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Melbourne Cup dodginess

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Created by Mark _australia > 9 months ago, 5 Nov 2014
Mark _australia
WA, 23535 posts
5 Nov 2014 10:04PM
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If you place a bet and the horse later gets scratched cos it has an ingrown toenail or a funny cough, you get your $$$ back.
Not really a better, only heard that this year so correct me if I am wrong?


Now this year, the bosses of the racing mob sent a vet to check on the favourite BEFORE the race. Long before....
They knew something was up.
The next day the favourite then died, having not even finished the race.

So why was he still the favourite on the morning of the race?

Why not scratched? Why no $$$ back for the punters?

I bet if you looked at how many sizable bets were placed on the favourite every year, this year would be waay down, due to those in the know.

Don't give a flying fart about my $5 but it is dodgy as all blazes, surely...?


lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
6 Nov 2014 1:08AM
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and the conspiracy theories start......
Im off to put my tin hat on
Off to HEAVY WEATHER lol

I read on the interwebs(so it must be true) that the horse was scratched cause it wouldnt take its burka off in a public place and its grassy methane gas was increasing the chemtrails. Thank god for the true version of the events on social media.

Razzonater
2224 posts
5 Nov 2014 10:23PM
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This reminds me of phar lap, all a bit sinister

Mark _australia
WA, 23535 posts
5 Nov 2014 10:39PM
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OK pisstakers:

Scratching for an injury is obvious.
Then if they vet check one horse out of 24 and it stays in the comp that is fine - there always will be a grey area between fit and unfit of course.

But shouldn't they have to disclose it?

No conspiracy there - the officials made a vet go check a horse and didn't tell the public. That is ripe for corrupt activity.
Not exactly open and accountable

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
6 Nov 2014 1:55AM
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How do you predict a heart attack??
Unless your heaps old and unfit and overweight, place my bet on poledancers lol, which the horse wasn't,,, I think its just one of those things.
If you could plan on making heaps of coin from a horse having a heart attack all the owners of the poor horse would have put their livelihood betting on the other horses??

Mark _australia
WA, 23535 posts
5 Nov 2014 11:08PM
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I never said anyone could predict a heart attack. The organisers sent a vet over.
That is not ordinary, surely. Did it happen to many of the other horses?

The owners chose to let it race. If they withdrew it, punters get their coin back.

But if the owners and /or organisers choose to keep it running and tell nobody that is unfair. All those who knew it got a special vet visit would not bet on it, but others do.

Like insider trading.

They should have to disclose it, cos it is at least something that would enable those 'in the know' to be corrupt.








Haydn24
QLD, 473 posts
6 Nov 2014 1:17AM
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Horse racing is probably the second most corrupt sport in australia, behind greyhound racing. Absolute mugs behind the scene. Poor Admire Rakti, should have been scratched but it may have been hard to tell.

Mackerel
WA, 313 posts
5 Nov 2014 11:46PM
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Gambling would not exist if it wasn't in the house's favour.

That race may have been dodgy - don't really know?

But I can tell you, that if you expect horse racing to be a transparent form of gambling then wake the hell up.

It's the bloody races - next people will expect the pirate bay to only have HD movies...

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
6 Nov 2014 6:34AM
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These laws on disclosure are enforced in the racing game. Gai Waterhouse was fined $5500 for non-disclosure of the condition and treatment of More Joyous before her failure in the 2013 All Aged Stakes. You might have seen the flair up between her and John Singleton on the TV.

saltiest1
NSW, 2566 posts
6 Nov 2014 9:51AM
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Ted the Kiwi said..
These laws on disclosure are enforced in the racing game. Gai Waterhouse was fined $5500 for non-disclosure of the condition and treatment of More Joyous before her failure in the 2013 All Aged Stakes. You might have seen the flair up between her and John Singleton on the TV.


$5500 is the small change in her pocket.

R1DER
WA, 1472 posts
6 Nov 2014 8:05AM
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lotofwin said..
How do you predict a heart attack??




Inject it with some drugs.

Razzonater
2224 posts
6 Nov 2014 8:54AM
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I wasn't pulling the piss mark, I reckon your actually spot on. I do think its a bit sinister too the horse was clear favourite, apparently in its prime. The vets may of new something was wrong but the public don't get to know. Yet they still let the horse race and die

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
6 Nov 2014 5:03PM
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or maybe the horse just had a heart attack out of the blue like many young fit peaple do.
Dunno but I think you can say goodbye to your 5 bucks.

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
6 Nov 2014 10:58PM
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As a rule I stay away from race tracks...Too many slow horses and fast women.....

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
6 Nov 2014 10:35PM
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Mark _australia said..


I bet if you looked at how many sizable bets were placed on the favourite every year, this year would be waay down, due to those in the know.






Ummm Mark, if there weren't a lot of big bets placed on the favourite this year, wouldn't it then be...kinda...not the favourite?

The horse that has the most money bet on it - that's the favourite yeah?

Or am I missing something?

Mark _australia
WA, 23535 posts
7 Nov 2014 8:32AM
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^^ talking about on the day. Those in the know would know, ya know?

VB MAN
1156 posts
7 Nov 2014 10:58AM
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Skid said..
As a rule I stay away from race tracks...Too many slow horses and fast women.....


I hear ya

Last time I bet on a horse they had to pay the jockey overtime

LateStarter
WA, 589 posts
7 Nov 2014 11:54AM
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Ah Melbourne Cup day, its like New Years Eve at 3pm but with animal cruelty. Its the one day a year where half the population dress up like a defendant in an assault case, while the other half think its 'fascinating' to wear a paper mache chicken on their heads.

Horse racing is a mugs game.

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
7 Nov 2014 2:12PM
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LateStarter said..
Ah Melbourne Cup day, its like New Years Eve at 3pm but with animal cruelty. Its the one day a year where half the population dress up like a defendant in an assault case, while the other half think its 'fascinating' to wear a paper mache chicken on their heads.

Horse racing is a mugs game.


Perfectly said.

gavnwend
WA, 1373 posts
10 Nov 2014 6:54PM
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the stewards should of. picked up on the favorite that died. one it was a cow to get into the gate.it was frothing at the mouth.surely that would of been enough tell tale signs they should of scrathed it from the race.but no because there was to much money at stake.the horse racing industry have got blood on their hards.the horse might of lived if the vet had of flagged it.

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
11 Nov 2014 2:20PM
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Mark _australia said..
I never said anyone could predict a heart attack. The organisers sent a vet over.
That is not ordinary, surely. Did it happen to many of the other horses?

The owners chose to let it race. If they withdrew it, punters get their coin back.

But if the owners and /or organisers choose to keep it running and tell nobody that is unfair. All those who knew it got a special vet visit would not bet on it, but others do.

Like insider trading.

They should have to disclose it, cos it is at least something that would enable those 'in the know' to be corrupt.









Why do you assume the vets knew anything?

The horse could have been perfectly healthy at the time.

Mark _australia
WA, 23535 posts
11 Nov 2014 1:50PM
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^^ that does not matter.

My point is that if there is something that may affect the outcome (ie the odds) ..... but it is known to only a select few, it can raise issues of corruption.

Insider trading is illegal for that very reason.

I think betting is dumb and all the losers pouring money into the TAB after horses and dogs is really sad. But can't believe a last minute check on a horse is not publicised for fairness.


lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
11 Nov 2014 5:42PM
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Get over it, you lost $5, better luck next year. lol



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