Evolution

I don't think we evolved directly from apes.
I think an alien spacecraft crashed into earth with a couple dozen aliens on it.
a few of those aliens were super intelligent about 3 of the dozen, they bred with apes out of necessity and may have had a few offspring.
The alien who was in charge of flying the intergalactic spacecraft and the mechanics and cleaners or the other 9 bred like rabbits with the other apes, so their genetics spread and multiplied many many many times more than the smarter ones.

After a few generations humans were made, the smarter ones were slower breeders, by now all the original aliens were dead.

Fast forward a few thousand years and the same genetic stock that crashed the spacecraft into earth, is the same genetic stock clogging lanes and driving with several forms of retardation on roads globally.

this is evolution

Perth. 95-98kph in the right lane of the freeway, all day every day.

The left lane sucks, too many entry and exit points with vehicles arriving from the left or leaving in front of you. On a perfect 3 lane road, no entry or exits the left lane should be the slowest, but but in reality your constantly slowing down or changing lanes to allow others in if you travel there.

Out of all the stupidity of the human race I wouldn't have thought that was the worst thing. Have you seen how councils operate these days.

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Mark _australia said..
Perth. 95-98kph in the right lane of the freeway, all day every day.

Isn't the speed limit the same in all 3 lanes? What do you recommend for the RH lane 99.95 - 99.98 kph? You'd need a speedo approved by GPSTC .

tomorrow I'm driving my farm truck from south of methandurah all the way to wangara and back. i will be doing 90kph at best
.once i hit the 3 lane section i will be in the middle lane because even after copious indicating cars will not let me move over to let the incoming lanes in . . just a heads up for the on the road from 7.30 t0 11.00.white 7 tonne mitsy with a white crane and harvey plates..give me a toot or a wave . i might even catch a glimpse of ya in my mirrors as you drive past me like I'm not even on the road. if you must cut in front of me to pull off the freeway i have the stopping distance of a 747

There's a phd in this. The demerit point data base is readily accessible. They've already found a terrific correlation between the number of demerit points held and the probability of the driver having a crash in the next 12 months. That would be a negative for natural selection.

But is there a correlation between demerit points held and the number of offspring begat by the driver? Opposing forces! Which one wins out?

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Ian K said..
There's a phd in this. The demerit point data base is readily accessible. They've already found a terrific correlation between the number of demerit points held and the probability of the driver having a crash in the next 12 months. That would be a negative for natural selection.

That sort of makes sense doesn't it? If someone is aware enough to avoid getting fined for speeding, maybe they are aware enough to not have an accident as well? The people that get caught speeding a lot clearly drive without too much care.

Does this mean that people that don't speed also don't have accidents? Surely not. Especially with the level of policing that we see where the only things that seems to get detected are speeding, so poor driving seems to be perfectly fine and therefore has no way to be correlated back to the number of accidents they have.

The problem with natural selection these days is that you can have as many kids as you want early enough and die out at an early age and still influence the population. Whether behavior is an intelligence thing or learned is a different argument again. I would wager that there are heaps of very intelligent people out there that have poor behaviors learned from their family.

what the hell are these 3 lane roads you talk about?
where I live we are getting excited as the giving are creating 3 different passing lane sections within 45K of town.
When fookin caravans arrive and thankyou Covid19 they have spread like flies. they get cranky as they are either tailgated by working grain carrying road trains or the likes my me who need to be there an hour ago.

these 3 lane roads sound like fun to create havoc with

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kiterboy said..If you're lucky! More like 85-90km/h

which would mean the speedo's in these cars are within [or very close to] the Australian Design Rules specification of 10% + 4klicks!

our i-30 speedo would read 100kmh, while GPS said a bit under 90kph,

when I replaced the tyres I went up a size, and now the speedo is near as dammit to bang on.

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AUS1111 said..

Ian K said..

Well if we assume that in years up to 1992 most demerit points were issued for speeding infringements, then yes. By a factor of 16 times more unlikely than for those carrying a lot of points

www.monash.edu/muarc/archive/our-publications/reports/muarc116

"Amongst the 500 highest scoring drivers, the "category of offence" and "demerit point level of offence" models were equally efficient in identifying the crash-involved drivers. For both these models, the proportion of drivers amongst the 500 highest scoring drivers who were subsequently involved in 1993-1994 crashes was 12.4%, ie. considerably greater than the 7.3% crash-involvement rate for the top 500 drivers identified by the base model which did not use prior offence data. The corresponding crash-involvement rate for all drivers in the database was 0.76%."

People who don't drive much are also less likely to accumulate demerit points or have accidents.

Wouldn't they also be less likely to know where the speed cameras are hidden? Either way a factor of 16 is a lot to take out by doing the probability against miles driven.

12.4 % just means that those sitting on a swag of demerit points are likely to have a prang that makes the data base every 8 years. 0.76% means most of us don't have a prang that would register on the data base in a lifetime of driving.

While we're on correlations another one we could do is to ask drivers to rate themselves 1 to 12
1 .. I'm a bit hit and miss
2
3
4
5
6 I'm about average
7
8
9
10
11
12 I'm excellent.

and correlate that with the number of demerit points they just happen to hold.

I just did a 735km drive on the east coast yesterday.
Got on the highway, set cruise control to 110km/hr,
Only touched the brakes in a couple of spots where only 100km/hr limit.
Stayed in the left lane, only in right lane when overtaking trucks and pensioners.
Didnt have one single car slow me down when in the right lane the whole journey. Was actually thinking how well everyone acted on the highway......................then I saw this thread on WA drivers lol

Yeh I'm first to admit right here and now the drivers over here are atrocious. I like driving in Sydney - assertive but generally courteous.

Over here omg it's a cluster F on the road. Only this afternoon I had to avoid not one but 4 seperate incidences over cars suddenly pulling into the lane I was in on the way home (only 17km) mind you). Then I got stuck behind some old cow going 50 in a 70 zone IN THE RIGHT LANE probably thinking how safe she was driving. Meanwhile chaos resigned around the stupid cow.

they say speed kills but so dip sh1t slow asses not going the damn speed limit.

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landyacht said..
tomorrow I'm driving my farm truck from south of methandurah all the way to wangara and back.

experiment results are in .drive was a success because i delayed and hour to allow the towsies to clean up the 3 car bingle at thomas rd. a big thanks to the local radio station that has a traffic report and that doesn't play the same song in the same day but plays the same day of songs all week.
didn't have to change gears the whole trip both ways. north bound had 1 young lady content to cruise at 80 that i had to queue to overtake and got cut off by only 3 vehicles. scary thought is that 2 of the vehicles were RAC vans. something to think about. southbound fully loaded was a smooth drive sitting on 95 sitting in the 2nd lane on a 4 lane section cos i knew that the left lane would end shortly, very little traffic and a fully loaded brick truck with trailer decided it was a great time to pass on the left and cut in front before the exit. .I got the feeling that cars respected loaded truck but not an empty one and the trucks respected a shiny truck but not an old one