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Macro Ideas: Macro Ban on Weapons

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Created by Macroscien > 9 months ago, 25 Aug 2022
Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 11:29AM
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Our Word is ready for new global movement
then forbid and prosecute advertising and propagating
Devices Intended to Kill People.
Simple;.
Like a Greta's Thunberg worry about melting icebergs
the rest of the world should worry about business of killing people on masses.

Advertising weapons, tanks, missiles and jet fighters. Propagating and providing funds should be forbidden and prosecuted.
Movement activists should be able to intervene now into any politician speech promoting weapons production, funding and sending anywhere in the world. Business of intentional killing people should be forbidden on the highest global level!

Lets MacroBan all weapons advertising !!

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 11:34AM
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To help understand the concept of MacroBan on weapons
lets consider following example>

Jestski Manufacturer equipped their vehicles with
blades intended to slice the swimmers !!

It is morally acceptable or worth to promote ??
Car with steel spikes to slice pedestrians?


What the difference it makes to promoting jet fighters to slash hundreds of people on the ground ??

Why every government proud to funds such activity?








Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 11:43AM
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One day in the future war veterans
will not be celebrated as heroes


but hidings from public
as criminals !!
What the moral difference it made for individual hired by mafia boss or government
if the target is the same?? Innocents people ??

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 11:52AM
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Does electric chair has the same advertising in mass media as arms and weapons ?

even if those deviced as intended to serve justice ??
after long track of courts process, evidences of crimes and still don't have public appeal .
But another one build to kill without any proves of guilt
get the highest publicity rating ?





Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 12:02PM
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at the end...

Should we still lie to ourselves??? why National Defense Forces??

not the Mistry of Wars as it should be and always was in the history ??

ok this part will meet strong opposition of governments anywhere in the world. So for scientific clarity we should now differentiate.

Any military personnel crossing border you own country's should be considered ; warrior- attacker , war mongrel
and

inside the country border

defense force employee
.

So as long as you stay inside you are defense personnel , once you cross a border you are war criminal.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 12:08PM
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It is matter of time only when Global Macro Ban on weapons and wars will be implemented.

It could happen this century or next.

Macro will receive post mortem Nobel Peace Prize

Seabreeze will be remember as monument in time the published that discovery idea : Wars and Weapons kills people !

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 12:19PM
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Hello Huston !!

we still may have a problem

The majority of action movies

promote assassins' and war warriors as templates heroes for our children ( and not only) )





Captain America saving school bus is not as cool as Ninja ripping the heart of the victim and eating it.

On another hand some websites and movies promoting peaceful procreations has similar audience
or even grater.O irony those with wars and covered with guns and arms
on the screen
are promoted and those with naked without are banned and prohibited.

As effect total global population is declining at least in those developed , "civilized" countries .

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 1:04PM
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Still wonder why
Aliens did not visit as
after so many years of advertising of our
advanced civilization on planet Earth?

Yep,
Our electromagnetic waves travel across Universe with speed of light

carrying all movies and news channels.

They are watching us with all 3 ayes wide open

So unless somewhere in Universe there isn't any race even worse and more predatory then humans,
we will not have any visitors soon.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 1:26PM
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So
How MacroBan on Weapons
may work in ( distant) future?
Obviously assuming that we still have enough time to implement MacroIdea..

1. All national weapons and arms must remain within boundary of the country ( air , land and water)

2> if any such military's object crosses national border United Nation will have rights to
a) confiscate
or b) annihilative
that object.Vessel , plane or vehicle, missile or radio transition.

3.If any country need to transfer their military equipment trough international territory - water or air
it must be done on civilian platform hire for the purpose or transporting item , in inactive form.

4.Presence of any military equipment outside national country border is prohibited by global UN ban ( MacroBan) .a) which means that every country is prohibited from keeping their military equipment and force on international territory
or
b) territory of another country ( regardless of their permit to do so or not )

This is example how Decalog of MarcoBan may looks in internationally recognized law format.

GWatto
QLD, 399 posts
25 Aug 2022 1:43PM
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Struth Macro what are you smoking?

GWatto
QLD, 399 posts
25 Aug 2022 1:46PM
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Actually now you have solved world peace, can you answer something which is troubling me?
Why no matter how hard I shake & rotate the toaster with the little trays removed, why do I still get crumbs dropping out walking it back to the cupboard?

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 1:53PM
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That will be very interesting exercise.

To make this international poll and ask countries .

Who will voluntary accept Macro Ban on Weapons ?

Which country will agree NOT TO military interference in other countries business??

and which one refuse ??

Well.

We need to make this same poll twice for each country:
a) ask politicians at helm the decide) ask the public of this country ( if there are willing to die for their political will and order) .

I am afraid that most public do not have spare panzer tank at home or fighter jet in garage and will not be interested in exporting those overseas.
Politicians are on another hand those citizens who left their brains at home
when arriving to work place.

Now completely different criteria apply when it comes to do their business.

Yep,
those countries that still refuse MacroBan
could be easily deal with
when Global Community Consensus is in place.


Yep
Here is United Nation warden cleaning the deck of the ship
with his forklift
from unlicensed weapon found hidden on fishing boat.

Now the country receive bill and ticket to pay for offence.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 2:11PM
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GWatto said..
Actually now you have solved world peace, can you answer something which is troubling me?
Why no matter how hard I shake & rotate the toaster with the little trays removed, why do I still get crumbs dropping out walking it back to the cupboard?






remember to turn the power off when you shake and turn your toaster, specifically before inserting something inside.



or just stick rather to the pie





bjw
QLD, 3686 posts
25 Aug 2022 2:23PM
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Macroscien said..
One day in the future war veterans
will not be celebrated as heroes


but hidings from public
as criminals !!
What the moral difference it made for individual hired by mafia boss or government
if the target is the same?? Innocents people ??


Some of the stupidest things written on this forum since Street SUP was a category.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 2:58PM
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bjw said..



Macroscien said..
One day in the future war veterans
will not be celebrated as heroes


but hidings from public
as criminals !!
What the moral difference it made for individual hired by mafia boss or government
if the target is the same?? Innocents people ??





Some of the stupidest things written on this forum since Street SUP was a category.




First natural reflex to attack seems to be similar nasty response.
But I found recently much more fulfilling polite treatment or ignoring offender.
In fact one may need to rich this higher level of self control and instead of smearing opponent with
meaningless :idiots, debit etc rather to withdraw those from own vocabulary completely,.

This obviously lead to next accusation of arrogance and superiority complex.
Yep,
Nobody is perfect.
Coming back to veterans- they should be rather treated as a victims of the systems.

Wars aren't proclaimed by nation as whole but mere politician official at the helm temporary.

Nobody ever did referendum in such important matter as participating or initiating the war with another country.

Most people don't want to die. Politicians give our victims or their families medals or something in gratification,
but in higher perspective every war ever carried on Earth could and should be avoided in first place.

I doubt that anybody could come with single example when the war was needed in whole Earth history.

But on another hand this subject of those victims of the war - veterans- are used again to attack those against war, like me.

There is no need for victim on either side, public or military.

Even those veterans the survived , becomes victims, need to live with their memories. So my criticism is not on military personnel as such but a system that require human sacrifice.

From moral perspective nobody could claim that given soldier is now free of any guilt because his minister of war ask him to go and kill other people, and he just did, what was asked for.

Obviously everybody here will instantly come with claim that if that is your minister to send your soldiers to kill overseas , that is perfectly fine, But when another country minister send their soldier to kill you and your family, that is bad.

UncleBob
NSW, 1300 posts
25 Aug 2022 3:35PM
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bjw said..



Macroscien said..
One day in the future war veterans
will not be celebrated as heroes


but hidings from public
as criminals !!
What the moral difference it made for individual hired by mafia boss or government
if the target is the same?? Innocents people ??





Some of the stupidest things written on this forum since Street SUP was a category.




Agreed, not only stupid but downright ignorant and offensive, if I could I would ask the forum owners if this sort of garbage is really the content/contributor that they want here. Gladly Micro has prevented me from viewing his posts, which enhances my experience here.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 3:38PM
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I could see there are still few that have difficulty to grasp the concept of
-non violence
-anti war
propaganda spread by me above.

So lets imagine following hypothetical example.

There was another big asteroid strike on Earth.





Only Europe survived and all the rest of the world is wiped out.

Luckily Europe is now United and peaceful.

But still have 5% of EU GPD allocated for defense forces.

But there is nobody left to fight on !!

All the rest of the world is gone !!

What we could do with all our tanks, jet fighters and missiles and nuclear warheads if there is nobody to bomb anymore ?? Should we disbanding not all our militaries , send home to run on tractors and farms ??
or
maybe split our United and Peaceful Europe in few pieces again so we could fight again ?

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 4:54PM
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For those smart observers , readers here that needs still some guidance.
I am not proposing yet total abolishment of military forces within each country.
That will be utopian at current civilization evolution level.
I am asking for mere civilian control over military establishment not the vice verse.

Our pyramids should work like that.

1> There is public in the country that want the war with another nation

2.Public vote and in referendum ask their Prime Minister to do preparation for war effort

3. That Prime Minister ask his Minister of War to get some weapons and people ready to die here

4.Whole nation goes to fight enemy, or give up whole idea in first place.....

but in most cases that pyramid stand on his head

1. There is Minister of War that looks for candidate in world he want to fight.

2.He make a plea to Prime Minister to give him all money he needs and a bit more.

3> Prime Minister goes to Nation and take what he needs without even asking for permission.

4> Whole Nation fight that unwanted war and pay for it

5. Next few years there is new ministerial position, new opportunity, new opponent to be found for war.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
25 Aug 2022 5:45PM
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My post is designed as intellectual play
for refined audience.

Nobody is clapping?

Should Shakespeare be worried that near by cabaret attracted more crowds?



Look.

Fast forward 200 years and here it is Pleasure Hub on every corner and still only one Shakespeare.

My Julia don't need to spread the legs and show titts.

My truth here is already naked
and waiting
and waiting
and waiting.....






yep

fast forward next 500 years and Macro will do big splash.
All I need is to get this rock a bit higher....
and higher
and higher
there must be end of this hill and blue water behind

psychojoe
WA, 2237 posts
25 Aug 2022 4:32PM
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Ramble on, Macro.
This is far more coherent and entertaining than your previous efforts.

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
25 Aug 2022 9:59PM
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What about my idea of a seal team of rapists?. Seal team six. They don't even have to be gay, just willing to do what it takes. Think about it. Some macho leader not towing the line. Trumpy riings them and says "oi can't pull yr head in" they refuse. Large bearded men silently parachute in . They hold down recalcitrant world leader and brutally and continuously sodomise for several hours. Then leave without a trace, as silently as they came (sic)
For several days the leader is nowhere to be seen. He's in the shower with a bar of soapp. A broken shell. He dare not tell anyone or fear humiliation and losing face. He's a macho head of state. Later at the conference, standing beside the US president. The security man... No it can't be! Us pres winks. How's your position on Taiwan now motherfxcker? Do I need to send cpl punishment here back for another visit?

ratz
WA, 481 posts
26 Aug 2022 1:00AM
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need to change your meds macro....

psychojoe
WA, 2237 posts
26 Aug 2022 6:41AM
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myusernam said..
What about my idea of a seal team of rapists?. Seal team six. They don't even have to be gay, just willing to do what it takes. Think about it. Some macho leader not towing the line. Trumpy riings them and says "oi can't pull yr head in" they refuse. Large bearded men silently parachute in . They hold down recalcitrant world leader and brutally and continuously sodomise for several hours. Then leave without a trace, as silently as they came (sic)
For several days the leader is nowhere to be seen. He's in the shower with a bar of soapp. A broken shell. He dare not tell anyone or fear humiliation and losing face. He's a macho head of state. Later at the conference, standing beside the US president. The security man... No it can't be! Us pres winks. How's your position on Taiwan now motherfxcker? Do I need to send cpl punishment here back for another visit?


Allow me to draw a long bow here.
Your method is as outdated as antibiotics, (even though they do work)
The idea is not to kill the problem but to outpopulate it with good.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
26 Aug 2022 10:17AM
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What happens to Macro's enemies list once weapons are banned?

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
26 Aug 2022 12:15PM
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Mr Milk said..
What happens to Macro's enemies list once weapons are banned?







Yep , Since Macro proclaimed this world wide ban on weapons,
How long it takes to ridd them all now?
Should we dump them into ocean or rather dig deep underground landfill?

I propose to load them all on Elons SpaceX Starships and send to Mars.

You never know. Settlers may need them to fight Aliens or even native Martians !




Now according to new Macro Formula,
whole Nation should decide
Who want to fight on ?
Predator above?
or
Martian below?
We need referendum before we invite our guests
for friendly games , visit.




Wait a moment!
Should we invite them here to Earth to have a fight ?
or rather we should pack our gear and get to their planet for
Olympic Nuke Games?




Yes, I did send short tweet with invitation
to their Minister of Peace Making Expedition

hmmmm, nice hair cut,

so

if that is female from Interplanetary Social Services
one may wonder how Minister of War may looks like

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
26 Aug 2022 12:57PM
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Our experts calculated
and performed already experiments,
on Mars !


Due to lower gravity
1/3 of that on Earth




our friendly drones could now
carry 3 x more explosive TNT !!


TonyAbbott
924 posts
29 Aug 2022 7:59AM
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Unmedicated Macro is a weapon

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
29 Aug 2022 3:22PM
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www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/australias-transition-to-nuclear-powered-submarines-could-run-into-the-2060s/%23:~:text%3DAustralia%27s%2520transition%2520to%2520nuclear%252Dpowered,Marcus%2520Hellyer%2520and%2520Andrew%2520Nicholls&ved=2ahUKEwiKi5X5pev5AhV0R3wKHbCFBwIQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw033kImczgp3URHfHXcenut


New slogan:
Pay now, buy later!
I wonder how many from us will be still there at 2070 -89 to see our subs delivery( small delay must be expexted as usual).
But luckily we managed to pay in advance so our supplier is not so much in worry .
One may worry if supplier even will be there or completely new set of 50 independent nations.
What was the math there? $150 bln dollars now, 6 subs 60 years later?
Sounds terrific for me, since I don't want to see any weapons and for sure will not see those 6 too.

As usual Macro has some good idea for design improvements,.

Since more likely that Russia now refuse to sell us titanium to build our underwater fish,
we could make our sub from rubber ?

Like a ducky? a giant rubber nuclear Ducky that don't even need to submerge!

Chinese will be so confused that will not even suspect how danger our nuclear ducky is !



Now thanks to saving on material costs and utilizing rubber instead of titanium
we may have now 7 nuclear duckies
instead of only 6 subs for the same $150 bln dollars!!How genius it is !!

Wooow. we could solve another problem same time !! If by any chance Australia will split also like US into separate nations, then each state could have their own NUCLEAR DUCKIE !!

ACT may needs some additional legs or even better wings to have own duckie close to the nest far from ocean water.

yeep,
there are also some problems to be expected....

what is Tasmania after split decided to build silk road to China and
doesn't require Nuclear Duckie anymore
to peck China in the head??

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
29 Aug 2022 4:04PM
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One more "oooops"
Since advertising of weapons' is prohibited by
MacroBan
our Super Weapon Nuclear Duckie
advertisement may looks like that :


Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
2 Sep 2022 10:10PM
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We have first success of our Macro-Anti-War propaganda.

Google Team refused to cooperate in military projects ( follow Marco sublime telepathic transmission I suspect )
( In short Google was asked to use their resources to find targets for military's destruction on their maps and they refused to comply)


www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-31/google-workers-step-up-protests-of-1-2-billion-israeli-contract

I hope that very soon that whole scientific community of Planet Earth will join forces in opposition to military dictatorships engraved into each government ,
and the rest of population will follow .

By the year 2050 we will have whole planet Earth not only running on renewable green energy
but also free of military personnel.

Carantoc
WA, 7188 posts
3 Sep 2022 10:06AM
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Macroscien said..
...By the year 2050 we will have whole planet Earth ...... free of military personnel.


....And then Macro can signal his home planet and the invasion will begin.

2051 will be forever remembered as the great Earth party of probing.



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