You would have thought Google would have enlisted some local knowledge to work out how to approach this. They have really failed to understand Australian culture - "hey lets threaten them with taking away Google" - immediately gets the backs up of people who probably didn't really care that much about the issue.
And failed to identify that we will probably back the underdog, and that's the aussie government for companies the size of google/facebook.
For ads on Google, the advertiser pays Google for clicks, whereas the new code would require Google to pay news organisations for clicks. So it really is the opposite of the current model, and Google loses money instead of gaining it. Hence their threat to pull out.
Select to expand quotebobajob said..
Duck Google, DuckDuckGo
Yep... DuckDuckGo is your friend.
They don't track like Google and you still see content.
The downside is the adverts may not be as targeted but, is that really such a bad thing?
Possibly nobody here consider what a great services we do receive from Google , not paying at all.Free maps, emails, storage , video streaming.
Having to choose between Google and Australian Murdoch news business I would rather keep the first and forget about the second.
Possibly nobody also appreciate effort Google AI in finding answers to all our curios questions, seeking knowledge , data, facts.
I stil find it hard to believe how easy and accurate are Google answers to our questions expressed in simple words.
Do you wish to change now common saying:
Google it !
to
Duck it off ?
as to Microsoft binge engine there is nothing positive I could ever say and greed and manipulation is unmatched by any other company in the world.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
Possibly nobody here consider what a great services we do receive from Google , not paying at all.Free maps, emails, storage , video streaming.
it's not free, you are paying for the services by watching ads. It' basically one big advertising platform.
As others said there are usually alternatives, i can recommend mapy.cz for outdoor activities, I find quality/detail is better that google maps, it is outdoor oriented and you can download maps to your phone for offline use. I haven't tried them for navigation while driving but the function is there too.
Another option is openstreetmap.org, which works well for my needs (mountain biking) as I can load it to my Garmin bike computer.
all well and good, when I bought my phone years ago I downloaded a map program that worked well for me. But google updates removed it and won't let it back
I don't get it. If you need google to pay for news content you get no news on google. Is the government trying to suck up to all Australian media organisations to help them make more money? That's a great way of making sure they are all on your side. Control the media and you control the people.
Select to expand quotebillykiter said..
I don't get it. If you need google to pay for news content you get no news on google. Is the government trying to suck up to all Australian media organisations to help them make more money? That's a great way of making sure they are all on your side. Control the media and you control the people.
this is probably oversimplification but as far as I understand it, the government wants google to pay for publishing other people's news. Some other countries (I think France is one of them) have already made google to agree to similar deals.
In addition, the government also wants google to pay for posting links to Aus media web sites and I think this is the part that Google does not like.
I probably missed few other "details" of the proposed legislation 
Select to expand quotegs12 said..Macroscien said..
Possibly nobody here consider what a great services we do receive from Google , not paying at all.Free maps, emails, storage , video streaming.
it's not free, you are paying for the services by watching ads. It' basically one big advertising platform.
As others said there are usually alternatives, i can recommend mapy.cz for outdoor activities, I find quality/detail is better that google maps, it is outdoor oriented and you can download maps to your phone for offline use. I haven't tried them for navigation while driving but the function is there too.
Another option is openstreetmap.org, which works well for my needs (mountain biking) as I can load it to my Garmin bike computer.
Not free? ok next time I go to petrol station to get full tank I want also to refill in exchange for watching adverts on station walls.
As to alternative maps I remember well hassle with Garmin GPS going circles.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..gs12 said..Macroscien said..
Possibly nobody here consider what a great services we do receive from Google , not paying at all.Free maps, emails, storage , video streaming.
it's not free, you are paying for the services by watching ads. It' basically one big advertising platform.
As others said there are usually alternatives, i can recommend mapy.cz for outdoor activities, I find quality/detail is better that google maps, it is outdoor oriented and you can download maps to your phone for offline use. I haven't tried them for navigation while driving but the function is there too.
Another option is openstreetmap.org, which works well for my needs (mountain biking) as I can load it to my Garmin bike computer.
Not free? ok next time I go to petrol station to get full tank I want also to refill in exchange for watching adverts on station walls.
As to alternative maps I remember well hassle with Garmin GPS going circles.
I don't think you understand how advertising works.
they should pay.I cant post links but google "Tim Berners-Lee " and read the NYT article. Probably the only time the "i'm a sovereign entity" concept will ever be supported by non tin-hat wearers. :)
Select to expand quotebillykiter said..
I don't get it. If you need google to pay for news content you get no news on google. Is the government trying to suck up to all Australian media organisations to help them make more money? That's a great way of making sure they are all on your side. Control the media and you control the people.
Google does not (AFAIK) actually employ a live body to investigate/author/create news - they just copy and paste others efforts and use it to generate revenue as an aggregator. Its like the printers just run off a few 100K copies of their own tabloid off that day's plates of the Australian, and sell it at 99% profit in competition with the "Australian" they just got paid to print, just with their own sourced advertisements from coles/woolies etc that they also get paid for.....
