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Human food only - not fit for animal consumption

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Created by Harrow > 9 months ago, 25 Mar 2022
Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
25 Mar 2022 12:02PM
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Some prawn dumplings at the local supermarket. WTF, isn't this supposed to be the other way around?

I'm guessing this is an admission that disease is rife in the prawn farms?

Subsonic
WA, 3372 posts
25 Mar 2022 10:23AM
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Bit of a wild stab in the dark, but im guessing its probably got more to do with one of the other ingredients. Like chocolate is bad for dogs.

but really, who feeds their pet dolphin prawn dumplings? My pet great white only gets the best angus beef or tasty tuna halfs till hes fat enough to be dropped in the pool next door with Willy (my pet orca).

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
25 Mar 2022 2:15PM
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Subsonic said..
Bit of a wild stab in the dark, but im guessing its probably got more to do with one of the other ingredients. Like chocolate is bad for dogs.

but really, who feeds their pet dolphin prawn dumplings? My pet great white only gets the best angus beef or tasty tuna halfs till hes fat enough to be dropped in the pool next door with Willy (my pet orca).

A bit of googling and I found out it's an Australian biosecurity law requirement for imported products containing uncooked prawn meat to have the message marked on the package.

researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/id/eprint/42712/1/final-uncooked-prawn-imports.pdf

It seems one issue is that when your local supermarket or fish shop receives raw prawns from overseas, they are in plastic packaging that has the same statement printed on it, but then they are removed from the packaging to be displayed in the store and the consumer never sees the message. That means some people are buying raw prawns from their supermarket that come from overseas and are then using them as bait in Australia, which isn't supposed to happen.

Mark _australia
WA, 23506 posts
25 Mar 2022 5:15PM
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Sorta makes sense as might have something it it that's bad for fish, but can't hurt us. Even a bacteria etc.

As an aside, you reminded me of when I went to a deli and asked about bait - girl about 16y/o on counter had no idea. Explained to her what it was for - still a bit of a funny perplexed look. Normal aussie kid in Perth. No idea about bait. What is the world coming to?

Crusoe
QLD, 1197 posts
25 Mar 2022 7:37PM
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There is a disease that's called White Spot. They are desperately trying to keep it out of Australian waters. There is already a quarantine zone around Brisbane to try and stop the spread. Imported prawns have it. It's safe to eat affected prawns but not good for wild prawn numbers. That is why you can't use it for bait. Pretty f#@ked that they allow for them to even be imported.

woko
NSW, 1765 posts
26 Mar 2022 6:52AM
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We have to allow crap imports so we can export the really top class stuff that we don't even get to see

Mark _australia
WA, 23506 posts
26 Mar 2022 8:50AM
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I'd say not too many aussie companies making prawn dumplings?

nicephotog
NSW, 276 posts
27 Mar 2022 5:48PM
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Subsonic said..
Bit of a wild stab in the dark, but im guessing its probably got more to do with one of the other ingredients. Like chocolate is bad for dogs.

but really, who feeds their pet dolphin prawn dumplings? My pet great white only gets the best angus beef or tasty tuna halfs till hes fat enough to be dropped in the pool next door with Willy (my pet orca).



A bit of googling and I found out it's an Australian biosecurity law requirement for imported products containing uncooked prawn meat to have the message marked on the package.

researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/id/eprint/42712/1/final-uncooked-prawn-imports.pdf

It seems one issue is that when your local supermarket or fish shop receives raw prawns from overseas, they are in plastic packaging that has the same statement printed on it, but then they are removed from the packaging to be displayed in the store and the consumer never sees the message. That means some people are buying raw prawns from their supermarket that come from overseas and are then using them as bait in Australia, which isn't supposed to happen.



AFAIK any commercially sold product in Australia not merely human consumption but animal consumption also, Is compulsory to contain THREE declarations,
1. Ingredients list
2. Nutritional "composite". *** Most people think this is health but is actually a compulsory audit chemical analysis.
3. Declaration listing of all ingredients proven in medical science to be known to cause allergic reaction or have quantative limitation of consumption or finally known sufferers and or with contraindication possibilities consumed with other substances.

E.g. I kept bees and "raw honey" (untreated) must have the above declarations though it principally sugar and water.

HotBodMon
NSW, 612 posts
28 Mar 2022 11:37AM
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nicephotog said..

Harrow said..



Subsonic said..
Bit of a wild stab in the dark, but im guessing its probably got more to do with one of the other ingredients. Like chocolate is bad for dogs.

but really, who feeds their pet dolphin prawn dumplings? My pet great white only gets the best angus beef or tasty tuna halfs till hes fat enough to be dropped in the pool next door with Willy (my pet orca).




A bit of googling and I found out it's an Australian biosecurity law requirement for imported products containing uncooked prawn meat to have the message marked on the package.

researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/id/eprint/42712/1/final-uncooked-prawn-imports.pdf

It seems one issue is that when your local supermarket or fish shop receives raw prawns from overseas, they are in plastic packaging that has the same statement printed on it, but then they are removed from the packaging to be displayed in the store and the consumer never sees the message. That means some people are buying raw prawns from their supermarket that come from overseas and are then using them as bait in Australia, which isn't supposed to happen.




AFAIK any commercially sold product in Australia not merely human consumption but animal consumption also, Is compulsory to contain THREE declarations,
1. Ingredients list
2. Nutritional "composite". *** Most people think this is health but is actually a compulsory audit chemical analysis.
3. Declaration listing of all ingredients proven in medical science to be known to cause allergic reaction or have quantative limitation of consumption or finally known sufferers and or with contraindication possibilities consumed with other substances.

E.g. I kept bees and "raw honey" (untreated) must have the above declarations though it principally sugar and water.


4. Traceability

nicephotog
NSW, 276 posts
28 Mar 2022 4:51PM
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nicephotog said..










Harrow said..












Subsonic said..
Bit of a wild stab in the dark, but im guessing its probably got more to do with one of the other ingredients. Like chocolate is bad for dogs.

but really, who feeds their pet dolphin prawn dumplings? My pet great white only gets the best angus beef or tasty tuna halfs till hes fat enough to be dropped in the pool next door with Willy (my pet orca).













A bit of googling and I found out it's an Australian biosecurity law requirement for imported products containing uncooked prawn meat to have the message marked on the package.

researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/id/eprint/42712/1/final-uncooked-prawn-imports.pdf

It seems one issue is that when your local supermarket or fish shop receives raw prawns from overseas, they are in plastic packaging that has the same statement printed on it, but then they are removed from the packaging to be displayed in the store and the consumer never sees the message. That means some people are buying raw prawns from their supermarket that come from overseas and are then using them as bait in Australia, which isn't supposed to happen.













AFAIK any commercially sold product in Australia not merely human consumption but animal consumption also, Is compulsory to contain THREE declarations,
1. Ingredients list
2. Nutritional "composite". *** Most people think this is health but is actually a compulsory audit chemical analysis.
3. Declaration listing of all ingredients proven in medical science to be known to cause allergic reaction or have quantative limitation of consumption or finally known sufferers and or with contraindication possibilities consumed with other substances.

E.g. I kept bees and "raw honey" (untreated) must have the above declarations though it principally sugar and water.











4. Traceability




Quite right, and if it's the individual bee keeper, their registration number that goes on the hive, not just company or sole trader address.
And use by date designation.
Not sure about "perishable" and storage recommendation Or recycling but the listings on food packaging may ever reach tyranny and thus conform all other standard govt. policies.



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Harrow said..
Some prawn dumplings at the local supermarket. WTF, isn't this supposed to be the other way around?

I'm guessing this is an admission that disease is rife in the prawn farms?




I'm guessing this is an admission that disease is rife in the prawn farms?

With beekeeping, to send a hive interstate requires a special form for disease free declaration just as it does making a straight out later lodged sale of hive declaration.
Hive parts and tools also are not transferable as disease prevention management practice.

Reasonably I would say there is no doubt the warning is referring to disease prevention management practice! And totally legally binding authoritive instruction to the consumer.

Should've mentioned, it classified as "biosecurity law" , includes plants and vegitation the same way, e.g. those bins for fruit at the state border e.t.c.
Fishing also has such legislation.

And that is also what should not be done with off the shelf honey if you have bees but can help if it really has been dishelved and raided by human thieves. It's not a good practice, but I find if they recover and remain healthy and is done for a very small isolated separate set, the same bottle lasts for a long time so is proven to be clear, albeit.

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