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Drink coffee to combat obesity

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Created by Jupiter > 9 months ago, 1 Feb 2016
Jupiter
2156 posts
1 Feb 2016 12:23PM
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A "Dieting Guru" has discovered/invented a new celebrity diet in the USA.

No hard work is necessary. No stuffing around with the scales to weigh your every meal. No cutting, slicing and dicing, ever. You don't even need one of those food processors which turns ordinary vegetables and fruits into, wait for it..."Super food" because it smashes the living daylights out of poor vegetables and fruits !

So what is this nifty new "Super Diet"? It is the stuff many of us gulp down daily. It is coffee. Yes, coffee! But it is no simple coffee, or it won't give you that slim, trim, sexy good looks which turn men wild, and women weak at the knees. It is a very special coffee that comes with an equally unique name..."Bulletproof Coffee".

So surely the guru has some special techniques only known to himself? Yes, it is. But I can let you in on his secret. His beans are pre-processed to remove the "Mycotoxins", a mould formed during the fermentation process.

So what is so special about that as all beans were washed before being roasted anyway? Well, our guru must have a special technique to do it differently? May be some kind of "holly water" to wash the beans with ?

Now, you add butter from "grass-fed cows" and medium-chain Triglycerides (MCT) oil. I honestly have no idea of the last ingredient, but I do know most cows eat grass, I have seen it !

So do you need a users manual to drink one of these technically complex brew? Nope. You just drink 2 cups, and ****, you don't feel hungry anymore!

So how did Guru Asprey find out this "out of this world" formula? From Tibet, of course. You know that mystical place where that lovely movie Shangrila was based on? That place where you don't age, and live forever? By a chance discovery after he drank a cup of tea smothered with YAK butter. He didn't feel hunger after that. I bet he didn't age one bit after that either ?

Fast forward from 2009 when Guru Asprey patented the formula, it is now the most popular dieting fad in USA, where a third of the population is obese.

Now a cynical bastard, like my good self, would wonder that he has had more than 6 years since, and yet people are still getting fatter, innit ?

Toph
WA, 1870 posts
1 Feb 2016 2:01PM
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I had a barney with the wife yesterday over a similar thing.

We had a pretty full on year last year. A few over seas holidays (no that's not the norm for us), and lots of socialising. To say we have put on a few well earned kilos is an understatement. Well now she is on some fad diet thing to lose the weight. I was a little interested in it too to be honest, but after I read about it, it became apparent that it was nothing more then starving yourself and what you did eat was very calorie aware. "Oh but there are these supplements to get all you nutrients" she says..

Long story short, she is doing it and I am not. What I'm am doing, is not having that extra beer or a bowl of chips (don't get me wrong, I still had a few over the weekend but because my wife wasn't drinking I didn't feel like more then a couple). As of yesterday she lost 3kg in a week. Im nearly the same. But will she hear otherwise about the diet........

Some people are being taken for a ride. But if its making them feel better within themselves, then who are we to say otherwise


Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
1 Feb 2016 3:34PM
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SMH, supplements, just someone making a buck. Losing weight is not rocket science to say the least.
Burn more calories than you consume, period, end of sentence.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
1 Feb 2016 3:52PM
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Coffee is a pretty capable appetite suppressant right?

Surely any coffee will do the trick? Feel hungry, have an espresso and your problem is solved for a few hours. There is nothing too complicated about that.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
1 Feb 2016 4:11PM
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Get these at our discount warehouse "Costco" I find it gives even better and more sustained energy than coffee, just caffeine with some herbs and amino acids. So much easier and quicker than making coffee and it doesn't make you need to 5hit.

Chris_M
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1 Feb 2016 4:21PM
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Beaglebuddy said..






Get these at our discount warehouse "Costco" I find it gives even better and more sustained energy than coffee, just caffeine with some herbs and amino acids. So much easier and quicker than making coffee and it doesn't make you need to 5hit.


Maybe this is whats making you piss all night long Beagle

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
1 Feb 2016 4:25PM
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I don't think so, I only drink one and not every day.

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
1 Feb 2016 7:18PM
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Tried it and just had open heart bypass surgery. Bugger, what to do with all this butter. (It was always going to catch up with me, I blame my poor choice of parents)

mvdv
NSW, 74 posts
1 Feb 2016 8:31PM
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Rockmagnet, were you in ketosis (i.e. doing full keto diet) or just doing the bulletproof coffee and eating normally?

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
1 Feb 2016 8:55PM
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Rockmagnet, were you in ketosis (i.e. doing full keto diet) or just doing the bulletproof coffee and eating normally?


For as long as I could, about a month and then I just drank the coffee. ( Bulletproof was not the cause of my illness as this accumulates over a lifetime. just having a bit of fun}

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
1 Feb 2016 6:57PM
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Jupiter you superstar I haven't head that terminology/saying/slang for years.

yet people are still getting fatter, innit ?

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
1 Feb 2016 7:40PM
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the explorer ranulph fiennes did all the science i need on diets . he man hauled a 250kg sled across antarctica on the equivalent of a big mac and fries per day. yet people have that as a lunch snack. the s**t goes in ,doesnt get burned , so it stays in

Adriano
11206 posts
2 Feb 2016 4:49AM
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The Greeks and Italians have known this for decades. They do it as a habit - missing breakfast for instance.

I wouldn't trust anyone who is referred to as a "...... guru" - especially if they come from America.


Dear Beagle. Your body produces energy from whole foods, exercise and rest - not from **** in a bottle purchased from a dodgy warehouse supermarket. If you need an energy supplement and you're not in a marathon or riding the Tour de France, that means your metabolism is dysfunctional, you're probably not getting the right amount of sleep, you're eating poorly or drinking too much. Or all of the above.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
2 Feb 2016 1:16PM
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My cynical side says these people will have their 'diet coffees' with a litre of frothed milk, vanilla, four spoons of sugar, and chocolate sprinkles.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
2 Feb 2016 10:24AM
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Real men drink espresso

Adriano
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2 Feb 2016 10:51AM
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Real men drink espresso



Nice to agree on something other than how much we love windsurfing!

If I could add, if you want to get real about coffee full stop, you drink espresso.

Oh and stop drinking lattes after lunch. It's disgusting. Italians feel your shame.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
2 Feb 2016 10:57AM
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Coffee always makes me lose weight. About 10 mins after finishing one I drop some weight off.

Adriano
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2 Feb 2016 11:01AM
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Jupiter
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2 Feb 2016 12:36PM
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Adriano said..
The Greeks and Italians have known this for decades. They do it as a habit - missing breakfast for instance.

I wouldn't trust anyone who is referred to as a "...... guru" - especially if they come from America.


Dear Beagle. Your body produces energy from whole foods, exercise and rest - not from **** in a bottle purchased from a dodgy warehouse supermarket. If you need an energy supplement and you're not in a marathon or riding the Tour de France, that means your metabolism is dysfunctional, you're probably not getting the right amount of sleep, you're eating poorly or drinking too much. Or all of the above.


Your are very correct in what you said, Adriano.

Thanks to the easily available and relatively cheap foods we are blessed with, we seem to believe that if we missed a meal, or if we don't consume a large meal fit for 2-3 people, we might die! The trouble is that we eat the wrong kind of foods. Foods that are highly processed resulting in stripping much of the goodness out of them.

Take bread for example. TV adverts had us believe that the whiter it is, the better it taste. Well, it is nothing but a lump of starch. To spruik up the benefits of such "whiter than white" modern food, the manufacturer then add vitamins and fibres back in! So they took the goodness out of it, and then "artificially" added some back in. That is logic for sure?

Personally, I don't believe in supplements such as Vitamins that span right across the entire alphabets. People falsely believe that it is fine to eat junk foods, as long as you make up the deficits with supplements. I am not a nutritionists nor a doctor. However, I believe the vitamins manufactured in factories are not the same as the natural vitamins within the foods you eat. May be there are something else within the natural foods that either we are not aware of, or these "extras" goodness help our body to absorb the nutrients in the foods.

Not wanting to sound sexist, I believe females fall for such crap like the "bulletproof Coffee". They want quick results for lesser efforts to rid of the extra weight put on after a holiday, or unrestrained Christmas feasting. Of course, if some guru had an "out of body" experience in some remote and mythical place like Tibet, then even his coffee can strip Kgs off you. Mind you, there aren't too many fat amigos there...because they eat less and work more!.

Like EvilPanda said on this thread earlier that "...diet coffees' with a litre of frothed milk, vanilla, four spoons of sugar, and chocolate sprinkles.", dieting "super food" give them the excuses to have more of it, in some other forms.

I remember an advert on margarine. It spruiked the fact that it has low saturated fat, high in antioxidants and other craps I never knew existed. Then it said :"...because it is low in saturated fat, you can eat more !" There you go. It does sum it all.

JulianRoss
WA, 544 posts
2 Feb 2016 2:14PM
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evlPanda said..
My cynical side says these people will have their 'diet coffees' with a litre of frothed milk, vanilla, four spoons of sugar, and chocolate sprinkles.


Don't knock the chocolate sprinkles Mr Panda, I don't care how evil you may be, just don't knock the chocolate sprinkles......

dmitri
VIC, 1040 posts
2 Feb 2016 5:36PM
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AUS1111 said..
Real men drink double espresso


fixed

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
2 Feb 2016 3:25PM
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^^ Yes you are right!

Adriano
11206 posts
2 Feb 2016 4:11PM
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With grappa and two sugars!

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
2 Feb 2016 4:14PM
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^^^^ coretto^^^^

Beaglebuddy
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2 Feb 2016 4:16PM
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Adriano said..

Dear Beagle. Your body produces energy from whole foods, exercise and rest - not from **** in a bottle purchased from a dodgy warehouse supermarket. If you need an energy supplement and you're not in a marathon or riding the Tour de France, that means your metabolism is dysfunctional, you're probably not getting the right amount of sleep, you're eating poorly or drinking too much. Or all of the above.


Well if you're going to try to slag me off I'll have to respond.
It's just caffeine, some herbs and amino acids. Are you saying anyone who drinks coffee or tea has something wrong with them? The majority of the world needs some caffeine in the morning to get on with the day and probably half of them need another cup in the afternoon when the inevitable lag hits after lunch.
Myself I have a cup of matcha green tea in the morning and later if I'm driving or working hard or getting myself up to exercise I might have one of the energy shots mostly because it's more convenient than brewing coffee. I won't use one after about 3PM. I suppose there may be some flavenoids or some such thing in coffee that is healthy but most everyone is drinking it for the caffeine only.
My drinking is by no means excessive, my diet is absurdly healthy, my blood chemistry is excellent, I am in excellent physical condition despite having Hashimoto's disease and leukopenia. You are correct however that I don't get proper sleep, mostly due to a torn hip labrum on one side and a dodgy shoulder on the other side and when I sleep on me back I start snoring and wake myself up so it's toss and turn all night
This has been my breakfast/lunch for the last 10 years.



Adriano
11206 posts
2 Feb 2016 4:48PM
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No, no and no.

Sorry to hear about your conditions, but I really wasn't slagging you off at all. Sorry if you thought so.

Coffee is awesome in the right amount, at the right time and for the right reason. You should never have to 'resort' to coffee or energy supps to function. I grew up drinking strong espresso coffee from an early age - wogs you see.

It's not the coffee that's the problem, it's the crap supplements made in a lab from hell knows what and sold through a dodgy international corporation that do nothing but give the ordinary person an excuse not to eat, exercise and sleep properly - that I was referring to. Complex carbohydrates, whole proteins including fatty fish, water, fibre, EFA's, fruit and veggies (that's mainly the minerals & vitamins bit) is all the nutrition a body needs. Throw in some nuts, berries and legumes daily and you're practically on fire.

Maybe if you're short on time you could make an organic frozen berry, whole milk, natural yoghurt, chia seed, linsed oil, cinnamon and macca powder smoothie. That's killer and takes me all of one minute. Has almost everything your body needs, including replenishing your liver glycogen levels in the morning - which is crucial to brain activity and energy levels. You could stick it in a shake container and drink while you drive. Awesome after a workout too. Save the green tea for after dinner and mid afternoon. Also dark low sugar chocolate awesome mid afternoon for a pep.

Peace.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
2 Feb 2016 5:22PM
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In the picture you see my shake which I have for breakfast/lunch, the ingredients are;
Raw spinach and kale
Carrots
Ginger
Strawberries
Blueberries
Cranberries
Bananas
Sometimes mango and pomegranate
Flax seeds
Flax oil
Uncooked oatmeal
Cooked Quinoa/amaranth which I also have for dinner
Chia seeds
Protein powder
Tap water
Roughly 1/3 each carb/fat/protein

Adriano
11206 posts
2 Feb 2016 5:33PM
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Sweet. Just lay off the supps and only use rice or pea protein powder!

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
2 Feb 2016 8:40PM
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In the picture you see my shake which I have for breakfast/lunch, the ingredients are;
Raw spinach and kale
Carrots
Ginger
Strawberries
Blueberries
Cranberries
Bananas
Sometimes mango and pomegranate
Flax seeds
Flax oil
Uncooked oatmeal
Cooked Quinoa/amaranth which I also have for dinner
Chia seeds
Protein powder
Tap water
Roughly 1/3 each carb/fat/protein



Flax !!! I think we used to make army clothes out of that for world war 11 ?????

Adriano
11206 posts
2 Feb 2016 5:51PM
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World War 11. Cripes.

Flax seed. Linseed. Same thing. Strong fibre in the leaf. Seeds full of omega-3 FA. No EFA's you get sick eventually.

Also, the media talks about super foods. No such thing. The humble kiwi fruit is a powerhouse of nutrients including up to four times as much ascorbic acid as an orange. Kale I've gone off except for in salads or stews. It's just too disgusting juiced.

FormulaNova
WA, 15084 posts
2 Feb 2016 6:34PM
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Beaglebuddy said..

This has been my breakfast/lunch for the last 10 years.





I see the dog is not even interested in your 'lunch'. I think that says a lot!


Edit: I think that might be because your dog thinks he recognises it



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