that came in a glass bottle , I used to nick the odd bottle on the way to school or on my paper round,
When you swigged it left a white moustache and was best mates with a mcvitiees chocolate digestive or hob nob biscuits
What's that watered down white crap we get
Today, I've tasted better powdered milk
Bring back the real stuff I say and I'd gladly pay decent money
Furk it bring back the milkman deliver the stuff fresh to your door, people pay top dollar for ****e fast food to be delivered, you can even follow the crap on a GPS phone tracker ,
What's the furk is going on with peoples lives
How long do you reckon a bottle of milk would sit on your doorstep before some knob decided he wanted it more than you, these days?
Ages as most have people some kind of trendy food allergie or intolerance
quite simply the farmers should band together and sell their milk to china if they are unhappy with the prices they are getting . I have just spent two weeks in shenyang which is northern china by the Nth Koren border and a 1kg bag of devondale full cream milk powder was selling for $35 AUD . Yup $35 AUD .
Select to expand quotedusta said..
quite simply the farmers should band together and sell their milk to china if they are unhappy with the prices they are getting . I have just spent two weeks in shenyang which is northern china by the Nth Koren border and a 1kg bag of devondale full cream milk powder was selling for $35 AUD . Yup $35 AUD .
Agree,
They should create some sort of co-op farmer lead enterprise just like Murray Goulburn or Fonterra.
Wait hang on........
Select to expand quotedusta said..
quite simply the farmers should band together and sell their milk to china if they are unhappy with the prices they are getting . I have just spent two weeks in shenyang which is northern china by the Nth Koren border and a 1kg bag of devondale full cream milk powder was selling for $35 AUD . Yup $35 AUD .
Agree, there is a big demand for milk overseas. I used to live in Hong Kong and milk was around four times more expensive there than it was in Australia at the time.
Select to expand quoteMobydisc said..dusta said..
quite simply the farmers should band together and sell their milk to china if they are unhappy with the prices they are getting . I have just spent two weeks in shenyang which is northern china by the Nth Koren border and a 1kg bag of devondale full cream milk powder was selling for $35 AUD . Yup $35 AUD .
Agree, there is a big demand for milk overseas. I used to live in Hong Kong and milk was around four times more expensive there than it was in Australia at the time.
MG and Fonterra already supply to China.
They way over-cooked the forecast to what the Chinese market would take and called in extra from their company owned farms, the ones you see on tv complaining about how hard done by they are.
Add that to a global fall in commodity milk price and you get the situation these farmers are now in.
MG retrospectively paid them as per the contracts they signed, hence the massive drop in farm gate price.
They had to drop the price, they have a legal responsibility to make money for their shareholders, however being a co-op the farmers themselves are the shareholders. Go figure.
No government milk levy should ever be put in place, you didnt hear the farmers crying poor 2 years ago when the commodity price was through the roof and they all went out and bought brand new John Deers.
And it sets a massive precedence to any Aussie export industry that is subject to global commodity price fluctuations.
I can't recall the farmers complaining when skim milk powder was worth nearly $5,000 a tonne on the world market, now it's down around $2,000. Sure they need to make money but they're selling milk products in a global market and are subject to market supply and demand.
Everyone complains, me, you and farmers... We all complain because we all want more, that's the way we are..
