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Breaking the chains of the corporate life

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Created by flanagaj > 9 months ago, 2 Dec 2015
flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
2 Dec 2015 7:04PM
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I spent 17 years working for an investment bank as an IT programmer and in May I managed to negotiate a decent redundancy deal. Trouble is, I have no interest in returning to ANY company as a desk slave. All I want to do is pack up my windsurfing gear and hit the road as a nomad :-)

Trouble is, the wife and daughter won't have the same enthusiasm for my plan as I do.

Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?

jn1
SA, 2688 posts
2 Dec 2015 9:47PM
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I hear you. but what can one do ?

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
2 Dec 2015 9:48PM
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Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?

Firiebob

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
2 Dec 2015 10:08PM
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After 17 years working at an investment bank you should have learnt something about investing for the future. Investing and future are synonymous words.

If you did learn something about investing you should be at least half way to being financially independent.

So, if you started your I.T. career post university at say age 23, you would now be 40.

For a life where when you get up in the morning and know that none of the decisions you make that day are financial, I suggest you have a bit more work to do (say 15 years worth) unless you can pull off a Gates/Jobs/Zuckerberg type coup.

I started in a real estate and investing career at 29 and by age 50 fairly much did not have to work for anybody else any more. Today at 65 I spend about a third of my time on my business affairs, a third on my family and the other third on my yacht. I am not bragging. I am just stating fact.

You can always make more money but you cannot make more time. Time is your only real currency. How you spend it determines the quality of your life.

Above all, do not underestimate the value of those you love and those that love you.

I treated that aspect of my life lightly some years ago and nearly lost the lot.

Hobos are usually very lonely people. Cheers.

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
2 Dec 2015 10:59PM
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Maybe just take 6months or a year off? Or work in a menial job for a while? I dream of packing it in but at the end of the day it is all about balance and its pretty extreme.

Mark _australia
WA, 23538 posts
2 Dec 2015 9:08PM
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After 17yrs as a programmer for a big bank you'd have that thing that gives you 0.001c of each transaction to your account right?

c'mon you all do it...




nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
2 Dec 2015 9:19PM
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Mark _australia said..
After 17yrs as a programmer for a big bank you'd have that thing that gives you 0.001c of each transaction to your account right?

c'mon you all do it...






I must admit I've been tempted some times

wildrover
WA, 76 posts
2 Dec 2015 10:22PM
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Pozo Izquirdo i say . family will like G.C and you'll like it more . 4 hours away

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
3 Dec 2015 12:37AM
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Mark _australia said..
After 17yrs as a programmer for a big bank you'd have that thing that gives you 0.001c of each transaction to your account right?

c'mon you all do it...






There was a guy who did that, made mega millions but got caught.

Honesty is the best policy.

Do no crime, do no time!!

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
3 Dec 2015 12:39AM
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wildrover said..
Pozo Izquirdo i say . family will like G.C and you'll like it more . 4 hours away



Can you expand on that and what is G.C

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
3 Dec 2015 12:40AM
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nebbian said..


Mark _australia said..
After 17yrs as a programmer for a big bank you'd have that thing that gives you 0.001c of each transaction to your account right?

c'mon you all do it...







I must admit I've been tempted some times



You are just too straight nebbs and that is the way we like you.

Not a lot of money needed to buy a good yacht these days. Hold onto the dream.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
3 Dec 2015 5:51AM
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I've done it a few times. Retired from I.T. at 28 and never went back, hated it. Did a lot of labouring & bartending type stuff while drifting around.

Ended up learning piping drafting, getting back in the office on big bucks for an oil company.

Quit and took the wife on a 2 year world honeymoon when we married. Returned, made the jump into mining drafting. Been at that for the last 5 years.

Quit as the work dried up, and now I'm reading water meters. No boss, start & finish when I like, walk around different neighborhoods every day checking out the lives of the people I pass. Lots of country and beach routes - yesterday at one point in the morning I was in deep grass surrounded by horses, and in the avo next to the beach when a pair of F18's flew over. Zero stress and I've lost 10kgs and 3 belt holes so far. I've shifted to 4 x 9.5 or 10 hr days, so I have a 3 day weekend every day.

I'm considering Ubering on a saturday night for some extra cash too.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
3 Dec 2015 7:30AM
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I fully respect the decision those make to walk away from the rat-race, but you don't have to become a hobo or move between jobs to find some peace. Find a nice country/coastal town that has good infrastructure and industry. There should be plenty of job opportunities for you with a less-stressful lifestyle.

My situation was ideal until recently - good mix of work (self-employed & shift work on wharf), time with family and recreation time on the water. Due to an influx of too much work atm I'm too busy to enjoy any rec time and have taken myself off the wharf roster until things calm down, but already putting things in place for a more relaxing 2016.

My suggestion - don't just drop the ball and walk away - that's a bit like binge dieting and as you have mentioned, might be too dramatic for your family. Move to a more relaxing career/lifestyle combination.

Adriano
11206 posts
3 Dec 2015 5:18AM
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I started my own business 7 years ago after 15 years working for other medium and large firms. I'd never go back.

I was never the type to aspire to promotion or curry favour with my employers. I was known as someone who thought differently and was highly respected for that by my peers and employers. I did get paid well above the average salary in each company because my employers valued my strategic thinking and ability to work with a large range of professionals like structural engineers, builders and relate well to clients.

All these things help you succeed if you choose to set up shop yourself.

Flanagaj I'm sure your experience will allow you to succeed in the modern IT world if that's what you are still interested in. There are so many pop-ups started from people like yourself. Ally yourself with young entrepreneurs and provide them with technical support perhaps.

aquablue
14 posts
3 Dec 2015 5:51AM
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It's a sensational way to live and far from lonely.

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2015 8:15AM
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I always wanted to work for a IB, but ended up in Audit in a Big 4.

I learnt a lot but it was the worst 4.5 years of my life.

The culture in these firms are disgusting.... I landed a Management Accounting/ Business Development role on the Sunshine coast, I work normal hours and don't take work home.



I kite 4 times a week. Misses permitting...

I know the money is better in the city, but I couldn't give a rats.

dmitri
VIC, 1040 posts
3 Dec 2015 9:20AM
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kiteboy dave said..
I've done it a few times. Retired from I.T. at 28 and never went back, hated it. Did a lot of labouring & bartending type stuff while drifting around.

Ended up learning piping drafting, getting back in the office on big bucks for an oil company.

Quit and took the wife on a 2 year world honeymoon when we married. Returned, made the jump into mining drafting. Been at that for the last 5 years.

Quit as the work dried up, and now I'm reading water meters. No boss, start & finish when I like, walk around different neighborhoods every day checking out the lives of the people I pass. Lots of country and beach routes - yesterday at one point in the morning I was in deep grass surrounded by horses, and in the avo next to the beach when a pair of F18's flew over. Zero stress and I've lost 10kgs and 3 belt holes so far. I've shifted to 4 x 9.5 or 10 hr days, so I have a 3 day weekend every day.

I'm considering Ubering on a saturday night for some extra cash too.


..says the one who fueled 5 pages of TPP thread.. do I need more proof of lefty hypocrisy ?

Carantoc
WA, 7203 posts
3 Dec 2015 7:43AM
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Why not start printing up some awesome tea towels and selling them on Seabreeze.com.au classifieds ?

Seems like there might be a market for them ??

echunda
VIC, 765 posts
3 Dec 2015 11:11AM
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Sailhack said..
I fully respect the decision those make to walk away from the rat-race, but you don't have to become a hobo or move between jobs to find some peace. Find a nice country/coastal town that has good infrastructure and industry. There should be plenty of job opportunities for you with a less-stressful lifestyle.



That's a little dreamy.

Small country towns with decent infrastructure don't have many jobs because they're already taken.

Even when the jobs are available, the salary package is greatly reduced compared to the same role available within major cities. Unless you already have substantial capital available and / or willing to take a financial hit, sea change / tree change is a just a dream.


Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
3 Dec 2015 1:38PM
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Just do short term contracts you should be able to get some at good rates with your experience and then your only working when you need/want to

loftywinds2
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3 Dec 2015 12:16PM
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flanagaj said..
I spent 17 years working for an investment bank as an IT programmer and in May I managed to negotiate a decent redundancy deal. Trouble is, I have no interest in returning to ANY company as a desk slave. All I want to do is pack up my windsurfing gear and hit the road as a nomad :-)

Trouble is, the wife and daughter won't have the same enthusiasm for my plan as I do.

Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?



Judging by the full amount of GREEN arrows you have, I would say this is every man's dream - post 40s or so.

To answer you...

YES!! SH_T YEAH!!!

loftywinds2
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3 Dec 2015 12:18PM
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cisco said..

You can always make more money but you cannot make more time. Time is your only real currency. How you spend it determines the quality of your life.

Above all, do not underestimate the value of those you love and those that love you.




Best advice I've read all year!

firiebob
WA, 3179 posts
3 Dec 2015 1:16PM
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loftywinds2 said..

cisco said..

You can always make more money but you cannot make more time. Time is your only real currency. How you spend it determines the quality of your life.

Above all, do not underestimate the value of those you love and those that love you.





Best advice I've read all year!


+1

firiebob
WA, 3179 posts
3 Dec 2015 1:33PM
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sausage said..
Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?

Firiebob


Funny bugger Snags, I'm a 5 star hobbo
I was in a different situation to Flanagaj, after being in a job for 28 years that I used to love, I started to absolutely hate it. So got the caravan, wife and I pulled the pin and F'd off. Been on road 14 months now and feel we could go on for years, not everyone's cup of tea but we are so happy and loving it




ka43
NSW, 3099 posts
3 Dec 2015 6:14PM
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Bob, your a bastard!!!
Livin' the dream.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
3 Dec 2015 6:26PM
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cisco said..

You can always make more money but you cannot make more time. Time is your only real currency. How you spend it determines the quality of your life.

Above all, do not underestimate the value of those you love and those that love you.

I treated that aspect of my life lightly some years ago and nearly lost the lot.


Nice one Cisco.

Wise words mate, wise words indeed...

sn
WA, 2775 posts
3 Dec 2015 4:50PM
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kiteboy dave said..


so I have a 3 day weekend every day.


sounds awesomely busy to me!


stephen

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
3 Dec 2015 5:04PM
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ka43 said..
Bob, your a bastard!!!
Livin' the dream.



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firiebob said..

sausage said..
Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?

Firiebob



Funny bugger Snags, I'm a 5 star hobbo
I was in a different situation to Flanagaj, after being in a job for 28 years that I used to love, I started to absolutely hate it. So got the caravan, wife and I pulled the pin and F'd off. Been on road 14 months now and feel we could go on for years, not everyone's cup of tea but we are so happy and loving it






Love it! I could so easily blend into that existence. There is one small problem with that picture. Where's the mountain bike?

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
3 Dec 2015 10:23PM
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echunda said...
Sailhack said..
I fully respect the decision those make to walk away from the rat-race, but you don't have to become a hobo or move between jobs to find some peace. Find a nice country/coastal town that has good infrastructure and industry. There should be plenty of job opportunities for you with a less-stressful lifestyle.



That's a little dreamy.

Small country towns with decent infrastructure don't have many jobs because they're already taken.

Even when the jobs are available, the salary package is greatly reduced compared to the same role available within major cities. Unless you already have substantial capital available and / or willing to take a financial hit, sea change / tree change is a just a dream.





I'm living that dream. Most people don't understand the ratio of salary vs living costs. You can work a high-paid job in the city to cover excessive rents and interest on mortgages/loans...or earn half the amount in the country with less than half the expense.

I've never really understood the whole "hard to find a job" complaint. I was unemployed the minute I finished my apprenticeship at the age of 18 and immediately approached a previous employer looking for work as a subby. 2 years later I was employing 4 people.

In the past 24 years I've only ever been 'employed' for less than 3 years - the other 21 years I've made my own way through self-employment (mixed with some shift work in the past few years). Small country towns are normally screaming for people with good work ethic and family values to start up new service businesses.

firiebob
WA, 3179 posts
3 Dec 2015 7:36PM
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flanagaj said..

ka43 said..
Bob, your a bastard!!!
Livin' the dream.





firiebob said..


sausage said..
Anyone else, packed in the corporate sh!t for something different or become a hobo?

Firiebob




Funny bugger Snags, I'm a 5 star hobbo
I was in a different situation to Flanagaj, after being in a job for 28 years that I used to love, I started to absolutely hate it. So got the caravan, wife and I pulled the pin and F'd off. Been on road 14 months now and feel we could go on for years, not everyone's cup of tea but we are so happy and loving it






Love it! I could so easily blend into that existence. There is one small problem with that picture. Where's the mountain bike?


Under the cover in front of the van

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
3 Dec 2015 8:05PM
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kiteboy dave said...
I've done it a few times. Retired from I.T. at 28 and never went back, hated it. Did a lot of labouring & bartending type stuff while drifting around.

Ended up learning piping drafting, getting back in the office on big bucks for an oil company.

Quit and took the wife on a 2 year world honeymoon when we married. Returned, made the jump into mining drafting. Been at that for the last 5 years.

Quit as the work dried up, and now I'm reading water meters. No boss, start & finish when I like, walk around different neighborhoods every day checking out the lives of the people I pass. Lots of country and beach routes - yesterday at one point in the morning I was in deep grass surrounded by horses, and in the avo next to the beach when a pair of F18's flew over. Zero stress and I've lost 10kgs and 3 belt holes so far. I've shifted to 4 x 9.5 or 10 hr days, so I have a 3 day weekend every day.

I'm considering Ubering on a saturday night for some extra cash too.




As long as your happy reading water meters and ubering who are we to judge...



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