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There are currently no apps in existence that allow users to photograph what they eat with minimal data entry to have the app. cross reference the nutrients in their diet against recommended daily intakes to highlight potential deficiencies and offer dietary solutions.
Whilst all people absorb and process nutrients differently it remains true that eating the most nutrient dense foods reduces opportunities for excess free radicals to cause oxidative stress throughout the body, thus reducing the risk of inflammation, weight gain, cancer and an array of auto-immune diseases.
And while many nutrients can be synthesised from other nutrients, it's ideal to consume the full compliment through diet.
It's currently not realistic to monitor ones intake of all macronutrients, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, lipids, polyphenols and prebiotics. It's far too time consuming and boring, as demonstrated by the below image is a simplified evaluation of the foods I ate this week which shows only a small fraction of what a complete nutrient profile should look like.
An app. would be limited in that the nutritional density of foods varies greatly although foods from a wild or near wild environment consistently measure as more nutritious. An app. would also be limited in that it couldn't measure an individuals nutrient absorption although it could highlight foods that aid and/or hinder the absorption of others.
A good quality version of this app. would cost over one million to develop and would need to be free as to benefit the poorer members of society who tend to be disproportionately malnourished as nutrient sparse foods are cheaper. Hopefully a sensible government health department or a private enterprise will adopt the concept.
In the meantime, if anyone is wanting to know what some of the most nutritient dense foods are, below is a list of my favourites.
Maybe they need an app that shows people how to post on forums without lots of quote boxes.
You are very healthy - corky turds for sure.Eating weed isn't too bad , but I draw the line at ladybug & caterpillar - their internal fluid is just to rancid 
The chart is helpful but excludes a large number of foods and doesn't seem to factor in if or how the ingredients are prepared. And in the end, I'm sure you'll find that the root cause of the dietary issues plaguing this country is, quite simply, laziness.
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The chart is helpful but excludes a large number of foods and doesn't seem to factor in if or how the ingredients are prepared. And in the end, I'm sure you'll find that the root cause of the dietary issues plaguing this country is, quite simply, laziness.
The chart is mostly useless, it's just what I eat. Most people have no idea how to formulate an anti-inflammatory diet or how to increase neuro transmitter precursor intake or decrease excitory neurotransmitters or pair foods to optimise absorption but an app. could do all that and so much more, at the very least it might help a few people to understand the problem with processed sugar. It'll get ignored as much as smoking advice but it still needs to exist.
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The chart is helpful but excludes a large number of foods and doesn't seem to factor in if or how the ingredients are prepared. And in the end, I'm sure you'll find that the root cause of the dietary issues plaguing this country is, quite simply, laziness.
The chart is mostly useless, it's just what I eat. Most people have no idea how to formulate an anti-inflammatory diet or how to increase neuro transmitter precursor intake or decrease excitory neurotransmitters or pair foods to optimise absorption but an app. could do all that and so much more, at the very least it might help a few people to understand the problem with processed sugar. It'll get ignored as much as smoking advice but it still needs to exist.
Why are you wasting your time telling us about it and not creating this app?
I'm telling as many people as I can.
I wasn't able to get a government grant, and Minderoo Foundation said it falls outside of their domain, and all the possible collaborators Minderoo suggested were chock full of bumbling incompetence.
I have neither the means nor the money to see it to fruition but if I bang on about it everywhere I go, eventually someone will facilitate it or steal the idea. Either way it needs to exist, it needs to be done incredibly well, and it needs to be free or very close to free.
Have you tried the myscreenname philanthropy trust ?
I heard it is a bitcoin funded bonanza of charity and investment.
Currently keeping over 10,000 Australian builders, plumbers and pool fence inspectors from going under.
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Have you tried the myscreenname philanthropy trust ?
I heard it is a bitcoin funded bonanza of charity and investment.
Currently keeping over 10,000 Australian builders, plumbers and pool fence inspectors from going under.
Crowd funding has been suggested, and it just might come to pass that I meet someone who could successfully orchestrate that.
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There are currently no apps in existence that allow users to photograph what they eat with minimal data entry to have the app. cross reference the nutrients in their diet against recommended daily intakes to highlight potential deficiencies and offer dietary solutions.
Whilst all people absorb and process nutrients differently it remains true that eating the most nutrient dense foods reduces opportunities for excess free radicals to cause oxidative stress throughout the body, thus reducing the risk of inflammation, weight gain, cancer and an array of auto-immune diseases.
And while many nutrients can be synthesised from other nutrients, it's ideal to consume the full compliment through diet.
It's currently not realistic to monitor ones intake of all macronutrients, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, lipids, polyphenols and prebiotics. It's far too time consuming and boring, as demonstrated by the below image is a simplified evaluation of the foods I ate this week which shows only a small fraction of what a complete nutrient profile should look like.
An app. would be limited in that the nutritional density of foods varies greatly although foods from a wild or near wild environment consistently measure as more nutritious. An app. would also be limited in that it couldn't measure an individuals nutrient absorption although it could highlight foods that aid and/or hinder the absorption of others.
A good quality version of this app. would cost over one million to develop and would need to be free as to benefit the poorer members of society who tend to be disproportionately malnourished as nutrient sparse foods are cheaper. Hopefully a sensible government health department or a private enterprise will adopt the concept
In the meantime, if anyone is wanting to know what some of the most nutritient dense foods are, below is a list of my favourites.
Are poorer people really malnourished? I would hazard a guess that they are not malnourished at all and meet their minimum needs easily, and have an excess of lots of things on top.
I don't know if I have seen too many skinny poor people running about lately.
Edit: My apologies, I forgot about meth users. They would surely be malnourished?
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There are currently no apps in existence that allow users to photograph what they eat with minimal data entry to have the app. cross reference the nutrients in their diet against recommended daily intakes to highlight potential deficiencies and offer dietary solutions.
Whilst all people absorb and process nutrients differently it remains true that eating the most nutrient dense foods reduces opportunities for excess free radicals to cause oxidative stress throughout the body, thus reducing the risk of inflammation, weight gain, cancer and an array of auto-immune diseases.
And while many nutrients can be synthesised from other nutrients, it's ideal to consume the full compliment through diet.
It's currently not realistic to monitor ones intake of all macronutrients, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, lipids, polyphenols and prebiotics. It's far too time consuming and boring, as demonstrated by the below image is a simplified evaluation of the foods I ate this week which shows only a small fraction of what a complete nutrient profile should look like.
An app. would be limited in that the nutritional density of foods varies greatly although foods from a wild or near wild environment consistently measure as more nutritious. An app. would also be limited in that it couldn't measure an individuals nutrient absorption although it could highlight foods that aid and/or hinder the absorption of others.
A good quality version of this app. would cost over one million to develop and would need to be free as to benefit the poorer members of society who tend to be disproportionately malnourished as nutrient sparse foods are cheaper. Hopefully a sensible government health department or a private enterprise will adopt the concept
In the meantime, if anyone is wanting to know what some of the most nutritient dense foods are, below is a list of my favourites.
Are poorer people really malnourished? I would hazard a guess that they are not malnourished at all and meet their minimum needs easily, and have an excess of lots of things on top.
I don't know if I have seen too many skinny poor people running about lately.
Edit: My apologies, I forgot about meth users. They would surely be malnourished?
Obesity is defined as a paradoxical state of malnutrition. The nutrient sparsity of cheap foods leads to excessive calorie intake with insufficient micronutrient intake
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Thanks. It's a fun app. and good for people that don't read labels but the app. that needs to exist goes miles beyond the nutritional value on the packets (they don't print the most valuable information) and it needs to have produce recognition so it doesn't rely on barcodes. Think dietitian in your pocket. The app. won't replace dietitians but it will reduce the need and it will serve those that couldn't afford a dietitian in the first place.
Try a site called "cronometer " it gives a very good breakdown of nutrients , vitamins & minerals .
It has had an impact on food in France. So many people us it that companies have had to reduce the amount of sugar,salt additives and things. They think it is the reason companies are taking the nitrate out of mass produced ham.
If a product gets a bad score on Yuka people are less likely to buy it.
At least it explains quickly and clearly why a product is bad. 99.9% of people don't read the labels and don't know what most of the things are anyhow. So it's a good start in educating people and is working.
I have always told my kids to read the ingredients ( if you can even call it that sometimes) if there are more than 5 or 6 or you don't know what most of them are , Don't bloody eat it!
We are not health food freaks but be careful of how much processed food and sugar we eat.
As I commented earlier the problem is in the title and people need a bloody app for everything now. It used to be common knowledge and we were taught it at school. If you look at your graph what's it saying. Eat fresh fruit and veg. Eat some fish and meat. Eat some cereals and grains. It's not complicated.
Yes I understand you are talking about a bit more complicated than that but it would be a good start for most people.
Most informed generation but least educated.
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Obesity is defined as a paradoxical state of malnutrition. The nutrient sparsity of cheap foods leads to excessive calorie intake with insufficient micronutrient intake
Where do you get that info from? Sounds like BS to me I'm sorry.
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Where do you get that info from? Sounds like BS to me I'm sorry.
Maybe that Pete Evans dude ?
I heard anyone who got the jab is now obese and has aids.
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Try a site called "cronometer " it gives a very good breakdown of nutrients , vitamins & minerals .
This is good. Just needs a handful of upgrades, maybe I can give up.
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It has had an impact on food in France. So many people us it that companies have had to reduce the amount of sugar,salt additives and things. They think it is the reason companies are taking the nitrate out of mass produced ham.
If a product gets a bad score on Yuka people are less likely to buy it.
At least it explains quickly and clearly why a product is bad. 99.9% of people don't read the labels and don't know what most of the things are anyhow. So it's a good start in educating people and is working.
I have always told my kids to read the ingredients ( if you can even call it that sometimes) if there are more than 5 or 6 or you don't know what most of them are , Don't bloody eat it!
We are not health food freaks but be careful of how much processed food and sugar we eat.
As I commented earlier the problem is in the title and people need a bloody app for everything now. It used to be common knowledge and we were taught it at school. If you look at your graph what's it saying. Eat fresh fruit and veg. Eat some fish and meat. Eat some cereals and grains. It's not complicated.
Yes I understand you are talking about a bit more complicated than that but it would be a good start for most people.
Most informed generation but least educated.
I like your reply but it's interesting that you touched on .nitrates. nitric acid is essential for metabolic health, although it's not necessarily nitrate deficiency that causes all the problems, the bacteria that converts nitrates is produced in the mouth but a lot of people kill it with mouthwash.
When it comes to cereals and grains, they have a lower nutrient profile than most seeds and all nuts except peanuts and cashews but they're richer in omega 6 which is so abundant in modern food it's the root cause of a string of inflammatory conditions.
They are convinced in France nitrates in processed meats is causing higher rates of stomach cancer. Something about the nitrates being cooked and with proteins in the meats.
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They are convinced in France nitrates in processed meats is causing higher rates of stomach cancer. Something about the nitrates being cooked and with proteins in the meats.
Sorry, failed to mention, yes excess nitrates are linked to cancer.
Like many nutrients, a little is essential, a lot is poison.
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Obesity is defined as a paradoxical state of malnutrition. The nutrient sparsity of cheap foods leads to excessive calorie intake with insufficient micronutrient intake
Where do you get that info from? Sounds like BS to me I'm sorry.
My favourite thing about this comment is that it comes across as stress free.
The healthiest person on the planet with the strongest immune system can still be taken down by chronic stress, it interrupts immune pathways and throws a spanner in the works in more ways than one.
So I wish you a low stress life, a little stress is healthy.
Select to expand quotepsychojoe said..FormulaNova said..psychojoe said..
Obesity is defined as a paradoxical state of malnutrition. The nutrient sparsity of cheap foods leads to excessive calorie intake with insufficient micronutrient intake
Where do you get that info from? Sounds like BS to me I'm sorry.
My favourite thing about this comment is that it comes across as stress free.
The healthiest person on the planet with the strongest immune system can still be taken down by chronic stress, it interrupts immune pathways and throws a spanner in the works in more ways than one.
So I wish you a low stress life, a little stress is healthy.
I suspect that 'stress' itself is something that some people may suffer from due to genetics. I have met some people in my life that seem to get stressed by relatively simple things, and I suspect that they have little control over it. I had one manager that seemed to be bad at handling stress and even had health problems from it.
I have also met some people that seem to take on stress and make it more significant that it could be.
I don't know how you would isolate micronutrient defficiency and even if you could, how could you correctly attribute issues to it?
