Amphibian light Aircraft

Did you know that Australia has a few private use light aircraft manufacturers (suitable for VH registration and PPL) and that there are many around the world that either modify or make PPL required and "VH" register-able "KITS" specifically for amphibian landing/takeoff private aircraft.
More to the point, if you look at the price of Cessna and Piper e.t.c. they are generally around 300K USD to 500K USD but you can get pretty good kits in Australia and many other countries that do much the same at between 100K and 200K including some amphibian !

Usual price is "around" give or take 100K AUD (80k - 130k AUD) for a kit or factory built light aircraft (land rolling).

One of the greatest recent features since 2013 is manufacture of cheap kits for short take-off landing (STOL) light aircraft that can land and take-off over "no more than 60 meters", a feature worthy of building into amphibians, but with PPL and VH registration you can keep it in a hangar on a small block out of town (obstacles permitting).

Did you know?! You do not need a PPL or RPL(recreational - one of the most useless levels of license possible) license to fly any light aircraft outside controlled air space up to 8000 feet altitude (e.g. official Aerodromes), its draw-back is major airports is 50Km radius and regional are around 25Km radius and there are military bases to not be within particular distance of!
note: That is why in the country areas you sometimes see low flying "full size" light aircraft with no registration markers !

About Australian light aircraft use (PDF document).
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf

Highlighted STOL kit aircraft

Professional manufactured STOL example


Kit amphibian aircraft

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DavidJohn said..

Rates a like".

^^ Bloody hell... speechless!

What i'm telling you "is", i've found a huge quantity of "dirt" about Australia and light aircraft, in essence "experimental license light aircraft" kill less than cars but if you knew the statistics and how the stats changed and operate you would fly a 30 year old aircraft in some terms of its risk rather than dirive a road vehicle !

More than that, "national businesses and economics" is crippled by not understanding and not having the comprehension that such aircraft are a huge help at "productivity" by their flexibility of time and use !

However, if any country had a reason for average people to use and own and fly light aircraft personally , Australia may be the list top by environment and isolation distances, AND without excuse of not having a light aircraft industry for average people embedded in its culture as norm (e.g. there is a crime being committed why is this not occurring?!).

At present people seem to have the misconception that A.K.A. "aircraft" used for business or utility purpose belongs to mining companies that fly in food , workers orders and employees e.t.c. BUT the same can be said of personal life of the middle class individuals now from these proven new kit light aircraft 2's and 4's AND "AMPHIBIAN" ALSO !
The seaplane kit (in the video sown in the first post) is touted as around 70K AUD but if you are "married" and have a property "two" PPL's + STOL and night flying accreditation , hangar and the plane and rego-extra-electronic equipment for VH will be just under 150K AUD at best or just under 190K normal with a 4 seat.
Plenty around the 150K AUD final if you own a property with longer than 150 meters clear for a runway (e.g. minimum 5 acres by shape).
Kit Seaplanes have the problem that they need to take off and land on land carefully much longer e.g. 250 meters if they have such an undercarriage for land so they take more like a minimum of 10 acres by shape (aberration).
note: "takeoff distance" is governed by propeller type and horsepower chosen for the kit , not a mere specification.

This following PDF document may have better been labelled ....
"A comprehensive quick FAQ for all you need to know (pros and cons) about building and flying light aircraft as the average wage earner in Australia"
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf

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howe said..
You could do this for a very low cost.

I only recently found how much change to micro and ultralight law there was over the past 30 years, Ultra is up to 600Kg in Australia and micro is down near 300Kg somewhere.
There are also "microlight" amphibian!
www.airsports.com.au/index.php/flying-lessons
and a term "Nanolight".


windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf

9 mins. im out. does that spin. Holy crxp

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myusernam said..
why not just get a paraglider with one of those backpack engines?

spins me out when i see these guys. they dont even worry about making sure the fuel tank is full

I'd worry at that altitude that i wasn't hit by an aircraft , get some orange and yellow clothes and maybe a front and rear strobe light !!!

Did you know that in Australia , above 8500 feet is controlled air space (VH registered only) , also within 25 Km of regional airport or 50 Km of major airport !!!

Links and info such as that are contained in the PDF document i put in this thread about cheap developed experimental kit planes .
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf

What do you do to not get involved in a collision ?!?

Australian air space classifications - A,B,C,D,E,F,G
www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/12-058BKT_Guide-to-our-operations_WEB.pdf

I'm starting to think that nicephoto has an axe to grind (or perhaps a plane to sell)...

I thought it was 10000 but yeah no matter what you get you can't go above that in Aus. Not that that matters. those fan man's you would need to pick yr weather but would be cool doing a multi day trip with a few blokes up north. Take a travel rod. Stay in outback pubs. Spare t shirt and boardies. I was thinking Cairns across Tablelands to Karumba, burketown , lawn hill NP etc You could land on beaches and fish rivers. Pull up at Roadhouses for lunch? Ride the morning glory cloud thing. I think conditions need to be good tho. I like gyros also - they look cool. Bit safer too I think. Something to take up when you're old and have led a full life and kids are grown so it doesn't matter so much if you have a wipeout

Does it really matter? Higher than u ever need to go in a light aircraft anyway

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Dawn Patrol said..

nicephotog said..

Did you know that in Australia , above 8500 feet is controlled air space (VH registered only) , also within 25 Km of regional airport or 50 Km of major airport !!!

Australian air space classifications - A,B,C,D,E,F,G
www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/12-058BKT_Guide-to-our-operations_WEB.pdf

Huh? The link you posted explains all about airspace and shows that none of those things are correct?

EXCUSE ME "DAWN PATROL" !!! WHAT YOU STATED IN YOUR POST IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE !!!!!!!!!!!! (You should remove your post and apologise)
Class "G" airspace is uncontrolled and up to 8500 feet and not near regional or Major airports !!!
Anything above 8500 ft is controlled , However, anything not class G airspace is controlled airspace International or otherwise !!!
READ PAGES 10 and 11
www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/12-058BKT_Guide-to-our-operations_WEB.pdf

Before you shout down anyone, you might want to be a little more sure yourself otherwise you just look like an ignorant fool.

The height of class G airspace can be as high as 18,000 feet. Usually above class G is class E airspace. Class E airspace for your little VFR lightly is NOT controlled nor do you need a clearance to enter. IFR aircraft DO need a clearance to enter class E and are given traffic on other IFR and known VFR aircraft, but is still not considered controlled airspace. Above that you have A, and C and D controlled airspace are usually associated with controlled aerodromes.

You are right mate, I did not read your website link. I didnt need to. But I did go back and read the link to the airsevices website. That is a very generic picture to explain airspace steps. But they are not set in stone like that.

Here is a screen shot of an actual map with the airspace 75 Nm south of Karratha. You will be able to see that G is up to 18,000' with E being from 18'000 to the 24,500 feet.

I don't k ow what you are trying to peddle here, but factual information is not it.

QUOTE "Toph" ..."Here is a screen shot of an actual map with the airspace 75 Nm south of Karratha. You will be able to see that G is up to 18,000' with E being from 18'000 to the 24,500 feet.
I don't k ow what you are trying to peddle here, but factual information is not it."...

Class G airspace for the purpose of those wishing to understand airspace at this time may as well be up to 8500 ft with particular considerations as explained by the 2017 Air Services Australia Diagram !!! It does not matter for people learning of an issue a flying FK what complicates what class G air space may ever be so "Toph" stop being a rude SB and STFU !!!
As for ..."a very generic picture of air space"... , those whom do not know of and do not have understanding the value of a PPL and light aircraft to manage business or life-style need not care much beyond the Air services Australia diagram !

Second and more importantly , DO NOT CALL ME A PEDDLER i'm not here to sell it just alike anyone else talks about land yachts , SUPs e.t.c. their brand name and price to help understand the significance of a product by parity and feature, whom mentions a price.


QUOTE "Dawn Patrol" ..."If you read your Airservices pdf"...
The Air services document states :
Up to 18,000 feet is controlled air space surrounding Major airports for around up to 90Km.

I cannot find an explanation for your rubbish and criticism and false founded rebukes perhaps a forum Administrator can look over your post to help you gain some coherence of whether you have any cause to distract , hinder and derogate the thread (or maybe the police)!

It is perfectly simple ,
Controlled air space is where a radar operator and air traffic controller is responsible for charting courses "for" flights (VH registered with their own unique bit coded transponder) of which above 8500 feet are regional and International high speed , high powered aircraft "cruising" at anything from 400Kmh to 800 Kmh .
If something enters that air space , unless it is under total control of the air traffic controllers then these passenger and freight aircraft are in massive danger !!!!
Light aircraft are too slow and not maneuverable at light aircraft cruise speed , so CANNOT be above 8500 feet without VH registration transponder and PPL holder and competent pilot .PERIOD.
Basic PPL is VFR (Visual Flying Rules first licensed standard PPL level) , add on to PPL is a second accreditation called IFR Instrument Flying Rules (e.g. combination of auto-piloting and navigator assisted in any type of aircraft - various strategies but using the instruments and meteorology info to guide the aircraft without visual ability!), IFR is usually in combination with VNF Visual Night Flying accreditation!

Uncontrolled air space is where para-gliders , ultralights , unregistered light aircraft , powered parachute flyers., microlight e.t.c can fly because Uncontrolled air space is below (segregated beside) the air space used , needed and "legislatively segregated" for the dangers of high speed high powered aircraft flight to prevent collision from destructive or impossible avoidance maneuver speed (light aircraft must first slow down well below cruise speed to turn see look up: VNE - Never Exceed speed) AND requires PPL and VH registration to be present in it (controlled air space) (or special registered foreign aircraft e.g. jet Airliner) !

Like i said ..."It is perfectly simple"... see if you can pick the point in the following 1 hour and 20 minute documentary video !

Uncontrolled air space below 8500 feet is for para-gliders , ultralights , unregistered light aircraft , powered parachute flyers., microlight e.t.c :

1. Preventing massive disaster by mismatched "pilot"(of whatever you're using) (experience and training) and machine and operational environment factors that cause collision (one main point - Light aircraft are too slow and too non maneuverable - ...let alone emergency!...forget it!)!

2. Allows humans to remain in an air pressure atmosphere strength sufficient to supply oxygen to the brain and tissue of slightly medically unfit people using a non pressurized aircraft (see APU Air Pressure Unit - blower)!

3. Prevent an atmospheric problem of aircraft flight physics known as "coffin corner" whereby either or both the propeller or wings cannot sustain lift because there is not enough atmosphere air pressure , and that causes a stall condition of the aircraft simply plain falling which can be done suddenly meteorologic-ally , "not merely by altitude itself alone" !

(A fourth more obscure reason is the "weather" information more closely matches weather governed by PBL "Planetry Boudary Layer" and local conditions , of that it is obtainable from standard ground weather station information unlike higher altitude weather that requires use of rocket sonde and balloon sonde equipment to collect for airliners 24/7 such as jet stream location of which there are less violent jet stream below 8500 ! )

These three are the main ones !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you do not need a PPL to fly in controlled airspace or at a controlled aerodrome, you can do that with an RPL.
www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/getting-your-recreational-pilot-licence-rpl

Maybe Laurie can get a new web site to discuss air sports and the apparent debacle that is the current level of knowledge amongst water sports enthusiasts surrounding what you can and can't do at various heights above sea level.

PPL is not restricted to piston engine single.
You can fly a Boeing 747 with a PPL if you had a 747 endorsement, only for private/non commercial flights though.
You couldn't be paid to fly it and you would not be able to charge your passengers though they could contribute to cost sharing.